Foam in antifreeze resevour! C5

Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by weo
shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant even
when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles. The
temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?

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Stephen Horrillo wrote:
> Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by weo
> shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
> driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant even
> when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
> coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles. The
> temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
> Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>
Not sure when the change to Dexcool occurred. If the '98 uses it see:
<<
http://www.imcool.com/articles/antif...l-macs2001.htm >>

Radiator Cap? If it's in the driveway all night it might be "crying"
for a warm garage. {:-(

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Stephen Horrillo wrote:
> Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by weo
> shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
> driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant even
> when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
> coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles. The
> temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
> Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>

I would pull an oil analysis sample asap to make sure there are no
internal leaks letting coolant into the engine oil. These are very
common on GM V-6 engines. You don't have a V-6, but I would check just
the same. It is possible that the symptoms you describe could be
caused by a failed head gasket.

www.blackstone-labs.com is one of many companies that do this kind of
work. They will send you a sample kit. You send them the sample and
about $20 and you will find out if there is contamination.

Easy and cheap and well worth knowing.

There are many other labs which provide the same service.

John

I would flush it and hope.... Otherwise you are giving a classic
description of a blown head gasket.

One test is to carefully warm it up with the rad cap off and watch what
happens. If smoke also starts coming out the rad opening, it is the
gasket for sure.

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Stephen Horrillo wrote:
>
> Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by weo
> shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
> driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant even
> when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
> coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles. The
> temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
> Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>
> --
> All the best,
>
> Steve

If you are loosing antifreeze it is leaking. If you see antifreeze on the
driveway it is leaking. If you see bubbles and foam in the reservoir chances
are good the head gasket is blown. I don't know what weo shops is but since
you apparently know anything about engines I would find a qualified mechanic
to check it out before you have to replace the whole engine...



"Stephen Horrillo" > wrote in message
. ..
> Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by weo
> shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
> driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant even
> when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
> coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles. The
> temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
> Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>
> --
> All the best,
>
> Steve

"Woody" > wrote in message
t...
> If you are loosing antifreeze it is leaking. If you see antifreeze
> on the driveway it is leaking. If you see bubbles and foam in the
> reservoir chances are good the head gasket is blown. I don't know
> what weo shops is but since you apparently know anything about
> engines I would find a qualified mechanic to check it out before you
> have to replace the whole engine...
>
> "Stephen Horrillo" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told
>> by weo
>> shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water
>> in the
>> driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or
>> coolant even
>> when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow.
>> the
>> coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny
>> bubbles. The
>> temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the
>> system?
>> Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>> --
>> All the best,
>>
>> Steve
>
Now you're talking. This whole thing reeks of poor judgment and very
bad maintenance. First off the 98 Corvette has a low coolant warning
that is very sensitive and will even come on if you park on an incline
and you never mention that it came on. Adding coolant because you see
to much water on the driveway is the first step towards disaster. What
coolant was added, if it was incorrect for a GM vehicle you have
contaminated the coolant system. Is it not possible that the two shops
that said there was no leak was correct? Then you added more coolant
then it was designed for? When you say the temperature never goes
above normal could that mean the coolant is at a proper level or a
safe operational level?

My first suggestion is to take it to someone that knows something
about cars and keep your hands off of it. You have come up with more
problems on one Corvette than I have had with the last 6 that I've
owned.

Knock off the cross posting, if you want another opinion post it to
that group by it's self. If you just need attention post it to the
proper group, now back in the black hole. Of course if you post your
crap to enough groups it will come up here again. Then I'll have to
block those people to stop your drivel.

Sorry for the cross posting but you might want to be aware of this
guys background.

Have a wonderful day.

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>"Woody" > wrote in message
et...
>
>
>>If you are loosing antifreeze it is leaking. If you see antifreeze
>>on the driveway it is leaking. If you see bubbles and foam in the
>>reservoir chances are good the head gasket is blown. I don't know
>>what weo shops is but since you apparently know anything about
>>engines I would find a qualified mechanic to check it out before you
>>have to replace the whole engine...
>>
>>"Stephen Horrillo" > wrote in message
t...
>>
>>
>>>Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told
>>>by weo
>>>shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water
>>>in the
>>>driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or
>>>coolant even
>>>when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow.
>>>the
>>>coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny
>>>bubbles. The
>>>temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the
>>>system?
>>>Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>>>--
>>>All the best,
>>>
>>>Steve
>>>
>>>
>Now you're talking. This whole thing reeks of poor judgment and very
>bad maintenance. First off the 98 Corvette has a low coolant warning
>that is very sensitive and will even come on if you park on an incline
>and you never mention that it came on. Adding coolant because you see
>to much water on the driveway is the first step towards disaster. What
>coolant was added, if it was incorrect for a GM vehicle you have
>contaminated the coolant system. Is it not possible that the two shops
>that said there was no leak was correct? Then you added more coolant
>then it was designed for? When you say the temperature never goes
>above normal could that mean the coolant is at a proper level or a
>safe operational level?
>
>My first suggestion is to take it to someone that knows something
>about cars and keep your hands off of it. You have come up with more
>problems on one Corvette than I have had with the last 6 that I've
>owned.
>
>Knock off the cross posting, if you want another opinion post it to
>that group by it's self. If you just need attention post it to the
>proper group, now back in the black hole. Of course if you post your
>crap to enough groups it will come up here again. Then I'll have to
>block those people to stop your drivel.
>
>Sorry for the cross posting but you might want to be aware of this
>guys background.
>
>Have a wonderful day.
>
>
>

