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Old August 30th 06, 02:15 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
AJ[_4_]
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Default 92 Jetta turbo diesel oil filter question

Hi:

I got an oil change recently done by my mechanic. He always has a hard time
replacing the oil filter as he finds it too big for the little space there
is to replace it. I buy the FRAM PH 3569 from Wal-Mart. He has asked me to
check if there is a smaller version of this filter available for this
application.

I've looked up the MANN web-site and I see that the W 940/25 filter is the
one applicable for my car. It's dimensions as listed on the MANN web-site
a
Height - 142mm, Diameter - 93mm, rubber gasket outside dia - 71mm, rubber
gasket inside dia - 62mm, screw-on hole - 3/4-16 UNF. I've measured the FRAM
PH 3569 and it's height - 115mm, diameter - 92mm.

Can anyone suggest any other smaller filters that can be applicable for the
92 Jetta turbo diesel?

Thanks in advance,

AJ.
(Toronto, Ontario, Canada)


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Old August 31st 06, 01:40 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
none2u
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Default 92 Jetta turbo diesel oil filter question

There are no smaller ones. The filter design is based on the engine
requirements. There are bigger ones, There's a GM filter that has no back
flow valve in it, but its the same size. They are easy to change too. They
are easy to get off with one hand. If it wasn't previously overtightened. If
he's taking it out the top its harder. I generally take it off , flip it
over to drain in the pan, drop it out the bottom. If your mechanic is having
a hard time with a filter, I,d find another mechanic. .
"AJ" <amit at interlog dot com> wrote in message
...
> Hi:
>
> I got an oil change recently done by my mechanic. He always has a hard
> time
> replacing the oil filter as he finds it too big for the little space there
> is to replace it. I buy the FRAM PH 3569 from Wal-Mart. He has asked me to
> check if there is a smaller version of this filter available for this
> application.
>
> I've looked up the MANN web-site and I see that the W 940/25 filter is the
> one applicable for my car. It's dimensions as listed on the MANN web-site
> a
> Height - 142mm, Diameter - 93mm, rubber gasket outside dia - 71mm, rubber
> gasket inside dia - 62mm, screw-on hole - 3/4-16 UNF. I've measured the
> FRAM
> PH 3569 and it's height - 115mm, diameter - 92mm.
>
> Can anyone suggest any other smaller filters that can be applicable for
> the
> 92 Jetta turbo diesel?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> AJ.
> (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
>
>



  #3  
Old September 3rd 06, 03:19 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
Peter Parker
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Default 92 Jetta turbo diesel oil filter question

I agree with none2u. Any advantage or disadvantage with the GM filter
without the back flow valve? I never considered using a non VW filter
without the valve.

In article >,
none2u > wrote:
>There are no smaller ones. The filter design is based on the engine
>requirements. There are bigger ones, There's a GM filter that has no back
>flow valve in it, but its the same size. They are easy to change too. They
>are easy to get off with one hand. If it wasn't previously overtightened. If
>he's taking it out the top its harder. I generally take it off , flip it
>over to drain in the pan, drop it out the bottom. If your mechanic is having
>a hard time with a filter, I,d find another mechanic. .
>"AJ" <amit at interlog dot com> wrote in message
...
>> Hi:
>>
>> I got an oil change recently done by my mechanic. He always has a hard
>> time
>> replacing the oil filter as he finds it too big for the little space there
>> is to replace it. I buy the FRAM PH 3569 from Wal-Mart. He has asked me to
>> check if there is a smaller version of this filter available for this
>> application.
>>
>> I've looked up the MANN web-site and I see that the W 940/25 filter is the
>> one applicable for my car. It's dimensions as listed on the MANN web-site
>> a
>> Height - 142mm, Diameter - 93mm, rubber gasket outside dia - 71mm, rubber
>> gasket inside dia - 62mm, screw-on hole - 3/4-16 UNF. I've measured the
>> FRAM
>> PH 3569 and it's height - 115mm, diameter - 92mm.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest any other smaller filters that can be applicable for
>> the
>> 92 Jetta turbo diesel?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> AJ.
>> (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
>>
>>

>
>



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Old September 7th 06, 04:02 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
none2u
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Default 92 Jetta turbo diesel oil filter question

