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Old June 24th 06, 10:09 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.

Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.

Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
to clean out/off the antiseize?

Lg

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Old June 24th 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
...
>
> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>
> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>
> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
> to clean out/off the antiseize?


You didn't hurt anything. I use the silicone grease that is sold for this
purpose, but as long as the slides ride free and easy, it's fine.



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Old June 24th 06, 10:36 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:31:39 GMT, > wrote:

>
>"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
>> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
>> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>>
>> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
>> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>>
>> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
>> to clean out/off the antiseize?

>
>You didn't hurt anything. I use the silicone grease that is sold for this
>purpose, but as long as the slides ride free and easy, it's fine.


Whew!

Thanks.

Lg

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Old June 24th 06, 10:40 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>
> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>
> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>
> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
> to clean out/off the antiseize?
>
> Lg


It depends on how much you used.
In my experience, antiseize stuff hardens up or turns into a plastic rubbery
substance that prevents movement. Perhaps the oil will keep the antiseize in
suspension. I'd probably clean it out and then use the correct slide grease/oil.
The autoparts should have slide lube in those little packets at the counter.
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Old June 24th 06, 11:20 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:40:20 GMT, "« Paul »" <" « Paul
> wrote:

>Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>>
>> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
>> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
>> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>>
>> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
>> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>>
>> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
>> to clean out/off the antiseize?
>>
>> Lg

>
>It depends on how much you used.
>In my experience, antiseize stuff hardens up or turns into a plastic rubbery
>substance that prevents movement. Perhaps the oil will keep the antiseize in
>suspension. I'd probably clean it out and then use the correct slide grease/oil.
>The autoparts should have slide lube in those little packets at the counter.


Hmmm. I have that slide lube somewhere, but I just had so much STUFF
lying around, I went out and bought a toolbox yesterday for the trunk.
Lots of odds and ends, easy to get lost.

NOW I FIND IT!
CRC Synthetic brake caliper grease!!!

great. ( **** ).

Maybe I'll ride around for a while on my *mix* of drippy oil and
antiseize and see how things go. I don't relish pulling all that crap
apart again just at this moment, but for _sure_ this is going in my
toolbox for *next time.* I guess I'll have to use "Q-tips" to get the
old stuff out.

Lg

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Old June 24th 06, 11:26 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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Right stuff, synthetic high temp non corroding lube.
"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:40:20 GMT, "« Paul »" <" « Paul
> > wrote:
>
>>Lawrence Glickman wrote:
>>>
>>> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
>>> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
>>> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>>>
>>> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
>>> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>>>
>>> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
>>> to clean out/off the antiseize?
>>>
>>> Lg

>>
>>It depends on how much you used.
>>In my experience, antiseize stuff hardens up or turns into a plastic
>>rubbery
>>substance that prevents movement. Perhaps the oil will keep the antiseize
>>in
>>suspension. I'd probably clean it out and then use the correct slide
>>grease/oil.
>>The autoparts should have slide lube in those little packets at the
>>counter.

>
> Hmmm. I have that slide lube somewhere, but I just had so much STUFF
> lying around, I went out and bought a toolbox yesterday for the trunk.
> Lots of odds and ends, easy to get lost.
>
> NOW I FIND IT!
> CRC Synthetic brake caliper grease!!!
>
> great. ( **** ).
>
> Maybe I'll ride around for a while on my *mix* of drippy oil and
> antiseize and see how things go. I don't relish pulling all that crap
> apart again just at this moment, but for _sure_ this is going in my
> toolbox for *next time.* I guess I'll have to use "Q-tips" to get the
> old stuff out.
>
> Lg
>




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Old June 24th 06, 11:28 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:26:47 -0400, "Shep" >
wrote:

>Right stuff, synthetic high temp non corroding lube.


My question is, has this become an URGENT ISSUE? Is it way bad what I
did? Or can it wait a week or so?

