Ford's New V8 Going To Rock You Like A Hurricane!

wrote:

> The Hurricane is back.

Source for that article:
http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?
AID=/20060326/AUTO01/603260358/1148

Marke****ch view of article:
http://tinyurl.com/fdv45

"Ford spokesman Said Deep declined to comment on whether Ford is developing
the Hurricane engine"
"Ford has been roundly criticized by analysts for having an insufficient
amount of product, including engine options and other vehicle innovations,
coming out in future years to keep pace with Asian and U.S. competitors.
Ford lost $1.6 billion in North American auto operations in 2005 even as it
turned a profit on a global basis. It expects to again lose money at home
this year."
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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

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> Joe wrote:
>
> Oh ye, of little faith...
>
> Let's go back 10 years ago. Back then did we think there was a
> snowball's chance in hell we'd ever see a new:
>
> Bullitt Mustang
> Mach 1
> Supercharged Cobra Mustang, and one putting out 400 HP
> GT-40 (Ford GT)
> True retro-style Mustang ('05)
> 300HP in the standard GT Mustang
> Shelby Mustang (GT-500)
>
> C'mon, Joe. Give Ford some credit. Yeah, financially they're getting
> their butt kicked right now, but at least they're fighting back. A
> lucky us, part of their fight is for us enthusiasts.
>
> Patrick

Frankly, I'm tired of the rhetoric I keep hearing. Ford is like the boy
who cried wolf. As I've always said, show me the product. What
happened to the Adrenaline and Lightning as a couple of examples?
Excuses abound...


>> > John wrote:
>
>> >> If they plan to rename the Hurricane for release, why not simply
call
>> >> it the "Cleveland"
>> >
>> > I don't think "Cleveland" would resonate with too many modern
buyers,
>> > because the name doesn't have a long storied past like the Hemi
did.
>> > However, in the future, I'll bet a few new Mustang owners refer to
>> > their Hurricane's as Clevelands.
>> >
>> >> or better yet, "Cobra Jet"!
>> >
>> > Not for the engine name itself, but perhaps for the high-output
>> > package.
>> >
>> >> Instantly recognizable to those who also recognized the "hemi"
>> >> moniker
>> >
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I think Ford is finally fully in touch with what makes a Mustang a
>> > Mustang. I think we'll see a whole slew of novelty Mustangs in the
>> > future.
>> >
>> > Patrick
>>
>> a) The only hurricanes we'll see soon are ones like we saw last year.
>> Katrina and Wilma to name two.
>>
>> b) The only thing Ford is in touch with is the fact that they're
sinking
>> right along side GM.
>>
>> c) If we start seeing "novelty" Mustangs, it'll be simply because
Ford
>> needs to capitalize on the only decent car they make.
>

So I guess the debate can now begin on what kind of engine it will be.
This should be interesting. Perhaps, are we witnessing the beginning
of the end of the modular V8 as we know it?

"HerkyJerky" > wrote:

> So I guess the debate can now begin on what kind of engine it will be.
> This should be interesting. Perhaps, are we witnessing the beginning
> of the end of the modular V8 as we know it?
>
>

Uh.. no.

Now.. for my opinion.

The 'big block' is needed to compete... but it's only there to fill a
niche market.
Since the mod engine is a 'small block', there's not a lot of direct
competition.. and what I think is really the case: This is the LAST of
the "Big Block" engineering assignments.. for quite a while, anyway.
Look for it to have 'all-aluminum' casting options.

In fact, I hope so.. Ford needs to spend time and money in Gasoline
Direct Injection and Diesel (low sulfur) engineering.

The REAL money-maker for Ford in the mid-range will be the 3.5 Duratech
V-6 to be built at the Lima plant. While not real interesting to readers
on the Mustang group, that will be where Ford makes or breaks it in the
casual-performance market.

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Yeh, I'm a Krusty old Geezer, putting up with my 'smartass' is the price
you pay..DEAL with it!

I agree that we'll see some more specialty models but I'll bet we only
see a Hurricane-based Mustang in concept form; like the Boss 351 V10
from a few years ago. I don't see Ford spending the the time to certify
and package that motor when they've proven that the Modular motor can
easily make 500 bhp reliably and the owners and aftermarket have proven
the motor can make well over 1000 bhp relatively easily. Safety,
insurance, and traction are already easily blown away so why bother
fitting something else in there. DC and GM don't have any better
formula for those issues .

The flip side is whether or not Ford wants to get that motor into stock
racing for some reason. Then we might see a larger production run of
some vehicle to get the motor homologated.

It'll be fun to see

Dan
2003 Cobra convertible
With some stuff and things

Can I dare hope for a revived Mercury Marauder with 400hp rather than
300? Or even a Crown Vic with a real engine in it? Everyone's talking
up the 300C, but you don't get more American than a Crown Vic with a
real engine in it, and I'd rather have an engine built in my old
hometown of Cleveland OH than from some joint in Mexico.

