Steve Smith, what do you think of GTL?

Alan Le wrote:
>>Thanks, Steve. The multiplayer will decide it for me. But even if MP is
>>good, why oh why no old tracks? I guess we'll have to trust in the
>>modders for those.
>
>
> My guess? It's because the tracks don't exist anymore. Seriously. When
> you consider how they go on about how meticulously they recreated small
> details for current tracks (e.g. bumps), old tracks don't make sense,
> because they don't fit. How do you get GPS and telemetry data for something
> that no longer exists? They could still do it, but IMHO it'd probably be an
> add-on. Otherwise, that whole accurate down to the bumps thing can't go on
> the box.
>
> I know, I know.... a lot of you don't care about that last bit.
>
> Alan
>
>
Actually, I think it's more a licensing issue. It's much easier to
license a current series than to do what papy did with GPL.

These modern track, with their wide run-off areas, will make for some
great racing.

The more I consider it, the less I'm worried about old tracks.

If we got some of these GPL track builders to covert over to GTL we'd
be in track heaven... lol


Besides all we really need is The Ring, already a GTR version, convert
it to GTL of course thats easier said than done...



I'd love to see GPL's Zandvoort in GTL.

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:24:12 GMT, whooo > wrote:

>Alan Le wrote:
>>>Thanks, Steve. The multiplayer will decide it for me. But even if MP is
>>>good, why oh why no old tracks? I guess we'll have to trust in the
>>>modders for those.
>>
>>
>> My guess? It's because the tracks don't exist anymore. Seriously. When
>> you consider how they go on about how meticulously they recreated small
>> details for current tracks (e.g. bumps), old tracks don't make sense,
>> because they don't fit. How do you get GPS and telemetry data for something
>> that no longer exists? They could still do it, but IMHO it'd probably be an
>> add-on. Otherwise, that whole accurate down to the bumps thing can't go on
>> the box.
>>
>> I know, I know.... a lot of you don't care about that last bit.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>Actually, I think it's more a licensing issue. It's much easier to
>license a current series than to do what papy did with GPL.
>
>These modern track, with their wide run-off areas, will make for some
>great racing.
>
>The more I consider it, the less I'm worried about old tracks.

The 'Ring, Spa, Zandvoort and Rouen would make my day with GTL.
If they were either included or available, I'd definitely buy the product.

BK

"Rich8" > wrote in message
...
> If we got some of these GPL track builders to covert over to GTL we'd be
in track heaven... lol

> Do you realise that what you've written makes absolutely no sense at all?
> Let's take the Nurburgring Nordschliefe for starters; it DOES exist. In
> fact, it is possible to travel around what once was the entire circuit.
>
>Then let's have a look at Spa, pre Bernie Ecclestone.
>The road system ALSO exists, so accurate mapping is certainly plausible.

Many tracks have undergone changes here and there. Take Spa. The bus stop,
for example, was updated recently. Small as that may be relative to overall
course length, how can they accurately reproduce Spa with the granularity
they boast about as it existed several decades ago? Bottom line is they
can't.

Maybe they could get fairly close and fudge the rest. You or I might not
particularly mind, but that wouldn't change the fact that fudging runs
contrary to "complete realism." Obviously, they can do whatever they please
regardless of their pitch. I'm just giving one reason why they might choose
not to.

Alan

Alan, think about it......think about it!

If the circuits don't exist any more, as they existed in the 1960's, who the
hell is ever going to be able to say..."THAT isn't accurate!"?

No-one, my friend.

And if the general layout is correct (and there is a plethora of historical
data, including circuit layouts to scale) then who the hell cares about
"granularity"?
Not me, for sure, and I'll wager, not anyone else whose racing memories of
these cars (GTL) goes back to the sixties and seventies.

As someone else has posted.....give us the GPL circuits in GTL and we'll be
perfectly happy.

Bruce.

Bruce Kennewell wrote:
> Alan, think about it......think about it!
>

Bruce, think about it...

Simbin are modelling a contemporary historic series that *gasp* runs old
cars on select contemporary tracks.

If the sim takes off, leave it to the community to whip up some historic
tracks.

-jde

"Bruce Kennewell" > wrote in
:

> Alan, think about it......think about it!
>
> If the circuits don't exist any more, as they existed in the 1960's,
> who the hell is ever going to be able to say..."THAT isn't accurate!"?
>
> No-one, my friend.
>
> And if the general layout is correct (and there is a plethora of
> historical data, including circuit layouts to scale) then who the hell
> cares about "granularity"?
> Not me, for sure, and I'll wager, not anyone else whose racing
> memories of these cars (GTL) goes back to the sixties and seventies.
>
> As someone else has posted.....give us the GPL circuits in GTL and
> we'll be perfectly happy.
>
> Bruce.
>
>

Most of the GPL circuits have already been converted over to F1c, from
there it is a short stay in the Code Hospital to update them to GTR and/or
GTL. Rouen is almost boring with a fully Winged Group C Prototype.
dave henrie