RFACTOR IS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 11:13:19 +0100, Jone Tytlandsvik wrote:
> No we can't! (apologies to any fast female knitters)

ok, I'll start the length comparison: 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
ten laps or so ;-)

uwe



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In article >, (Jone
Tytlandsvik) wrote:

> No we can't!

I suggest you try bigger needles ;-)

Andrew McP

PS After playing a little more...

1) Didn't realise there were three cars (or variants) to choose from. The
third is definitely a little friskier than the default... lost about 4s
off my first lap time. Which means by dinner time I should be lapping
under three hours ;-)

2) I think it's the highly detailed textures of track and grass are what
make this feel faster and more realistic than anything I've driven before.
The proper 3d cockpit helps as well. It has enough "depth" to make you
feel like you're really inside a vehicle.

3) The cockpit shake is also the best I think I've experienced so far. It
just seems "right". Not too much as to be annoying (something I felt with
the GTR demo) but enough to really add to the sense of being there.

4) I still love the sound :-)

In article >,
(Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?=) wrote:

> 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> ten laps or so ;-)

1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car (for
me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a lot, I
dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking, especially
when I mess up).

So I guess that means that a good driver should be managing to get well
under 1 minute with a hotlap setup :-)

This is pretty good fun though. I like LFS, but in a universe with limited
time for games (especially with HL2 about to appear and the 1.1 patch for
Lomac on the horizon) there is something very satisfying about the Rfactor
demo... so far. I've fallen in lust with demos before, and it's a little
early to say whether this is true love :-)

Andrew McP

In article
ss_disguised>,
(Andrew MacPherson) wrote:

> 4) I still love the sound :-)

5) I just spent an hour & a half doing other stuff and went back
to the demo. I swear the lighting's changed in that time. I'm
getting sunlight reflected off part of the track now. It's rather
impressive... or maybe it just means I should;ve been in bed two
hours ago <shrug>.

Andrew McP

In article
ss_disguised>,
(Andrew MacPherson) wrote:

> maybe it just means I should've been in bed two
> hours ago

Probably right. I set up the local server using "overcast" instead
of dry, and that seems to give some very impressive lighting
conditions.

Andrew McP... off to bed ;-)

"Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in message
ddress_disguised...
> In article >,
> (Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?=) wrote:
>
> > 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> > ten laps or so ;-)
>
> 1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car (for
> me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
> about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a lot, I
> dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking, especially
> when I mess up).

1:04 so far. Best I've heard of at RSC is a 1:02, which sounds about right.
Don't shift more than you have to. 3rd gear is fine for some of those slower
corners. 4th through T1.


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"David G Fisher" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in message
> ddress_disguised...
> > In article >,
> > (Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?=) wrote:
> >
> > > 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> > > ten laps or so ;-)
> >
> > 1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car
(for
> > me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
> > about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a lot,
I
> > dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking, especially
> > when I mess up).
>
> 1:04 so far. Best I've heard of at RSC is a 1:02, which sounds about
right.
> Don't shift more than you have to. 3rd gear is fine for some of those
slower
> corners. 4th through T1.

Sounds about right - I'm at pretty consistent 1:03's with some setup
tweaking, at least when the tires are in good shape. A 1:02 would be a very
good lap. It took some more tweaking to figure out what to do to get decent
framerates with this sucker, too - the auto settings had it running like a
slideshow. Had to bail from the incar entirely and tweak the bumper cam to
get a centrally-located view since the cockpit view takes the framerate
below a stable level. Same with RBR, which is even worse - I suppose the
DX9 graphics are nicer in these new games, but I don't see enough payoff to
justify the huge performance hit. You either have to turn off all the eye
candy and lower the rez to the point that they look worse than older games,
or drop $300 on a video card so they can look marginally better.

RFactor is very graphically demanding, even compared to GTR(demo); here are
some FRAPS numbers I took from doing a solo lap in the cockpit and then one
from the bumper cam. 30FPS worse than GTR incar, and about 50 from the
bumper view - even running at lower resolution! I can run GTR at 12X9 with
2XAA/2XAniso acceptably well, even with nineteen AI - but not this new
baby...

