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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
In article >, GatorMan wrote:
> Until it happensd to you, you can't really express an opinion. > When Ford gets around to a recall or a tsb, all you know-it-alls will be > singing a different tune. TSB or no TSB if you know how to operate a car it's a non-event. > I know exactly where my feet were, on the brake Sorry, no. Not possible. Brakes cannot be overcome by the engine on a stock vehicle. > And I'm not a nitwit. I > built and dragged in my teens, switched to road racing Jaguars in my > late twenties. I have driven everything with wheels. From Sprites to a > Euclid. I'm a professional driver, with a "Class A CDL"........ Yet you couldn't find the key. > Search out "sudden acceleration" "unintended acceleration" > "unanticipated acceleration" and start living in the real world. In the real world, I've had a throttle stick. I turned off the key. |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
GatorMan wrote:
> Until it happensd to you, you can't really express an opinion. > When Ford gets around to a recall or a tsb, all you know-it-alls will be > singing a different tune. > > My 2006 Ford GT Mustang with A/T took off all by itself, full throttle, > wide open. It all happened in about 8 seconds, the car travelled exactly > 331 feet before it came to a stop (hit the garage.) > > I know exactly where my feet were, on the brake (not on the gas, no > carpet interference, no mats to get entangled). And I'm not a nitwit. I > built and dragged in my teens, switched to road racing Jaguars in my > late twenties. I have driven everything with wheels. From Sprites to a > Euclid. I'm a professional driver, with a "Class A CDL"........ > > Search out "sudden acceleration" "unintended acceleration" > "unanticipated acceleration" and start living in the real world. > > Ron in Tampa................ > You miss the point. If your brakes failed and the throttle stuck wide open and the steering did not work ALL at the exact same time, it is still your responsibility to keep that vehicle under control by shifting to neutral and/or flipping the key off. -- “I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
Brent P wrote:
> Sorry, no. Not possible. Brakes cannot be overcome by the engine on a > stock vehicle. >> And I'm not a nitwit. I >> built and dragged in my teens, switched to road racing Jaguars in my >> late twenties. I have driven everything with wheels. From Sprites to a >> Euclid. I'm a professional driver, with a "Class A CDL"........ Oh yeah, I tried this with the Mighty Titan and although it definitely did NOT work, I have to report that there is an exception. As part of the traction control and EBD system (electronic brake distribution) on the Titans when you mash the throttle and the brake at the same time the computer looks at the situation and says "Oh no, we shall have none of that." And the engine bogs down. This is the same reason that on the Titan you can not do a power brake burn out like on the Ford or Dodge, the limited slip rear is actually an electronic traction control administered by the EBD. Enter MiseryTom. Tom being somewhat of an electrical guru has "invented" a number of vehicle mods, including the MTBM or Misery Tom Burnout Mod. (Available to be seen he http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCf6HkQ_xM ) So to be totally fair about the situation I am going to solicit the help of someone who has said modification to flip their switch and then see if their 365 horse power Titan can over power the 12.6" four wheel disc brakes. I have my sincere doubts. -- “I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
"GatorMan" > wrote in message
. .. > Until it happensd to you, you can't really express an opinion. This is America. dwight |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
"WindsorFox" > wrote in message ... > Brent P wrote: > >> Sorry, no. Not possible. Brakes cannot be overcome by the engine on a >> stock vehicle. >>> And I'm not a nitwit. I built and dragged in my teens, switched to road >>> racing Jaguars in my late twenties. I have driven everything with >>> wheels. From Sprites to a Euclid. I'm a professional driver, with a >>> "Class A CDL"........ > > Oh yeah, I tried this with the Mighty Titan and although it definitely > did NOT work, I have to report that there is an exception. As part of the > traction control and EBD system (electronic brake distribution) on the > Titans when you mash the throttle and the brake at the same time the > computer looks at the situation and says "Oh no, we shall have none of > that." And the engine bogs down. This is the same reason that on the Titan > you can not do a power brake burn out like on the Ford or Dodge, the > limited slip rear is actually an electronic traction control administered > by the EBD. Enter MiseryTom. Tom being somewhat of an electrical guru has > "invented" a number of vehicle mods, including the MTBM or Misery Tom > Burnout Mod. (Available to be seen he > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUCf6HkQ_xM ) So to be totally fair about > the situation I am going to solicit the help of someone who has said > modification to flip their switch and then see if their 365 horse power > Titan can over power the 12.6" four wheel disc brakes. I have my sincere > doubts. > > -- > “I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart Don't worry about it, If a 429CJ in a '71 Mustang cannot overcome the old brakes on that car, and it can't, his 300 HP 4.6 can't overcome it's modern 4 wheel disc brakes. |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
"dwight" > wrote in message . .. > "GatorMan" > wrote in message > . .. >> Until it happensd to you, you can't really express an opinion. > > This is America. > > dwight > > LMFAO You posted to Usenet, everyone gets to express their opinion, and you can't really do anything about it... |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
Okay, lets see how this works:
Key ON - - - Key OFF - - - Power Steering ON NO Power Steering Power Brakes ON NO Power Brakes Engine ON NO Engine Power NO CONTROL STEERING WHEEL IS LOCKED So, which was the right decision. No-Brainer So, turn your key off Mr. Fox WindsorFox wrote: > GatorMan wrote: >> Until it happensd to you, you can't really express an opinion. >> When Ford gets around to a recall or a tsb, all you know-it-alls will >> be singing a different tune. >> >> My 2006 Ford GT Mustang with A/T took off all by itself, full >> throttle, wide open. It all happened in about 8 seconds, the car >> travelled exactly 331 feet before it came to a stop (hit the garage.) >> >> I know exactly where my feet were, on the brake (not on the gas, no >> carpet interference, no mats to get entangled). And I'm not a nitwit. >> I built and dragged in my teens, switched to road racing Jaguars in my >> late twenties. I have driven everything with wheels. From Sprites to a >> Euclid. I'm a professional driver, with a "Class A CDL"........ >> >> Search out "sudden acceleration" "unintended acceleration" >> "unanticipated acceleration" and start living in the real world. >> >> Ron in Tampa................ >> > > You miss the point. If your brakes failed and the throttle stuck wide > open and the steering did not work ALL at the exact same time, it is > still your responsibility to keep that vehicle under control by shifting > to neutral and/or flipping the key off. > |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
In article >, GatorMan wrote:
> Okay, lets see how this works: > > Key ON - - - Key OFF - - - > Power Steering ON NO Power Steering > Power Brakes ON NO Power Brakes > Engine ON NO Engine Power > NO CONTROL STEERING WHEEL IS LOCKED Wheel locked? No. Learn how the ignition works, you can turn it off without going to lock. And I've driven a car with the power steering not working, wasn't that hard. Same with power brakes when I disconnected the booster to diagnosis something. Of course, I still know what it's like to drive a power nothing car as I still own one. Now lets do that list again: Key ON Key OFF Accelerating out of control. Somewhat more difficult to steer, but slowing to a stop fairly quickly. Some how, you think Accelerating out of control is the better option. |
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
Well you just proved how much of an idiot you are, turn the key back ONE
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"SUDDEN ACCELERATION" 'aint going away........
GatorMan wrote:
> Okay, lets see how this works: > > Key ON - - - Key OFF - - - > Power Steering ON NO Power Steering > Power Brakes ON NO Power Brakes > Engine ON NO Engine Power > NO CONTROL STEERING WHEEL IS LOCKED > > So, which was the right decision. No-Brainer > So, turn your key off Mr. Fox > With this single post, you have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are an automotive imbecile. If the key is on and you stop the engine with a kill switch, you will STILL disable the power brakes, and the power steering. You can NOT however turn the key far enough to lock the wheel while the car is in "D." Incidentally, when the engine shuts off, unless I am mistaken, under the condition of "no engine power" that pretty much should negate the NEED FOR BRAKING AND STEERING!!! The correct decision was to TURN OFF THE KEY period. Then it would have been a non-incident. I tried to give you some benefit of the doubt, but apparently your are just a total boob and too dumb to realize it. -- “I intended that "not stupid" be a requirement.” – Seth Breidbart |
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