Consideration.... until the cop shows up.

I am often told that I am not a good person because I don't delay the
people behind me to let someone in front of me. An example would be
while waiting at a red signal when someone is pulling out of a nearby
driveway to hold up traffic so they can enter the roadway.

Today I saw something I had not seen before and exposes the true nature
of the people who demand this sort of consideration. I am waiting in a
long queue at red light heading south bound. Up ahead and to my left
there is a business driveway (east side of the street). A black Lincoln
SUV is turning left from the driveway.

There are vehicles passing me on my left in the left turn lane so the
Lincoln driver pulls out blocking the north bound lanes to wait for them
to clear. Once they are past the Lincoln pulls into the left turn lane,
the driver flicks on the right turn signal and starts looking for a
place to jam himself into the queue several vehicles ahead of me.

He is there for awhile when a cop turns left out of the same driveway
and pulls behind the lincoln. Suddenly, Mr. Lincoln driver isn't
interested in going south. He's going to turn left and go east. He pulls
up to the back of the left turn queue and turns left on the green arrow.

It's pretty clear the driver of the lincoln knows exactly how MFFY his
behavior is because he aborts it in the presence of a cop who would be
delayed by it.

Normally these wedging drivers will block the left turn lane until the
southbound green when someone will let them in. This leaves the left
turning drivers to miss the arrow and a number of southbound drivers to
miss the green signal.

A typical instance of this situation at the same intersection can
be seen he http://blip.tv/file/2694154

The really sad thing is that one can go out of that parking lot on to
the e-w road west bound then make a left turn south.

Brent wrote:
> I am often told that I am not a good person because I don't delay the
> people behind me to let someone in front of me. An example would be
> while waiting at a red signal when someone is pulling out of a nearby
> driveway to hold up traffic so they can enter the roadway.
>
> Today I saw something I had not seen before and exposes the true nature
> of the people who demand this sort of consideration. I am waiting in a
> long queue at red light heading south bound. Up ahead and to my left
> there is a business driveway (east side of the street). A black Lincoln
> SUV is turning left from the driveway.
>
> There are vehicles passing me on my left in the left turn lane so the
> Lincoln driver pulls out blocking the north bound lanes to wait for them
> to clear. Once they are past the Lincoln pulls into the left turn lane,
> the driver flicks on the right turn signal and starts looking for a
> place to jam himself into the queue several vehicles ahead of me.
>
> He is there for awhile when a cop turns left out of the same driveway
> and pulls behind the lincoln. Suddenly, Mr. Lincoln driver isn't
> interested in going south. He's going to turn left and go east. He pulls
> up to the back of the left turn queue and turns left on the green arrow.
>
> It's pretty clear the driver of the lincoln knows exactly how MFFY his
> behavior is because he aborts it in the presence of a cop who would be
> delayed by it.
>
> Normally these wedging drivers will block the left turn lane until the
> southbound green when someone will let them in. This leaves the left
> turning drivers to miss the arrow and a number of southbound drivers to
> miss the green signal.
>
> A typical instance of this situation at the same intersection can
> be seen he http://blip.tv/file/2694154
>
> The really sad thing is that one can go out of that parking lot on to
> the e-w road west bound then make a left turn south.
>
>

you think the cop would really have hassled him? He wasn't speeding,
was he?

nate

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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:56:50 -0400, Nate Nagel >
wrote:

>
>you think the cop would really have hassled him? He wasn't speeding,
>was he?

He wasn't speeding, but he was impeding traffic. That traffic being
the cop...

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On 2009-10-08, Nate Nagel > wrote:
> Brent wrote:
>> I am often told that I am not a good person because I don't delay the
>> people behind me to let someone in front of me. An example would be
>> while waiting at a red signal when someone is pulling out of a nearby
>> driveway to hold up traffic so they can enter the roadway.
>>
>> Today I saw something I had not seen before and exposes the true nature
>> of the people who demand this sort of consideration. I am waiting in a
>> long queue at red light heading south bound. Up ahead and to my left
>> there is a business driveway (east side of the street). A black Lincoln
>> SUV is turning left from the driveway.
>>
>> There are vehicles passing me on my left in the left turn lane so the
>> Lincoln driver pulls out blocking the north bound lanes to wait for them
>> to clear. Once they are past the Lincoln pulls into the left turn lane,
>> the driver flicks on the right turn signal and starts looking for a
>> place to jam himself into the queue several vehicles ahead of me.
>>
>> He is there for awhile when a cop turns left out of the same driveway
>> and pulls behind the lincoln. Suddenly, Mr. Lincoln driver isn't
>> interested in going south. He's going to turn left and go east. He pulls
>> up to the back of the left turn queue and turns left on the green arrow.
>>
>> It's pretty clear the driver of the lincoln knows exactly how MFFY his
>> behavior is because he aborts it in the presence of a cop who would be
>> delayed by it.
>>
>> Normally these wedging drivers will block the left turn lane until the
>> southbound green when someone will let them in. This leaves the left
>> turning drivers to miss the arrow and a number of southbound drivers to
>> miss the green signal.
>>
>> A typical instance of this situation at the same intersection can
>> be seen he http://blip.tv/file/2694154
>>
>> The really sad thing is that one can go out of that parking lot on to
>> the e-w road west bound then make a left turn south.
>>
>>
>
> you think the cop would really have hassled him? He wasn't speeding,
> was he?