Lg

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Old June 24th 06, 11:35 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
...
>
> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>
> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>
> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
> to clean out/off the antiseize?
>
> Lg
>

It depends on the type of antiseize you used. Most are petroleum based and
will deteriorate any rubber seals or rubber brake parts they come in contact
with. Shimano antiseize is one of many that will not harm rubber parts. I
can't say what was already on the slide pins, so I have no idea of weather
or not the compound you used will react adversely with it. There are many
chemicals and compounds used as lubricants that can have adverse reactions
when mixed. Because you are talking about bake parts, you should consider
the safety aspect of any adverse reactions that are possible and go back to
do the repair correctly. A silicone based lubricant such as disc brake lube
is the recommended lubricant for the slide pins. Clean everything up and
used the right stuff.
--
Kevin Mouton
Automotive Technology Instructor
"If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy"
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Old June 24th 06, 11:56 PM posted to rec.autos.tech
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 17:35:38 -0500, "Kevin" > wrote:

>
>"Lawrence Glickman" > wrote in message
.. .
>>
>> I was rotating tires and working on my disc brakes today, and when I
>> pulled the caliper slide pins, noticed they were in good shape and
>> well lubed with a drippy lubricant like oil.
>>
>> Then I got the idea of ADDING antiseize to them, and reinserted the
>> caliper slide pins with BOTH antiseize and that drippy oil on them.
>>
>> Question is, did I **** up? If so, should I get out there now and try
>> to clean out/off the antiseize?
>>
>> Lg
>>

>It depends on the type of antiseize you used. Most are petroleum based and
>will deteriorate any rubber seals or rubber brake parts they come in contact
>with. Shimano antiseize is one of many that will not harm rubber parts. I
>can't say what was already on the slide pins, so I have no idea of weather
>or not the compound you used will react adversely with it. There are many
>chemicals and compounds used as lubricants that can have adverse reactions
>when mixed. Because you are talking about bake parts, you should consider
>the safety aspect of any adverse reactions that are possible and go back to
>do the repair correctly. A silicone based lubricant such as disc brake lube
>is the recommended lubricant for the slide pins. Clean everything up and
>used the right stuff.


OK ( mumbles *damnit under breath* )

I told my wife I was working on the car " Don't worry dear, I'm not
doing anything that $3,000 in repairs won't fix " ;-||||

Let me go and pull the tube of antiseize and see what it says about
this.

It's PERMATEX brand anti seize. Doesn't say what is in it, but says
it is a lubricant but not a *high speed* lubricant. I.e. don't use on
gears, anything turning at high speed. No further information on the
label concerning use/contents.

I guess I'll have to pull the g.d. wheels and calipers again.

Lg

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Old June 25th 06, 12:21 AM posted to rec.autos.tech
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"Lawrence Glickman" wrote

> It's PERMATEX brand anti seize. Doesn't say what is in it, but says
> it is a lubricant but not a *high speed* lubricant. I.e. don't use on
> gears, anything turning at high speed. No further information on the
> label concerning use/contents.


http://www.permatex.com/products/aut...lubricants.htm

--------------------------
Permatex® Anti-Seize Lubricant

A highly refined blend of aluminum, copper and graphite lubricants.
Use during assembly to prevent galling, corrosion and seizing and to assure
easier disassembly. Temperature range: -60°F to 1600°F (-51°Cto 871°C).
Salt, corrosion and moisture resistant - ideal for marine use. Non-aerosol
version meets Mil Spec #907E. Aerosol - Level 3*

Suggested Applications: For easy removal of spark plugs, cylinder head and
exhaust head bolts.
------------------------------
Permatex® Ultra Disc Brake Caliper Lube

An environmentally-friendly, green, nonmelting, synthetic lubricant. It is
formulated to lubricate under the most adverse brake conditions, assuring
that critical caliper pins, sleeves, bushings and pistons remain lubricated
throughout pad life.

Suggested Applications: Caliper pins, sleeves, bushings and pistons
---------------------------------
Permatex® Ultra Disc Brake Caliper Lube Hi-Temp Silicone Formula

A silicone-based synthetic lubricating compound with outstanding temperature
resistance. Fortified with moly for superior performance in high pressure
conditions, this product provides continuous lubrication and has no dropping point.
Temperature range -65°F to 550°F (-54°C to 288°C) intermittent. Maintains a
grease-like consistency and will not liquefy, even at extreme temperatures.

Suggested Applications: Disc brake caliper pins, slides, bushings, pistons and
rubber sleeves
-----------------------------------

 




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