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On 5-Feb-2006, "Woody" > wrote:

> If you are loosing antifreeze it is leaking. If you see antifreeze on the
> driveway it is leaking. If you see bubbles and foam in the reservoir
> chances
> are good the head gasket is blown. I don't know what weo shops is but
> since
> you apparently know anything about engines I would find a qualified
> mechanic
> to check it out before you have to replace the whole engine...
>
>
>
> "Stephen Horrillo" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by
> > weo
> > shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
> > driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant
> > even
> > when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
> > coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles.
> > The
> > temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
> > Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?

I see water in the driveway but it doesn't smell like coolant. It's clear
like water. When I add water to the reseviour foam overflows even without
the engine running and the engine running 1/4 (like 1 minute) a block to get
to my condo's carwash to fill it.. Midas and The Chevy Dealer said they're
was no leaks and nothing was wrong. BTW the foam is white and has no
particular smell.

Sorry about the crossposting. I thought I was multiposting.

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Steve

Steve Horrillo wrote:
> On 5-Feb-2006, "Woody" > wrote:
>
>> If you are loosing antifreeze it is leaking. If you see antifreeze on the
>> driveway it is leaking. If you see bubbles and foam in the reservoir
>> chances
>> are good the head gasket is blown. I don't know what weo shops is but
>> since
>> you apparently know anything about engines I would find a qualified
>> mechanic
>> to check it out before you have to replace the whole engine...
>>
>>
>>
>> "Stephen Horrillo" > wrote in message
>> . ..
>>> Every few weeks I need to add coolant to my '98 C5. I've been told by
>>> weo
>>> shops there no leaks but every morning three's way too much water in the
>>> driveway. What really bothers me is when I go to add water or coolant
>>> even
>>> when the engines cool and not running when I fill it to overflow. the
>>> coolant is all foamy and aerated. Almost milky wit with tiny bubbles.
>>> The
>>> temp never goes above normal and runs fine. Should I flush the system?
>>> Could some hwise guy put soap in the coo lent reservoir?
>
> I see water in the driveway but it doesn't smell like coolant. It's clear
> like water. When I add water to the reseviour foam overflows even without
> the engine running and the engine running 1/4 (like 1 minute) a block to get
> to my condo's carwash to fill it.. Midas and The Chevy Dealer said they're
> was no leaks and nothing was wrong. BTW the foam is white and has no
> particular smell.
>
> Sorry about the crossposting. I thought I was multiposting.
>
Any chanced that the stuff on the driveway is A/C condensate.

Meanwhile, I agree that it's time to flush the cooling system and
replace the coolant (with the correct type.) Then start measuring how
much coolant is used to top off this car.

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On 5-Feb-2006, "Dad" > wrote:

> Adding coolant because you see
> to much water on the driveway is the first step towards disaster. What
> coolant was added, if it was incorrect for a GM vehicle you have
> contaminated the coolant system. Is it not possible that the two shops
> that said there was no leak was correct? Then you added more coolant
> then it was designed for? When you say the temperature never goes
> above normal could that mean the coolant is at a proper level or a
> safe operational level?

I add coolant/water only when the low coolant warning goes on. No inclines
in Florida. I used 50/50 Prestone and water and have been fillng it to the
brim only to try to flush out the foam. According to the manual I've been
doing it all wrong. Had no idea a C5 cooling system is so touchy. I used
water and Water Wetter in my Viper and never had a problem. Never had a
problem with the Vete either until recently when I broght the car in to the
deaer for a new A/C compressr. It's at 98,000 miles BTW.

BTW the sqeaking belt noise stopped, the interior guages and exterior lights
stopped dimming every 15 seconds, and the light's are myseriously opening
fine now.

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Steve