Joe wrote:

> > Joe wrote:

> > Oh ye, of little faith...

> > Let's go back 10 years ago. Back then did we think there was a
> > snowball's chance in hell we'd ever see a new:

> > Bullitt Mustang
> > Mach 1
> > Supercharged Cobra Mustang, and one putting out 400 HP
> > GT-40 (Ford GT)
> > True retro-style Mustang ('05)
> > 300HP in the standard GT Mustang
> > Shelby Mustang (GT-500)

> > C'mon, Joe. Give Ford some credit. Yeah, financially they're getting
> > their butt kicked right now, but at least they're fighting back. A
> > lucky us, part of their fight is for us enthusiasts.

> Frankly, I'm tired of the rhetoric I keep hearing. Ford is like the boy
> who cried wolf. As I've always said, show me the product. What
> happened to the Adrenaline and Lightning as a couple of examples?
> Excuses abound...

Here are my thoughts:

A new Lightening wouldn't have been able to compete with Dodge's Viper
truck. The new F150 platform was heavier than the previous design,
making it too heavy for the blown undercubed 5.4 to reliably make the
necessary horsepower. So instead of playing second fiddle to Dodge in
a very small niche market Ford decided to pull out.

I'm also ****ed about the Adrenaline. I loved the concept model! That
would have been one kick-ass little truck! The only thing I can think
of was timing. I think when the decision came to either do it or not
do it was about the time gas prices were starting to soar. I think
those $2-$3 a gallon prices scared a few execs into playing it safe and
wait and see where prices were going to stabilize at.

At least this is what I hope happened. Anyways, if this doesn't soothe
it over for you stay positive and imagine a new 6.2 liter Mustang in
your driveway. ;-)

Patrick


>
> >> > John wrote:
> >
> >> >> If they plan to rename the Hurricane for release, why not simply
> call
> >> >> it the "Cleveland"
> >> >
> >> > I don't think "Cleveland" would resonate with too many modern
> buyers,
> >> > because the name doesn't have a long storied past like the Hemi
> did.
> >> > However, in the future, I'll bet a few new Mustang owners refer to
> >> > their Hurricane's as Clevelands.
> >> >
> >> >> or better yet, "Cobra Jet"!
> >> >
> >> > Not for the engine name itself, but perhaps for the high-output
> >> > package.
> >> >
> >> >> Instantly recognizable to those who also recognized the "hemi"
> >> >> moniker
> >> >
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > I think Ford is finally fully in touch with what makes a Mustang a
> >> > Mustang. I think we'll see a whole slew of novelty Mustangs in the
> >> > future.
> >> >
> >> > Patrick
> >>
> >> a) The only hurricanes we'll see soon are ones like we saw last year.
> >> Katrina and Wilma to name two.
> >>
> >> b) The only thing Ford is in touch with is the fact that they're
> sinking
> >> right along side GM.
> >>
> >> c) If we start seeing "novelty" Mustangs, it'll be simply because
> Ford
> >> needs to capitalize on the only decent car they make.
> >

Backyard Mechanic wrote:

> > So I guess the debate can now begin on what kind of engine it will be.
> > This should be interesting. Perhaps, are we witnessing the beginning
> > of the end of the modular V8 as we know it?

> Uh.. no.

> Now.. for my opinion.

> The 'big block' is needed to compete... but it's only there to fill a
> niche market.
> Since the mod engine is a 'small block', there's not a lot of direct
> competition.. and what I think is really the case: This is the LAST of
> the "Big Block" engineering assignments.. for quite a while, anyway.
> Look for it to have 'all-aluminum' casting options.

> In fact, I hope so.. Ford needs to spend time and money in Gasoline
> Direct Injection

Hopefully, the Hurricane will be direct injected.

Patrick

Dan wrote:
> I agree that we'll see some more specialty models but I'll bet we only
> see a Hurricane-based Mustang in concept form; like the Boss 351 V10
> from a few years ago. I don't see Ford spending the the time to certify
> and package that motor when they've proven that the Modular motor can
> easily make 500 bhp reliably and the owners and aftermarket have proven
> the motor can make well over 1000 bhp relatively easily. Safety,
> insurance, and traction are already easily blown away so why bother
> fitting something else in there. DC and GM don't have any better
> formula for those issues .

Cost and packaging. The new Hemi and LS2 don't have the added expense
of 3-4 valve heads, a supercharger and intercooler, plus Ford's cammers
require a higher hood line, and more space with the supercharger
attached.

Patrick

In article .com>, wrote:
> Can I dare hope for a revived Mercury Marauder with 400hp rather than
> 300? Or even a Crown Vic with a real engine in it? Everyone's talking
> up the 300C, but you don't get more American than a Crown Vic with a
> real engine in it,

Unless something makes an effective challenge to ford's fleet sales I
don't think it would happen. However, take your concept and raise it
with a 2 door body and convertible and call it a Galaxie 500 XL