I don't think there's any advantage except price. When I was putting my ex
through college, and I was poorer. I found the cross reference by accident
looking through oil filter catalogs in Murray's. ( Yea I have no life.) The
Ph 3569 doesn't cross reference with this filter. But one of the filters
it cross referenced with , does cross referenced with a common GM. I think
it was an PF4 or PF 2. And that cross referenced with Murray's house
brand. Which was usually 99 cents to $1.99. So I used it because I had
options to get whatever cheap filters were on sale. So I checked them side
by side in the store, tried it and it fits. Its exactly the same size and
same threads. I showed the cross references to the Murray's guy , and they
gave me the I don't know why. But if you looked inside you could tell the
filters were different. No spring in the GM. Later, I figured out about the
back flow or bypass valve and stopped. But at the time I was changing oil
every three thousand miles and leaking , burning a quart every 500 , in a
300,000 mile rotted Rabbit. and, Putting my ex through college on $7-11
bucks an hour, 60 hours a week, in a farging foundry, Reclaiming sand for
the next days cast. So it was a good idea. And I didn't think the filter
would matter much anyway. I don't know the technicalities of VW filters.
But back flow valves keep oil in the bearings longer,when the cars shut off.
And bypass valves keep dirty oil flowing to the bearings when the filter
plugs up. Turbos don't like dirty oil or oil starvation. I guess if you
drive your car everyday, and change your oil, it won't matter. But if it
sits for a few days and drains, and you hear rattling noises when it starts,
for a second or two, well, Maybe...... its not too good an idea for a couple
of bucks.
"Peter Parker" > wrote in message
...
>I agree with none2u. Any advantage or disadvantage with the GM filter
> without the back flow valve? I never considered using a non VW filter
> without the valve.
>
> In article >,
> none2u > wrote:
>>There are no smaller ones. The filter design is based on the engine
>>requirements. There are bigger ones, There's a GM filter that has no back
>>flow valve in it, but its the same size. They are easy to change too. They
>>are easy to get off with one hand. If it wasn't previously overtightened.
>>If
>>he's taking it out the top its harder. I generally take it off , flip it
>>over to drain in the pan, drop it out the bottom. If your mechanic is
>>having
>>a hard time with a filter, I,d find another mechanic. .
>>"AJ" <amit at interlog dot com> wrote in message
...
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I got an oil change recently done by my mechanic. He always has a hard
>>> time
>>> replacing the oil filter as he finds it too big for the little space
>>> there
>>> is to replace it. I buy the FRAM PH 3569 from Wal-Mart. He has asked me
>>> to
>>> check if there is a smaller version of this filter available for this
>>> application.
>>>
>>> I've looked up the MANN web-site and I see that the W 940/25 filter is
>>> the
>>> one applicable for my car. It's dimensions as listed on the MANN
>>> web-site
>>> a
>>> Height - 142mm, Diameter - 93mm, rubber gasket outside dia - 71mm,
>>> rubber
>>> gasket inside dia - 62mm, screw-on hole - 3/4-16 UNF. I've measured the
>>> FRAM
>>> PH 3569 and it's height - 115mm, diameter - 92mm.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest any other smaller filters that can be applicable for
>>> the
>>> 92 Jetta turbo diesel?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> AJ.
>>> (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>
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> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...



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Old September 9th 06, 09:54 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.vw.watercooled
Peter Parker
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Default 92 Jetta turbo diesel oil filter question


Agree. I was going to mention the reasons of the valve but your
post has all the info needed. I just don't remember using a
filter without a valve. Interesting that there is such a thing.


In article >,
none2u > wrote:
>I don't think there's any advantage except price. When I was putting my ex
>through college, and I was poorer. I found the cross reference by accident
>looking through oil filter catalogs in Murray's. ( Yea I have no life.) The
>Ph 3569 doesn't cross reference with this filter. But one of the filters
>it cross referenced with , does cross referenced with a common GM. I think
>it was an PF4 or PF 2. And that cross referenced with Murray's house
>brand. Which was usually 99 cents to $1.99. So I used it because I had
>options to get whatever cheap filters were on sale. So I checked them side
>by side in the store, tried it and it fits. Its exactly the same size and
>same threads. I showed the cross references to the Murray's guy , and they
>gave me the I don't know why. But if you looked inside you could tell the
>filters were different. No spring in the GM. Later, I figured out about the
>back flow or bypass valve and stopped. But at the time I was changing oil
>every three thousand miles and leaking , burning a quart every 500 , in a
>300,000 mile rotted Rabbit. and, Putting my ex through college on $7-11
>bucks an hour, 60 hours a week, in a farging foundry, Reclaiming sand for
>the next days cast. So it was a good idea. And I didn't think the filter
>would matter much anyway. I don't know the technicalities of VW filters.
>But back flow valves keep oil in the bearings longer,when the cars shut off.
>And bypass valves keep dirty oil flowing to the bearings when the filter
>plugs up. Turbos don't like dirty oil or oil starvation. I guess if you
>drive your car everyday, and change your oil, it won't matter. But if it
>sits for a few days and drains, and you hear rattling noises when it starts,
>for a second or two, well, Maybe...... its not too good an idea for a couple
>of bucks.
>"Peter Parker" > wrote in message
...
>>I agree with none2u. Any advantage or disadvantage with the GM filter
>> without the back flow valve? I never considered using a non VW filter
>> without the valve.
>>
>> In article >,
>> none2u > wrote:
>>>There are no smaller ones. The filter design is based on the engine
>>>requirements. There are bigger ones, There's a GM filter that has no back
>>>flow valve in it, but its the same size. They are easy to change too. They
>>>are easy to get off with one hand. If it wasn't previously overtightened.
>>>If
>>>he's taking it out the top its harder. I generally take it off , flip it
>>>over to drain in the pan, drop it out the bottom. If your mechanic is
>>>having
>>>a hard time with a filter, I,d find another mechanic. .
>>>"AJ" <amit at interlog dot com> wrote in message
...
>>>> Hi:
>>>>
>>>> I got an oil change recently done by my mechanic. He always has a hard
>>>> time
>>>> replacing the oil filter as he finds it too big for the little space
>>>> there
>>>> is to replace it. I buy the FRAM PH 3569 from Wal-Mart. He has asked me
>>>> to
>>>> check if there is a smaller version of this filter available for this
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>> I've looked up the MANN web-site and I see that the W 940/25 filter is
>>>> the
>>>> one applicable for my car. It's dimensions as listed on the MANN
>>>> web-site
>>>> a
>>>> Height - 142mm, Diameter - 93mm, rubber gasket outside dia - 71mm,
>>>> rubber
>>>> gasket inside dia - 62mm, screw-on hole - 3/4-16 UNF. I've measured the
>>>> FRAM
>>>> PH 3569 and it's height - 115mm, diameter - 92mm.
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone suggest any other smaller filters that can be applicable for
>>>> the
>>>> 92 Jetta turbo diesel?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> AJ.
>>>> (Toronto, Ontario, Canada)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeeps and dubs and everything's nice...

>
>



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