An Uncanny Coincidence?

> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:45:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>
>>
>>"frank-in-toronto" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 18:05:38 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C minivan -
>>>>70K
>>>>miles
>>>>The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy hesitated
>>>>to
>>>>say WHAT it was.
>>>>I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since then,
>>>>I
>>>>have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using Castrol
>>>>GTX
>>>>and always changing the oil filter.
>>>>
>>>>After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
>>>>water
>>>>about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>>>>capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled into
>>>>the
>>>>driveway.
>>>>Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>>> think back. every time you get work done there, does
>>> something else break or fail right away? happened to me
>>> at a local midas. i stopped going even tho i have free
>>> lifetime oil changes cause every time i went, i would
>>> have a surpentine belt problem. i think he was squirting
>>> some oil onto it. on purpose.
>>> ...thehick
>>
>>That's one of the reasons I go there, they don't have a history of
>>unnecessary "other" work and haven't had other problems after a shop visit
>>before. Its just that maybe that belt was destined to not make it to
>>70,000 miles. who knows..
>>Course, I DO guess they may have had their greasy fingers/spilled lube on
>>the belt while removing/reinstalling the oilpan
>>
> 70,000 miles is significantly longer than "average" life for a
> serpentine belt.
> Should be replaced every 50,000 or 5 years, which ever comes first.

Evidently, it lasted almost 70,000, and it has been 5 years last month.

Maxpower, yes the tensioner needed to be "replaced".
However, I didn't fiddle with it personally, i am trusting the shop to be
fair. I HOPE!!!

So now they are telling me I really SHOULD tune up now too, though the
"manual" says it should be done at 100,000 miles.
Something to consider sooner rather than later.

"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
> the belt doesnt have to be on it to be able to move the tensioner, all you
> have to do is push on it, it should go down with a force and back up with
> no
> problems, if you have someone put this belt on that isnt familiar with it,
> you may be right back on the tow truck if the tensioner is bad
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>
>> >heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>> >I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
> towed
>> >to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my
> kids
>> >from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that
>> >it
>> >has some 'checking' or cracking.
>> >
>> >I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom and
>> >sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup
>> >tube.
>> >Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
> miles
>> >or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>> >
>>
>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>> top brands.
>> >"maxpower" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to
> be
>> >> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure
>> >> it
>> >> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>> >> "NoName" > wrote in message
>> >> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>> >>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
> minivan -
>> >> 70K
>> >>> miles
>> >>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy
>> >>> hesitated
> to
>> >>> say WHAT it was.
>> >>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since
> then, I
>> >>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
> Castrol
>> >> GTX
>> >>> and always changing the oil filter.
>> >>>
>> >>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
> water
>> >>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>> >>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
> into
>> >> the
>> >>> driveway.
>> >>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and
>> >>> does
>> >>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan
> and
>> >>> reinstall it?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for any info.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

Maxpower, yes the tensioner needed to be "replaced".
However, I didn't fiddle with it personally, i am trusting the shop to be
fair. I HOPE!!!

So now they are telling me I really SHOULD tune up now too, though the
"manual" says it should be done at 100,000 miles.
Something to consider sooner rather than later.

"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
> the belt doesnt have to be on it to be able to move the tensioner, all you
> have to do is push on it, it should go down with a force and back up with
> no
> problems, if you have someone put this belt on that isnt familiar with it,
> you may be right back on the tow truck if the tensioner is bad
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>
>> >heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>> >I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
> towed
>> >to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my
> kids
>> >from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that
>> >it
>> >has some 'checking' or cracking.
>> >
>> >I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom and
>> >sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup
>> >tube.
>> >Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
> miles
>> >or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>> >
>>
>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>> top brands.
>> >"maxpower" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to
> be
>> >> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure
>> >> it
>> >> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>> >> "NoName" > wrote in message
>> >> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>> >>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
> minivan -
>> >> 70K
>> >>> miles
>> >>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy
>> >>> hesitated
> to
>> >>> say WHAT it was.
>> >>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since
> then, I
>> >>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
> Castrol
>> >> GTX
>> >>> and always changing the oil filter.
>> >>>
>> >>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
> water
>> >>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>> >>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
> into
>> >> the
>> >>> driveway.
>> >>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>> >>>
>> >>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and
>> >>> does
>> >>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan
> and
>> >>> reinstall it?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks for any info.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
>

there is a tsb for water getting on the belt and it flinging off but that
involves replaacing the hvac drain but inspect the wiper cowl drain to see if
it fell off on the right side above the belt

maxpower wrote:

> I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to be
> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure it
> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
> "NoName" > wrote in message
> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
> > Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C minivan -
> 70K
> > miles
> > The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy hesitated to
> > say WHAT it was.
> > I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since then, I
> > have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using Castrol
> GTX
> > and always changing the oil filter.
> >
> > After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing water
> > about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
> > capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled into
> the
> > driveway.
> > Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and does
> > the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan and
> > reinstall it?
> >
> > Thanks for any info.
> >
> >
> >

there is a tsb for water getting on the belt and it flinging off but that
involves replaacing the hvac drain but inspect the wiper cowl drain to see if
it fell off on the right side above the belt

maxpower wrote:

> I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to be
> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure it
> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
> "NoName" > wrote in message
> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
> > Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C minivan -
> 70K
> > miles
> > The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy hesitated to
> > say WHAT it was.
> > I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since then, I
> > have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using Castrol
> GTX
> > and always changing the oil filter.
> >
> > After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing water
> > about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
> > capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled into
> the
> > driveway.
> > Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and does
> > the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan and
> > reinstall it?
> >
> > Thanks for any info.
> >
> >
> >

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:33:32 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>
>>>heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>>>I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
>>>towed
>>>to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my kids
>>>from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that it
>>>has some 'checking' or cracking.
>>>
>>>I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom and
>>>sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup tube.
>>>Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
>>>miles
>>>or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>>>
>>
>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>> top brands.
>
>
>
> I have been using that cheapo Castrol GTX 10-30 or 10-40 for about 25
>years.
>
>
Well, I've never had problems with GTX, particularly when changed
regularly. Hard black carbon - you certain there has never been
glycol in the crankcase?
>
>
>>>"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
>>>>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to be
>>>> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure it
>>>> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>>>> "NoName" > wrote in message
>>>> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>>>>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
>>>>> minivan -
>>>> 70K
>>>>> miles
>>>>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy hesitated
>>>>> to
>>>>> say WHAT it was.
>>>>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since then,
>>>>> I
>>>>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
>>>>> Castrol
>>>> GTX
>>>>> and always changing the oil filter.
>>>>>
>>>>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
>>>>> water
>>>>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>>>>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
>>>>> into
>>>> the
>>>>> driveway.
>>>>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and
>>>>> does
>>>>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan
>>>>> and
>>>>> reinstall it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:33:32 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:

>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>
>>>heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>>>I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
>>>towed
>>>to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my kids
>>>from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that it
>>>has some 'checking' or cracking.
>>>
>>>I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom and
>>>sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup tube.
>>>Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
>>>miles
>>>or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>>>
>>
>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>> top brands.
>
>
>
> I have been using that cheapo Castrol GTX 10-30 or 10-40 for about 25
>years.
>
>
Well, I've never had problems with GTX, particularly when changed
regularly. Hard black carbon - you certain there has never been
glycol in the crankcase?
>
>
>>>"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
>>>>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to be
>>>> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure it
>>>> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>>>> "NoName" > wrote in message
>>>> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>>>>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
>>>>> minivan -
>>>> 70K
>>>>> miles
>>>>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy hesitated
>>>>> to
>>>>> say WHAT it was.
>>>>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since then,
>>>>> I
>>>>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
>>>>> Castrol
>>>> GTX
>>>>> and always changing the oil filter.
>>>>>
>>>>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
>>>>> water
>>>>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>>>>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
>>>>> into
>>>> the
>>>>> driveway.
>>>>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and
>>>>> does
>>>>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan
>>>>> and
>>>>> reinstall it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:33:32 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>>>>I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
>>>>towed
>>>>to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my
>>>>kids
>>>>from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that
>>>>it
>>>>has some 'checking' or cracking.
>>>>
>>>>I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom and
>>>>sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup
>>>>tube.
>>>>Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
>>>>miles
>>>>or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>>> top brands.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been using that cheapo Castrol GTX 10-30 or 10-40 for about
>> 25
>>years.
>>
>>
> Well, I've never had problems with GTX, particularly when changed
> regularly. Hard black carbon - you certain there has never been
> glycol in the crankcase?

No, I am NOT certain, in fact, that is a strange anomoly that sometimes that
car "uses" some antifreeze, but it isn't consistent.
some weeks no change in coolant level, then all of a sudden, i need to add a
quart or two of 50% mix.
but no "white smoke"/steam goes out the exhaust and its NOT steady, coolant
level will be steady, then one week, down a little to a lot, then back to no
change for awhile. could be the antifreeze getting into the oil?? hmmm...



>>
>>
>>>>"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to
>>>>>be
>>>>> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure
>>>>> it
>>>>> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>>>>> "NoName" > wrote in message
>>>>> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>>>>>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
>>>>>> minivan -
>>>>> 70K
>>>>>> miles
>>>>>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy
>>>>>> hesitated
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say WHAT it was.
>>>>>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since
>>>>>> then,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
>>>>>> Castrol
>>>>> GTX
>>>>>> and always changing the oil filter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
>>>>>> water
>>>>>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>>>>>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
>>>>>> into
>>>>> the
>>>>>> driveway.
>>>>>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> reinstall it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:33:32 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>
>>
> wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>>
>>>>heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>>>>I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
>>>>towed
>>>>to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my
>>>>kids
>>>>from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that
>>>>it
>>>>has some 'checking' or cracking.
>>>>
>>>>I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom and
>>>>sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup
>>>>tube.
>>>>Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
>>>>miles
>>>>or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>>> top brands.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have been using that cheapo Castrol GTX 10-30 or 10-40 for about
>> 25
>>years.
>>
>>
> Well, I've never had problems with GTX, particularly when changed
> regularly. Hard black carbon - you certain there has never been
> glycol in the crankcase?