GTRDEMO 1280X960 noAA or Aniso incar no mirrors (all graphics on full
ingame)
Avg: 72.875 - Min: 43 - Max: 88

GTRDEMO 1280X960 noAA or Aniso bumper no mirrors
Avg: 101.479 - Min: 71 - Max: 145

RFACTOR MP TEST 1024X768 noAA or Aniso incar no mirrors (ingame graphics all
on high except for low shadows)
Avg: 41.779 - Min: 33 - Max: 57

RFACTOR MP TEST 1024X768 noAA or Aniso bumper no mirrors
Avg: 53.893 - Min: 41 - Max: 78

System: AMDXP2400/ABITKR7A at 280mhz/GFti4400(56.64) at 300:600mhz/256MB
RAM/SBAUDIGY/WIN98SE

1:03.XXX here also with a little setup tweaking. Can only race by myself
though, keep losing connection when racing on other people's servers. Damn
56k!!

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"Steve Blankenship" > wrote in message
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> "David G Fisher" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Andrew MacPherson" > wrote in
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> > ddress_disguised...
> > > In article >,
> > > (Uwe =?iso-8859-15?Q?Sch=FCrkamp?=) wrote:
> > >
> > > > 1m10s3xx in the fast one after
> > > > ten laps or so ;-)
> > >
> > > 1:09.6... but that's after about twenty laps, in the faster third car
> (for
> > > me anyway), with... er, about ten laps worth of fuel and some messing
> > > about with the brake bias and brake strength (the latter helps me a
lot,
> I
> > > dropped it to 75% and I now feel more in control of braking,
especially
> > > when I mess up).
> >
> > 1:04 so far. Best I've heard of at RSC is a 1:02, which sounds about
> right.
> > Don't shift more than you have to. 3rd gear is fine for some of those
> slower
> > corners. 4th through T1.
>
> Sounds about right - I'm at pretty consistent 1:03's with some setup
> tweaking, at least when the tires are in good shape. A 1:02 would be a
very
> good lap. It took some more tweaking to figure out what to do to get
decent
> framerates with this sucker, too - the auto settings had it running like a
> slideshow. Had to bail from the incar entirely and tweak the bumper cam
to
> get a centrally-located view since the cockpit view takes the framerate
> below a stable level. Same with RBR, which is even worse - I suppose the
> DX9 graphics are nicer in these new games, but I don't see enough payoff
to
> justify the huge performance hit. You either have to turn off all the eye
> candy and lower the rez to the point that they look worse than older
games,
> or drop $300 on a video card so they can look marginally better.
>
> RFactor is very graphically demanding, even compared to GTR(demo); here
are
> some FRAPS numbers I took from doing a solo lap in the cockpit and then
one
> from the bumper cam. 30FPS worse than GTR incar, and about 50 from the
> bumper view - even running at lower resolution! I can run GTR at 12X9
with
> 2XAA/2XAniso acceptably well, even with nineteen AI - but not this new
> baby...
>
> GTRDEMO 1280X960 noAA or Aniso incar no mirrors (all graphics on full
> ingame)
> Avg: 72.875 - Min: 43 - Max: 88
>
> GTRDEMO 1280X960 noAA or Aniso bumper no mirrors
> Avg: 101.479 - Min: 71 - Max: 145
>
> RFACTOR MP TEST 1024X768 noAA or Aniso incar no mirrors (ingame graphics
all
> on high except for low shadows)
> Avg: 41.779 - Min: 33 - Max: 57
>
> RFACTOR MP TEST 1024X768 noAA or Aniso bumper no mirrors
> Avg: 53.893 - Min: 41 - Max: 78
>
> System: AMDXP2400/ABITKR7A at 280mhz/GFti4400(56.64) at 300:600mhz/256MB
> RAM/SBAUDIGY/WIN98SE
>
>

On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 14:20 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
(Andrew MacPherson) wrote something
like:

>Probably right. I set up the local server using "overcast" instead
>of dry, and that seems to give some very impressive lighting
>conditions.

Actually there is a (limited) dynamic lighting change.

BTW, is there any way to turn clutch help on/off? Or remove the wheel
from the cockpit?
--
- Jussi Koukku -

In article >,
(Jussi Koukku) wrote:

> is there any way to turn clutch help on/off?

Yes, it's F11 or F10 I think, as well as the setup menu somewhere.
Not sure about the wheel.

Andrew McP