Fuel comparison charts

On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 22:25:14 -0500, Martin Eastburn
> wrote:

>Leases don't mean drilling. Billions of dollars were spent
>on the large state size leases offshore of California. Then after
>paying the government for the leases, the loonies pleaded and got
>a drilling halt and forbade wells out in the water.

What are you talking about? There have been no new offshore federal
leases issued in California since 1984. Are you talking about state
leases? Which ones?

>
>Large tracks are held at bay in the gulf.

No. There are as many oil rigs operating or contracted in the Gulf
today as were predicted for 2013 before the BP oil spill.

>Some were active but shut
>down after the spill. The area near Miami was rich in oil, but
>it was held back because of ugly rigs in the skyline. Then Cuba / China
>moved in and their rig can be seen from Miami.

No. The nearest exploratory rig off Cuba is over 200 miles from Miami.
And it's Cuba and Russia, in this case. It was the last rig off Cuba's
coast. It just shut down and is being moved to South America.

>
>MTBE dropped miles / gallon. It polluted ground water. And there is
>a huge bubble of it at the bottom of Lake Tahoe.
>
>Ethanol is hygroscopic and when a tank is a breather and not sealed,
>it pulls in cool damp air at night, and condenses into the tank. This
>is a common failure mode of gas now. Special ethanol additives have
>been developed to trap the water and allow it to be burned. Typically
>it sits and freezes - cracking small motor parts. I try to run all of
>them wide open to use up the gas before letting them sit.
>
>And taxes are more than Federal. Tax on the whole product string.
>And having the Gasoline and Crude oil different commodity and have
>been the souce of the 'excessive gain tax' - where the oil companies
>buy crude and sell the results of their work at a much higher value
>due to the demand price on gas and anti-demand on Crude.
>
>So taxes are from many levels and many methods.
>
>And I live in cattle, gas/oil/timber/farming area of Texas - and the
>large feed mills have had prices rise (brother worked at a large mill)
>and the chicken / turkey feed is up as well as dairy cattle feed / horse
>and pig feed. Any product that used grain - higher gas / fuel cost -
>rises the cost of feed. Supply and demand is another. Taking feed corn
>to be turned into this poor example of fuel is shameful. It was easy.
>
>Brazil has special engines. They did it correctly. Indy cars did it also.
>
>Martin

I can't chase all of your claims down, Martin. Without citations, they
just aren't worth tracking.

--
Ed Huntress


>
>On 7/1/2013 7:23 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:16:19 -0500, Martin Eastburn
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Washington holds back drilling - supply and demand.
>>
>> No, Washington isn't holding back drilling. They've let out hundreds
>> of drilling leases that the oil companies aren't using. Prices have
>> come down, not up. There is more supply than demand.
>>
>>> Washington taxes layer upon layer onto the fuel as a
>>> tax source.
>>
>> No, there is one federal tax on gasoline: 18.4 cents/gallon, where
>> it's been since 1993. With inflation, its value keeps going down.
>>
>>>
>>> The additives MTBE (trash junk that pollutes ground water) and now
>>> grain alcohol that robs the national store, world food bank, and
>>> home base food for all. Feed prices are up and fuel is also.
>>
>> Corn ethanol has had some influence on grain prices. Otherwise, every
>> one of your assertions here is a myth, Martin.
>>
>> Ed Huntress
>>
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>> On 6/30/2013 6:08 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:52:28 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Takes a lot of grains and starches off the market, that could have been used for feeding animals or humans. Or making manufacturing. On the other hand, I've heard we have plenty of oil in the ground in the USA, and off the coast. Our fuel shortages and high prices are due to Washington DC, not due to any real shortage.
>>>>
>>>> There is no fuel shortage. Prices are roughly the same as they were in
>>>> 1980, allowing for general inflation. Washington has almost nothing to
>>>> do with fuel costs.
>>>>
>>>> We have plenty of grains and starch to eat. Those are not issues.
>>>>
>>>> All in all, Chris, that's a lot of mush inside your head, for one
>>>> person. Where do you get all that stuff?
>>>>