MIKE Hunter's smaller car thesis??

"In the latest crash figures available from 2003, provided by the Insurance
Institute for Highway Safety, there were 142 fatalities per million
registered vehicles for the smallest cars. That figure drops to 108
fatalities for the next larger class of cars. For large sedans, that number
drops to 61 per million. For small SUVs, the figure was 75 deaths per
million as compared with 62 for large SUVs. For pickups, totals increased to
124 per million for small trucks and 102 per million for large."


Technically Mike is right, but the numbers are still so low that even a half
a percent change is not very much.

Secondly, there are more small cars on the road than larger cars.

Furthermore, how many of those accidents are more deadly because a gas
hogging driver, in a large SUV, hits a small car?

So basically what Mike is asking small car owners to do is to accomidate him
because he is a pussy. So instead of buiying a 15 thousand dollar gas saver,
you should buy a 30 thousand dollar SUV (this difference is what Mike calls
"Saving a few bucks vs safety")

This way, Mike does not feel so guilty when he crushes a smaller car with
his Mormon sized family in his Chevy Tahoe!

GO Mavs wrote:

> "In the latest crash figures available from 2003, provided by the Insurance
> Institute for Highway Safety, there were 142 fatalities per million
> registered vehicles for the smallest cars. That figure drops to 108
> fatalities for the next larger class of cars. For large sedans, that number
> drops to 61 per million. For small SUVs, the figure was 75 deaths per
> million as compared with 62 for large SUVs. For pickups, totals increased to
> 124 per million for small trucks and 102 per million for large."
>
>
> Technically Mike is right, but the numbers are still so low that even a half
> a percent change is not very much.
>
> Secondly, there are more small cars on the road than larger cars.

But the statistics are for fatalities/vehicles. OTOH I want to know
how the numbers compare, once the number of miles and ages and incomes
of the drivers are considered.

larry moe 'n curly wrote:
> GO Mavs wrote:
>
>> "In the latest crash figures available from 2003, provided by the Insurance
>> Institute for Highway Safety, there were 142 fatalities per million
>> registered vehicles for the smallest cars. That figure drops to 108
>> fatalities for the next larger class of cars. For large sedans, that number
>> drops to 61 per million. For small SUVs, the figure was 75 deaths per
>> million as compared with 62 for large SUVs. For pickups, totals increased to
>> 124 per million for small trucks and 102 per million for large."
>>
>>
>> Technically Mike is right, but the numbers are still so low that even a half
>> a percent change is not very much.
>>
>> Secondly, there are more small cars on the road than larger cars.
>
> But the statistics are for fatalities/vehicles. OTOH I want to know
> how the numbers compare, once the number of miles and ages and incomes
> of the drivers are considered.

I don't think anyone has done the study that accounts for demographic
factors.

Jeff

"GO Mavs" > wrote in message
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> "In the latest crash figures available from 2003, provided by the
> Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, there were 142 fatalities per
> million registered vehicles for the smallest cars. That figure drops to
> 108 fatalities for the next larger class of cars. For large sedans, that
> number drops to 61 per million. For small SUVs, the figure was 75 deaths
> per million as compared with 62 for large SUVs. For pickups, totals
> increased to 124 per million for small trucks and 102 per million for
> large."
>
>
> Technically Mike is right, but the numbers are still so low that even a
> half a percent change is not very much.
>
> Secondly, there are more small cars on the road than larger cars.
>
> Furthermore, how many of those accidents are more deadly because a gas
> hogging driver, in a large SUV, hits a small car?
>
> So basically what Mike is asking small car owners to do is to accomidate
> him because he is a pussy. So instead of buiying a 15 thousand dollar gas
> saver, you should buy a 30 thousand dollar SUV (this difference is what
> Mike calls "Saving a few bucks vs safety")
>
> This way, Mike does not feel so guilty when he crushes a smaller car with
> his Mormon sized family in his Chevy Tahoe!


I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.

> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
====================================
There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal
liberty was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant
regulations, but they were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying
out during crashes.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:45:45 -0700, BobG > wrote:

>> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
>> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
>====================================
>There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
>trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal
>liberty was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant
>regulations, but they were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying
>out during crashes.
>

Sounds like a win-win situation to me.

BobG wrote:
>> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
>> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
> ====================================
> There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
> trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal
> liberty was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant
> regulations, but they were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying
> out during crashes.
>
>
so let them. natural selection.

On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:45:45 -0700, BobG wrote:

>> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
>> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
> ====================================
> There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
> trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal liberty
> was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant regulations, but they
> were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying out during crashes.

Evolution in action.

"Bill Ward"
, BobG wrote:
>
>>> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
>>> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
>> ====================================
>> There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
>> trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal liberty
>> was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant regulations, but they
>> were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying out during crashes.
>
> Evolution in action.
>

I live in bubba territory (North Carolina), and we just had two
ejection-from-truck accidents, and in both cases, the (belted) passengers
lived.

I saw a little kid, about a year old, *walking around* in a king cab. I
would have reported them, if I wasn't so busy watching that child and
fuming.

I don't get why *they* don't get it.

Natalie

Wickeddoll® wrote:
> "Bill Ward"
> , BobG wrote:
>>>> I'd also like to know more about what types of accidents were involved,
>>>> especially for pickups. My guess would be rollovers.
>>> ====================================
>>> There was a campaign in the US to get get the good ol boys in pickup
>>> trucks to use their seatbelts. Maybe they thought their personal liberty
>>> was being encroached on by the intrusive governmant regulations, but they
>>> were dying in disproportionate numbers by flying out during crashes.
>> Evolution in action.
>>
>
> I live in bubba territory (North Carolina), and we just had two
> ejection-from-truck accidents, and in both cases, the (belted) passengers
> lived.
>
> I saw a little kid, about a year old, *walking around* in a king cab. I
> would have reported them, if I wasn't so busy watching that child and
> fuming.
>
> I don't get why *they* don't get it.
>
> Natalie
>
>
chill babe! you're witnessing something vital to the survival of the
species! if the stupid ones kill themselves [and their kids], they will
die out. that leaves more for the rest of us!