No, I am NOT certain, in fact, that is a strange anomoly that sometimes that
car "uses" some antifreeze, but it isn't consistent.
some weeks no change in coolant level, then all of a sudden, i need to add a
quart or two of 50% mix.
but no "white smoke"/steam goes out the exhaust and its NOT steady, coolant
level will be steady, then one week, down a little to a lot, then back to no
change for awhile. could be the antifreeze getting into the oil?? hmmm...



>>
>>
>>>>"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to
>>>>>be
>>>>> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure
>>>>> it
>>>>> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>>>>> "NoName" > wrote in message
>>>>> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>>>>>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
>>>>>> minivan -
>>>>> 70K
>>>>>> miles
>>>>>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy
>>>>>> hesitated
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say WHAT it was.
>>>>>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since
>>>>>> then,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
>>>>>> Castrol
>>>>> GTX
>>>>>> and always changing the oil filter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
>>>>>> water
>>>>>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>>>>>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
>>>>>> into
>>>>> the
>>>>>> driveway.
>>>>>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen, and
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil pan
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> reinstall it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

Maybe I should post this as a NEW thread,
just to see if anyone can respond to "glycol" in oil. IF that is what I am
experiencing.
I don't want to have a "oil pump" pressure problem another 60K miles from
now.
!!!!!!!!!!!


"NoName" > wrote in message
news:f%Ovd.235477$HA.219183@attbi_s01...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:33:32 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>
>>>
> wrote in message
...
>>>> On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:43:28 GMT, "NoName" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>heh heh, there IS no tension, the belt is completely off the pulleys.
>>>>>I probably could do the replacement, but I *think* I will have the car
>>>>>towed
>>>>>to a shop and have a new belt put on. Saves MY knuckles and keeps my
>>>>>kids
>>>>>from hearing so many bad words. I did see enough of the old belt that
>>>>>it
>>>>>has some 'checking' or cracking.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am still puzzled at the hard black (carbon?) buildup in the bottom
>>>>>and
>>>>>sides of the oil pan AND the almost complete blocking of the pickup
>>>>>tube.
>>>>>Its almost to the point of either needing to change oil every THOUSAND
>>>>>miles
>>>>>or go with the 7,500 "allowance" and expect a failure.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What kind of crappy oil are you using? I suspect it is NOT one of the
>>>> top brands.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been using that cheapo Castrol GTX 10-30 or 10-40 for about
>>> 25
>>>years.
>>>
>>>
>> Well, I've never had problems with GTX, particularly when changed
>> regularly. Hard black carbon - you certain there has never been
>> glycol in the crankcase?
>
> No, I am NOT certain, in fact, that is a strange anomoly that sometimes
> that car "uses" some antifreeze, but it isn't consistent.
> some weeks no change in coolant level, then all of a sudden, i need to add
> a quart or two of 50% mix.
> but no "white smoke"/steam goes out the exhaust and its NOT steady,
> coolant level will be steady, then one week, down a little to a lot, then
> back to no change for awhile. could be the antifreeze getting into the
> oil?? hmmm...
>
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>"maxpower" > wrote in message
...
>>>>>>I would guess this is the 3.3 engine, and no the belt does not have to
>>>>>>be
>>>>>> removed to have the pan removed, pull on the tensioner and make sure
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> springs back, if not replace it, also check for proper alignment
>>>>>> "NoName" > wrote in message
>>>>>> news:SL%ud.182368$V41.121665@attbi_s52...
>>>>>>> Just recently had some repair work done on a 2000 Chrysler T&C
>>>>>>> minivan -
>>>>>> 70K
>>>>>>> miles
>>>>>>> The oil pick-up tube was clogged with "debris", the shop guy
>>>>>>> hesitated
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> say WHAT it was.
>>>>>>> I have changed the oil every 3000 miles up to 50K miles and since
>>>>>>> then,
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> have let it go to 4,000 miles maybe twice, and 4,500 once, using
>>>>>>> Castrol
>>>>>> GTX
>>>>>>> and always changing the oil filter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After getting the vehicle back, my wife drove through some standing
>>>>>>> water
>>>>>>> about five blocks from our house and immediately lost power steering
>>>>>>> capability and the temperature gauge was overheated when she pulled
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> driveway.
>>>>>>> Well, of course the serpentine belt came off the pulleys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me WHY and HOW such debris build up could happen,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> the serpentine belt need to be removed/loosened to remove the oil
>>>>>>> pan
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> reinstall it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for any info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>