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Old December 23rd 05, 07:13 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.privacy,uk.politics.misc,alt.politics.immigration
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"zadoc" > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:37:51 -0000, "Chris X"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"zadoc" > wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:09:43 -0000, "Chris X"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Ian Bailey" > wrote in message
egroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris X wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Ian Bailey" > wrote in message
>>>>>> ups.com...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Chris X wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> > Greg Hennessy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> >> >If only the reporter had actualy read his own report. A system
>>>>>> >> >> >to
>>>>>> >> >> >convert traffic and CCTV cameras into ANPR ones will not
>>>>>> >> >> >monitor
>>>>>> >> >> >every
>>>>>> >> >> >car everywhere.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Are you *really* sure about that ?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > You tell me. Does every road in the UK have a CCTV camera on it?
>>>>>> >> > Does
>>>>>> >> > the majority? Sure, most towns and cities will be able to
>>>>>> >> > monitor
>>>>>> >> > a
>>>>>> >> > large number of roads - but even there I doubt they'll cover
>>>>>> >> > every
>>>>>> >> > possible journey.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Out in the country you know as well as I do that there will be
>>>>>> >> > vast
>>>>>> >> > gaps in the coverage.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Now will it mean millions of motorists being nicked or
>>>>>> >> >> >getting tickets - not unless there will be a vast army of new
>>>>>> >> >> >coppers
>>>>>> >> >> >to follow up every one of these 100 million "plate reads" its
>>>>>> >> >> >going
>>>>>> >> >> >to
>>>>>> >> >> >record every day.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> It doesnt require a 'vast army' when the numberplate
>>>>>> >> >> recognition
>>>>>> >> >> system
>>>>>> >> >> can
>>>>>> >> >> generate the relevant paperwork direct from the DVLA databases.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Generate what paperwork? Speeding tickets? CCTV cameras don't
>>>>>> >> > have
>>>>>> >> > radar on them.....
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> No MOT, no tax, no insurance etc. Do try and keep up, Ian.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > So the objection is that this system will take uninsured death
>>>>>> > traps
>>>>>> > off the road? Yeah, its a terrible world we live in.....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next you'll be saying "If you've nothing to hide then you've got
>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>> to worry about".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps those who say "I have nothing to hide" and "I don't care"
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> already stepped over the Rubicon from proud member of the human
>>>>>> species
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> controllable lab rat ?
>>>>>
>>>>> So you ARE objeecting to uninsured deathtraps being taken off the
>>>>> road?
>>>>> Even I am concerned by the idea of using CCTV as ANPR - it won't work
>>>>> and it'll cost a fortune. But, if it succeeds in reducing the numbr of
>>>>> people driving without insurance and in dangerous cars then thats a
>>>>> good thing surely even you can't disagree with.
>>>>
>>>>LOL ! I'm objecting to coming under constant computerised
>>>>surveillance,
>>>>I
>>>>really couldn't give a toss about your side-issues which you have raised
>>>>above to try and get support from Daily Mail readers.
>>>>
>>>>> Except that you'll probably start defending every Englishman's right
>>>>> to
>>>>> drive without insurance.....
>>>>
>>>>If you were half a man you'd defend every British person's right to go
>>>>about
>>>>their business without being under constant computerised surveillance.
>>>>Still, if it saves the life of just *one* child, eh ?

>>
>>(Snip excuses for the Orwellian surveillance state)
>>
>>> In short, if you aren't doing anything illegal, why worry?

>>
>>The stock phrase of the useful idiot ...

>
> Gee, my wife once accused me of being a useless idiot. Many thanks
> for the complement!


I can well understand why.


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