CJ-7 Key wont turn all the way

Ok gang,
I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get at
the rod that turns inside the column?

Thanks

Stupid question I know, but did you try shooting some ZEP-45 or even some
WD-40 into it in case it's gunked up?


"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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Ok gang,
I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get at
the rod that turns inside the column?

Thanks

Kate wrote:
> Stupid question I know, but did you try shooting some ZEP-45 or even
> some WD-40 into it in case it's gunked up?
>
>
> "Jo Baggs" wrote ...
> Ok gang,
> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to
> the first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start
> detent. It almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is
> jammed up somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new
> key cylinder and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column?

Might give this a shot. It's not the best writeup but should get
you there.
http://www.epiccomputer.com/dale/jee...tilt/tilt.html

--
DougW

"DougW" > wrote in message
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> Kate wrote:
>> Stupid question I know, but did you try shooting some ZEP-45 or even
>> some WD-40 into it in case it's gunked up?
>>
>>
>> "Jo Baggs" wrote ...
>> Ok gang,
>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to
>> the first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start
>> detent. It almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is
>> jammed up somehow. Anyone have instructions on how to install a new
>> key cylinder and/or get at the rod that turns inside the column?
>
> Might give this a shot. It's not the best writeup but should get
> you there.
> http://www.epiccomputer.com/dale/jee...tilt/tilt.html
>
> --
> DougW

Doug, Thanks. Looks like this job is going to be a tough one as I don't
have any of the pullers in the article.

Kate, I'm pretty sure this goes beyond a squirt of WD-40, but I'll give it a
try.

Thanks.

The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
the rod popped there?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com

Jo Baggs wrote:
> Ok gang,
> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up somehow.
> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get at
> the rod that turns inside the column?
>
> Thanks
>
>

"Mike Romain" > wrote in message
. com...
> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
> the rod popped there?
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>
> Jo Baggs wrote:
>> Ok gang,
>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>> somehow.
>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>> at
>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>
>> Thanks

Mike,
is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?

"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>> the rod popped there?
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>
>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>> Ok gang,
>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>> somehow.
>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>>> at
>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> Mike,
> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?

Kate, I squirted some PB blaster in the cylinder. They key turns much
easier, but no cigar. It still wont hit the next detent.

Just to clarify, it will hit the accessory detent (counter clockwise) but
something prevents it from hitting the first detent clockwise. It just jams
up and wont turn any more.

I was thinking; instead of tearing the column apart, why don't I throw in a
couple of Solenoid switches. One switch to arm the ignition and another
starter switch.

Does anyone know which terminal does what on the starter solenoid (on the
passenger fenderwell)?

Thanks

I'd be willing to bet a nickle that the lock cylinder has gone fubar.
Prolly one ot the little spring loaded rods inside has blown through the
cast housing. I would pull the lock cylinder and have a look at it.

K.


"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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"Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
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>
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>> the rod popped there?
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>
>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>> Ok gang,
>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>> somehow.
>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>>> at
>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> Mike,
> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?

Kate, I squirted some PB blaster in the cylinder. They key turns much
easier, but no cigar. It still wont hit the next detent.

Just to clarify, it will hit the accessory detent (counter clockwise) but
something prevents it from hitting the first detent clockwise. It just jams
up and wont turn any more.

I was thinking; instead of tearing the column apart, why don't I throw in a
couple of Solenoid switches. One switch to arm the ignition and another
starter switch.

Does anyone know which terminal does what on the starter solenoid (on the
passenger fenderwell)?

Thanks

"Kate" > wrote in message
.. .
> I'd be willing to bet a nickle that the lock cylinder has gone fubar.
> Prolly one ot the little spring loaded rods inside has blown through the
> cast housing. I would pull the lock cylinder and have a look at it.
>
> K.
>
>
> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
> ...
>
> "Jo Baggs" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
>> . com...
>>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>>> the rod popped there?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>>
>>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>>> Ok gang,
>>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent.
>>>> It
>>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>>> somehow.
>>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or
>>>> get
>>>> at
>>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>
>> Mike,
>> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?
>
> Kate, I squirted some PB blaster in the cylinder. They key turns much
> easier, but no cigar. It still wont hit the next detent.
>
> Just to clarify, it will hit the accessory detent (counter clockwise) but
> something prevents it from hitting the first detent clockwise. It just
> jams
> up and wont turn any more.
>
> I was thinking; instead of tearing the column apart, why don't I throw in
> a
> couple of Solenoid switches. One switch to arm the ignition and another
> starter switch.
>
> Does anyone know which terminal does what on the starter solenoid (on the
> passenger fenderwell)?
>
> Thanks

Kate,
Maybe. However, the key does turn counterclockwise to the accessory
position and it does turn clockwise to unlock the steering wheel but not
far enough to the ignition on detent position. If one of the spring loaded
rods was bad, I wouldn't think the cylinder would turn at all.

Yes, the ignition switch and rod are accessible down at the bottom. The
ignition switch down there is also adjustable so it may just have come
loose.

Unfortunately your steering is now locked so you can't just jump start
it, well you can, but you are only going to go one way, the way the
wheels point now...

Bill did have a point, your front wheels aren't jammed up against a curb
are they? That 'can' lock the keyswitch up... It has happened to me
more than once....

Mike

Jo Baggs wrote:
> "Mike Romain" > wrote in message
> . com...
>> The switch is down at the bottom of the column, maybe it came loose or
>> the rod popped there?
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG AT's, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 'New' frame and everything else in '09. Some Canadian Bush Trip and
>> Build Photos: http://mikeromainjeeptrips.shutterfly.com
>>
>> Jo Baggs wrote:
>>> Ok gang,
>>> I need help. I went to start my 86 CJ-7 today. They key turned to the
>>> first detent (accessories on), but stops at the engine start detent. It
>>> almost feels like the rod inside the steering column is jammed up
>>> somehow.
>>> Anyone have instructions on how to install a new key cylinder and/or get
>>> at
>>> the rod that turns inside the column?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>
> Mike,
> is the rod accessible at the bottom of the column?
>
>