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Old December 12th 06, 01:09 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
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"jason moyer" > wrote in message
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> Anyway, good luck with rfactor and all that. If you manage to find an
> incar video of an open wheel sim where the steering wheel movement is
> anywhere near this, let me know:
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dQsA_3sg1U


I took the Ferrari, set it up with a 2006 qualifing setup, and purposely
made a lap which is less than .1 quicker than Schumacher's 2006 pole time .
Looks identical except I ran a little wider at Alta. If you made one of
those split screen comparisons between his lap and my sim lap it would
practically be a mirror image. I'd do it myself but I don't have the
software or the know how. You're welcome to it.

You need to know that when watching a replay in rFactor that the wheel you
see on the car is set at 270 degrees. If I made a replay using 900 degrees
steering rotations with my DFP and whipping the wheel all over the place,
you'd still see very little movement in the replay on your computer. Change
the "Steering wheel range" in your controller file to about 440 and you'll
see wheel movement in a replay that more closely resembles a F1 car. Many
simmers have wheels locked at 270 degrees, and they also use a high steering
lock in their setups so the wheel doesn't move nearly as much as a real
driver's. That doesn't mean they aren't making a lot of corrections. A real
F1 driver could never use a setup like that because 4.5 G's would make it
impossible to have such a sensitive touch on the wheel.

In those videos, Schumacher and Albers made mistakes and the tires broke
loose. That's why they had to make such huge corrections. It wasn't their
technique for fast lap times. If Schumacher didn't make that msitake at
Rivazza, he would have had a faster lap. I've made a million saves like that
over the past months in CTDP F1. I have no idea why you think it's
impossible, other than your wheel isn't setup correctly and/or you have bad
setups.
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Old December 12th 06, 05:32 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jason moyer
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Dave F wrote:

> In those videos, Schumacher and Albers made mistakes and the tires broke
> loose.


Schumacher's lap is the track record at Imola.

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Old December 12th 06, 05:47 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
jason moyer
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Dave F wrote:

> I'd do it myself but I don't have the
> software or the know how. You're welcome to it.


Can you do telemetry?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk2p2nRK-p4

The comparison between Herbert and Schumacher in the middle of bridge
corner is pretty interesting. I'm highly skeptical that Schumacher's
sawing at the wheel in the middle of the corner would be a viable means
of driving an ISI F1 car, and if someone did manage to keep the car
from snap-spinning I'm guessing they wouldn't be 0.2 seconds up on
someone driving smoothly.

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Old December 13th 06, 01:15 AM posted to rec.autos.simulators
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jason moyer wrote:

> Great sim. I wish someone would make one that combined the simulation
> qualities of RBR with the gameplay from Mobil 1/RC 2000. The physics
> weren't the greatest, but the stages were heavenly.
>
> I wonder how difficult it would be to convert Mobil 1 stages over to
> Driver's Republic (the new sim from the RBR physics programmer).
> Hmmmmmmmmmm...


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