Anyone know of an inexpensive K+CAN obd2 diagnostic cable (orK+DCAN) with pins 7 and 8 intact?

T0m $herman said

> On 9/14/2013 8:05 PM, Homer.Simpson wrote:
>> Geoff Welsh said
>>
>>> T0m $herman wrote:
>>>> On 9/7/2013 4:47 PM, Jordan wrote:
>>>>> So I would think almost everyone who owns the 1997 to 2003
>>>>> 5-series BMW would already know about which dual-K KCAN cables
>>>>> work best with INPA, DIS, & EDIABAS.
>>>>
>>>> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what
>>>> this is all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would
>>>> not know how to find and read a dipstick.
>>
>> I know several Bimmer owners who ARE dipsticks. :-)
>>
>>> +1 !
>>>
>>> GW
>>>
>>
> I find Beemer owners to generally be of a better class than Bimmer
> owners.

I could see that. It's harder to appear stuffy and aloof on a Beemer.

(Awaiting the flames this thread will surely create) :-)

On 09/15/2013 09:54 AM, Homer.Simpson wrote:
> T0m $herman said
>
>> On 9/14/2013 8:05 PM, Homer.Simpson wrote:
>>> Geoff Welsh said
>>>
>>>> T0m $herman wrote:
>>>>> On 9/7/2013 4:47 PM, Jordan wrote:
>>>>>> So I would think almost everyone who owns the 1997 to 2003
>>>>>> 5-series BMW would already know about which dual-K KCAN cables
>>>>>> work best with INPA, DIS, & EDIABAS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what
>>>>> this is all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would
>>>>> not know how to find and read a dipstick.
>>>
>>> I know several Bimmer owners who ARE dipsticks. :-)
>>>
>>>> +1 !
>>>>
>>>> GW
>>>>
>>>
>> I find Beemer owners to generally be of a better class than Bimmer
>> owners.
>
> I could see that. It's harder to appear stuffy and aloof on a Beemer.
>
> (Awaiting the flames this thread will surely create) :-)
>

motorcycle people are generally a more aware section of society in
general. there's nothing like mortality awareness to keep your focus on
the stuff that matters.


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On 09/14/2013 01:19 AM, T0m $herman wrote:
> On 9/7/2013 4:47 PM, Jordan wrote:
>> So I would think almost everyone who owns the 1997 to 2003 5-series
>> BMW would already know about which dual-K KCAN cables work best with
>> INPA, DIS, & EDIABAS.
>
> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this
> is all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know
> how to find and read a dipstick.
>

Trick question - you check the oil level through the iDrive screen

nate

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On 9/16/2013 2:51 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 09/14/2013 01:19 AM, T0m $herman wrote:
>> On 9/7/2013 4:47 PM, Jordan wrote:
>>> So I would think almost everyone who owns the 1997 to 2003 5-series
>>> BMW would already know about which dual-K KCAN cables work best with
>>> INPA, DIS, & EDIABAS.
>>
>> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this
>> is all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know
>> how to find and read a dipstick.
>>
>
> Trick question - you check the oil level through the iDrive screen
>
> nate
>

My brother thinks that the oil pressure light tells you when you need
oil. In a way, he's right, I suppose.

On 9/16/2013 7:51 AM, Nate Nagel wrote:
> On 09/14/2013 01:19 AM, T0m $herman wrote:
>> On 9/7/2013 4:47 PM, Jordan wrote:
>>> So I would think almost everyone who owns the 1997 to 2003 5-series
>>> BMW would already know about which dual-K KCAN cables work best with
>>> INPA, DIS, & EDIABAS.
>>
>> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this
>> is all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know
>> how to find and read a dipstick.
>>
>
> Trick question - you check the oil level through the iDrive screen
>
> nate
>
I prefer a dipstick to a sight glass - particularly on a motorcycle
without a center-stand. The dipstick also lets you see the color of the
oil.

Then there is Denise McCluggage, who reported having lots of men look at
her like she was stupid for having chains on the front wheels and
pouring oil in the gas tank - of course she was driving a SAAB 96.

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T0m $herman > wrote:
>On 9/7/2013 4:47 PM, Jordan wrote:
>> So I would think almost everyone who owns the 1997 to 2003 5-series
>> BMW would already know about which dual-K KCAN cables work best with
>> INPA, DIS, & EDIABAS.
>
>I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this
>is all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know
>how to find and read a dipstick.

Sadly, this is generalizable to most car owners in general today.
--scott
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:19:51 -0500, T0m $herman wrote:

> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this is
> all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know how
> to find and read a dipstick.

I would agree but some bimmer owners do their own maintenance.

Maybe not as much as the beamer owners, but they can do dealer diagnostics
at home with INPA and they can code the vehicle in their garage.

Pat wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:19:51 -0500, T0m $herman wrote:
>
>> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this is
>> all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know how
>> to find and read a dipstick.
>
> I would agree but some bimmer owners do their own maintenance.
>
> Maybe not as much as the beamer owners, but they can do dealer diagnostics
> at home with INPA and they can code the vehicle in their garage.
>
Hi,
Some at Bimmer forum will know better for this info.
Yes, my friend has M and he does lot of work himself on it.
2 years ago local dealer sent him to Germany when he ordered
the vehicle.

In article >, Pat > wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:19:51 -0500, T0m $herman wrote:
>
>> I would think 99% of 5-series owners would not have a clue to what this is
>> all about. Heck, I have known some Bimmer owners who would not know how
>> to find and read a dipstick.
>
>I would agree but some bimmer owners do their own maintenance.
>
>Maybe not as much as the beamer owners, but they can do dealer diagnostics
>at home with INPA and they can code the vehicle in their garage.

Codes? I just clean the carb now and then. Who needs codes?
--scott
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On Monday, September 2, 2013 5:46:59 PM UTC-4, Jordan wrote:
> I'm looking for a diagnostic cable for an older BMW E39 of 2002 vintage
>
> without the 20-pin round pacman connector, so I only need the 16-pin
>
> standard obd2 connector.
>
>
>
> Most cable ads don't say if both pin 7 and pin 8 K lines are intact.
>
> Most K+DCAN cables have the 8th pin disconnected (for the newer bimmers).
>
> Only some K+CAN cables have both the 8th and 8th pin k lines connected.
>
>
>
> If you have an older bimmer, do you have a good source for the dual K-
>
> line K+CAN cable that is reliable?

You can always try the Chinese site www.alibaba.com got a cheap code reader for the PC there.