Radiator steam/overheating help *Pictures

On Aug 19, 6:26 pm, Bill Putney > wrote:
> afx wrote:
> > One more question
>
> > Ive decided to just buy a new radiator, I can get one for like 120
> > shipped on ebay and put it in myself. Im pretty sure I need to get one
> > with an engine oil cooler included. Am I correct on this?
>
> > Here's the one im planning on purchasing.
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chrys...8-99-00-01-Rad...
>
> Yes - the OEM P/N they reference is correct for all '98 LH applications
> - that year does have both oil cooler and tranny cooler in the radiator,
> which they reference in the description. Looks like that's the one you
> need.
>
> Be sure to only use GL-05-type coolant - available at DC and Ford
> dealers; also Zerex makes a GL-05 - but Zerex makes several kinds of
> antifreeze - so if you get Zerex, make sure what you get says GL-05 on
> it (it's *not* the "All Makes All Models"). Zerex's and Ford's is
> yellow, DC/Mopar is reddish orange.
>
> DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT USE DexCool™/Prestone Extended Life™.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
> address with the letter 'x')

Yikes, I think I just bought the first yellow 50/50 bottle at wally
world.

What would be the problem with using that stuff?

afx wrote:
> On Aug 17, 5:31 pm, afx > wrote:
>> Yesterday my wifes car started steaming in the driveway and popped up
>> to 2 lines below HOT so we shut it off, today I took the radiator
>> cross bar off and headlight and saw where the smoke is coming from, I
>> took a picture.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>> <img src="http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/
>> IMAGE_010.jpg">
>
> sorry, I guess posting pics inst possible.
>
> this is a clearer pic (all I had was my cell on me)
>
> http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...MAGE_007-1.jpg
>
>
> She has a 1998 Concorde LXI 3.2l

my diagnosis is you got a big ass hole in the plastic sidetank of your
radiator.......

On Aug 19, 11:12 pm, "mark" > wrote:
> afx wrote:
> > On Aug 17, 5:31 pm, afx > wrote:
> >> Yesterday my wifes car started steaming in the driveway and popped up
> >> to 2 lines below HOT so we shut it off, today I took the radiator
> >> cross bar off and headlight and saw where the smoke is coming from, I
> >> took a picture.
>
> >> Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> >> <img src="http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/
> >> IMAGE_010.jpg">
>
> > sorry, I guess posting pics inst possible.
>
> > this is a clearer pic (all I had was my cell on me)
>
> >http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...MAGE_007-1.jpg
>
> > She has a 1998 Concorde LXI 3.2l
>
> my diagnosis is you got a big ass hole in the plastic sidetank of your
> radiator.......- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Your a very astute man Mr. Mark.

Especially as you're not planning to keep this vehicle forever, one help
(with your replacement radiator) might be what a radiator repair guy advised
me (after fixing my radiator): he said that he put a 7 pound cap on
radiators on any old cars. Not a problem as long as you have an overflow
tank, and puts a lot less stress on the other old parts...
(You need to get this at a decent parts shop. Most places just look up your
car on a computer and can't think past what the machine tells them is
official...)

"Bill Putney" > wrote in message
...
> afx wrote:
>
>> One more question
>>
>> Ive decided to just buy a new radiator, I can get one for like 120
>> shipped on ebay and put it in myself. Im pretty sure I need to get one
>> with an engine oil cooler included. Am I correct on this?
>>
>>
>> Here's the one im planning on purchasing.
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chrys...spagenameZWDVW
>
> Yes - the OEM P/N they reference is correct for all '98 LH applications -
> that year does have both oil cooler and tranny cooler in the radiator,
> which they reference in the description. Looks like that's the one you
> need.
>
> Be sure to only use GL-05-type coolant - available at DC and Ford dealers;
> also Zerex makes a GL-05 - but Zerex makes several kinds of antifreeze -
> so if you get Zerex, make sure what you get says GL-05 on it (it's *not*
> the "All Makes All Models"). Zerex's and Ford's is yellow, DC/Mopar is
> reddish orange.
>
> DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT USE DexCool™/Prestone Extended Life™.
>
> Bill Putney
> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address
> with the letter 'x')

afx wrote:

>>...Be sure to only use GL-05-type coolant - available at DC and Ford
>>dealers; also Zerex makes a GL-05 - but Zerex makes several kinds of
>>antifreeze - so if you get Zerex, make sure what you get says GL-05 on
>>it (it's *not* the "All Makes All Models"). Zerex's and Ford's is
>>yellow, DC/Mopar is reddish orange.
>>
>>DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT USE DexCool™/Prestone Extended Life™.
>>
>>Bill Putney
>>(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>>address with the letter 'x')
>
>
> Yikes, I think I just bought the first yellow 50/50 bottle at wally
> world.
>
> What would be the problem with using that stuff?

It's not the right stuff. The G-05 (HOAT) is much better and doesn't
have the problems of DexCool™ (OAT) or traditional antifreezes. There
were a lot of lessons learned over the last few years with antifreeze
(DexCool is an example of what *not* to do). Frod and GM wisely
bypassed DexCool/OAT type and had Zerex develop G-05 from the lessons
learned. It has proven to be excellent.

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

Bill Putney wrote:

> Frod and GM wisely
> bypassed DexCool/OAT type and had Zerex develop G-05...

In way too much of a hurry. "Ford and Chrysler wisely...".

Bill Putney
(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address with the letter 'x')

afx wrote:

> Yesterday my wifes car started steaming in the driveway and popped up
> to 2 lines below HOT so we shut it off, today I took the radiator
> cross bar off and headlight and saw where the smoke is coming from, I
> took a picture.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions?
>

Time for a new radiator.

afx wrote:

> On Aug 17, 6:08 pm, Bill Putney > wrote:
>
>>afx wrote:
>>
>>>Yesterday my wifes car started steaming in the driveway and popped up
>>>to 2 lines below HOT so we shut it off, today I took the radiator
>>>cross bar off and headlight and saw where the smoke is coming from, I
>>>took a picture.
>>
>>>Anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>>><img src="http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb11/afxtwn/
>>>IMAGE_010.jpg">
>>
>>Ummm - your rardiator has a huge hole in it (plastic end cap). Time for
>>a new radiator.
>>
>>Bill Putney
>>(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>>address with the letter 'x')
>
>
> Well I know that thats why I took a pic of it.
>
> The radiator is only about 1.5 years old, any reason why it would do
> this?
>

Probably the fact that a whole lot of aftermarket radiators are made in
China these days.

I'd at least check to see if there is an all-metal aftermarket radiator
available for that application- I've never liked plastic end-tanks,
although (knock wood) my wife's car has almost 250k miles on its plastic
radiator without any trouble... yet. :-/

afx wrote:

> Off to buy a new car manana then I guess.
>

Replacing a car over a RADIATOR?

Uh, that's kinda false economy, I think. Sorta like buying a new house
because the downstairs faucet drips.....

afx wrote:


>>DO NOT - REPEAT - DO NOT USE DexCool™/Prestone Extended Life™.
>>
>>Bill Putney
>>(To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
>>address with the letter 'x')
>
>
> Yikes, I think I just bought the first yellow 50/50 bottle at wally
> world.
>
> What would be the problem with using that stuff?
>

Its not compatible with materials in your cooling systems and may cause
excessive (and rapid) corrosion. Hell, even GM and Toyota have had
horrible problems with it in their vehicles that are supposedly compatible.