Considering which police department it was, yes.

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 23:44:38 +0000 (UTC), Brent wrote:

> I am often told that I am not a good person because I don't delay the
> people behind me to let someone in front of me. An example would be
> while waiting at a red signal when someone is pulling out of a nearby
> driveway to hold up traffic so they can enter the roadway.
>
> Today I saw something I had not seen before and exposes the true nature
> of the people who demand this sort of consideration. I am waiting in a
> long queue at red light heading south bound. Up ahead and to my left
> there is a business driveway (east side of the street). A black Lincoln
> SUV is turning left from the driveway.
>
> There are vehicles passing me on my left in the left turn lane so the
> Lincoln driver pulls out blocking the north bound lanes to wait for them
> to clear. Once they are past the Lincoln pulls into the left turn lane,
> the driver flicks on the right turn signal and starts looking for a
> place to jam himself into the queue several vehicles ahead of me.
>
> He is there for awhile when a cop turns left out of the same driveway
> and pulls behind the lincoln. Suddenly, Mr. Lincoln driver isn't
> interested in going south. He's going to turn left and go east. He pulls
> up to the back of the left turn queue and turns left on the green arrow.
>
> It's pretty clear the driver of the lincoln knows exactly how MFFY his
> behavior is because he aborts it in the presence of a cop who would be
> delayed by it.
>
> Normally these wedging drivers will block the left turn lane until the
> southbound green when someone will let them in. This leaves the left
> turning drivers to miss the arrow and a number of southbound drivers to
> miss the green signal.
>
> A typical instance of this situation at the same intersection can
> be seen he http://blip.tv/file/2694154
>
> The really sad thing is that one can go out of that parking lot on to
> the e-w road west bound then make a left turn south.

I say tough ****.
If traffic is heavy, you just have to wait your turn.

Years ago I saw a sign at a business entrance that read "Do not block
intersection".
Excuse me? What intersection? Then why does *THIS* business get the
preferential treatment over others in the same block?
Where's the sign at in front of my driveway?

You want to do business in a place that's on a corner of a heavily used
intersection? That's your problem. You know what to do, turn right, go up
the street and turn around somewhere.

I once let a cop out of the same predictament you saw. The guy behind him
decided to take advantage and got smacked for it.

Tough **** buddy.

Brent wrote:
> I am often told that I am not a good person because I don't delay the
> people behind me to let someone in front of me. An example would be
> while waiting at a red signal when someone is pulling out of a nearby
> driveway to hold up traffic so they can enter the roadway.

Here's a good one for today... if you're going to try some
merge-impaired MFFY stupidity, don't do it in front of me, and also
don't do it when the police patrol is behind you with the blue lights on
the top of the car! Somebody got tagged on the merge lane! I'm
guessing that he had some explaining to do, in addition to paying a fine
to the two cops there.

> It's pretty clear the driver of the lincoln knows exactly how MFFY his
> behavior is because he aborts it in the presence of a cop who would be
> delayed by it.

I'd suggest that most of these MFFY drivers know exactly what they're
doing wrong, and they really don't like it when somebody does the same
thing to them.

Some people will tell you that you're supposed to accept what they're
doing, that the standards of driving are too complicated and that you're
the problem for wanting them to drive like everyone else. Just let them
in, slow down, guess what they're trying to do, and don't do anything
that could antagonise them. I hear this from the critics sometimes when
I almost crash into somebody who wasn't following the rules. I'm
supposedly the problem for not guessing that the idiot would fail to
yield, really putting the blame on the consequence instead of the cause
of the problem, which is a failure to yield to the driver with the
right-of-way. Whether they're failing to keep their attention on
driving or violating the rules deliberately, the results are the same:
crashes, injuries, deaths, and more money spent on cleaning the debris
and repairing cars damaged.

On 2009-10-09, Alexander Rogge > wrote:

> Some people will tell you that you're supposed to accept what they're
> doing, that the standards of driving are too complicated and that you're
> the problem for wanting them to drive like everyone else. Just let them
> in, slow down, guess what they're trying to do, and don't do anything
> that could antagonise them. I hear this from the critics sometimes when
> I almost crash into somebody who wasn't following the rules. I'm
> supposedly the problem for not guessing that the idiot would fail to
> yield, really putting the blame on the consequence instead of the cause
> of the problem, which is a failure to yield to the driver with the
> right-of-way. Whether they're failing to keep their attention on
> driving or violating the rules deliberately, the results are the same:
> crashes, injuries, deaths, and more money spent on cleaning the debris
> and repairing cars damaged.

It's like many other things, it's about shifting the burdens of life on
to other people. The same behavior exists in an office environment
where just a few people end up doing all the work while everyone else
plays the political games to advance their careers or are simply lazy.

In traffic recently I simply came to the conclusion
that what makes driving in north america so miserable for some and so
oh-hum for others is because of this shift of burden. The oh-hum relaxed
driver doesn't bother timing gaps for merging, doesn't care about
keeping right, doesn't look at the signal and just conga-lines on
through, rarely can be bothered to use a turn signal, and countless
other common behaviors. They shift the burden of merging on to the
drivers already on the road, they would have other people go around them
or just let them through. This of course increases the level of
difficulty and frustration for the other people. It's someone else's
responsibility to 'let them in' and other nonsense. Anything that would
require them to take an active role in driving becomes someone else's
responsibility.