Unionized

I spent much of my adult life self-employed... I found that I am a much
better tech than I am businessman... A serious family illness put me back to
being a wage-earner and that is where I am today...

"Management rhetoric"? I honestly don't think so.... I've had at least a
couple of jobs where the status quo just didn't suit me or feel right.... In
these instances, I exercised a God given right and uttered the magic words
"next payday will be my last day".. And I have to admit that relief came
much quicker than if I'd had to offer a blow job to the shop steward.

I don't suck off anyone.... neither management nor union hack.... and I move
on - possibly to the job of my dreams...

I dropped out of school in grade 8... It was at that time that I decided to
grab my life by the horns and do something with it.... You may choose to sit
back and let others decide your fate.... Me? Both union and management can
kiss my rosy red ass.... I serve my customers.... These are the important
people in the equation. They deserve someone that is knowledgeable and has
above average skill sets....

Now - you may choose to wait for others to decide your fate.... I say screw
the union - screw management... I have the balls to take my life where I
want it to go...

Try it... you might like it


"Repairman54" > wrote in message
...
> Sounds good, hard work for fair pay.
> Until someone starts sucking off various levels of management and gets
> more than the "hard working" guy by blowing their way to success. That's
> why they call it success.
> Lets not forget the guy who the boss just doesn't like, even though he
> busts his hump and does his job well he's held back.
>
> Who's got their head full of management rhetoric?
>
> It's not what you know it's who you blow is how non union shops work,
> merits have less affect. Seen that too many times.......
> Tech for 35 yrs now and have felt the union difference for the last few.
> Fair days pay for a fair days work. Rules are the rules and equally
> enforced for all and the employee has recourse for the mgmt. dickhead who
> doesn't like his red hair or tattoo or family illness, the list is long.
> Contract spells out the raise rules for all, not just for one single
> person.
> Oh wait, that means yaw can't achieve success.......damn
> union.............
>
> Millwright boy, take it elsewhere, your preaching to the frickin
> choir..........
>
>
> > wrote in message
> news:jkUpk.7872$%b7.1360@edtnps82...
>> Wow... don't they have your head crammed full of their rhetoric....
>>
>> The union will try it's best to get you a raise.... no matter how badly
>> you do not deserve one... OTOH, many of us try to rise above our peers
>> with our talents and skills EARNING as we go...
>>
>>
>
>

wrote:
>> "Millwright Ron" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> On Aug 16, 3:31 am, > wrote:
>
>> Definition of a Union:
>
>> A combination so formed, especially an alliance or confederation of
>> people, parties, or political entities for mutual interest or
>> benefit....
>
>> If you belong to the Chamber of Commence.You belong to a Union that is
>> against raising the Minimum wage. The Chamber lobbied congress against
>> raising the Minimum wage. .
>
>> Millwright Ron
>> www.unionmillwright.com
>
>
> Wow... don't they have your head crammed full of their rhetoric....
>
> The union will try it's best to get you a raise.... no matter how badly you
> do not deserve one... OTOH, many of us try to rise above our peers with our
> talents and skills EARNING as we go...
>
>

Well if you're correct in the assumption that he is some sort of
leader, then that's to be expected.

--


"While the fringe on one side hurl epithets at the fringe
on the other side, the vast bulk of us sit here somewhere
in between asking the eternal question, "What the ****?" - TFrog93

On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:01:56 -0400, "Repairman54"
> wrote:

>Sounds good, hard work for fair pay.
>Until someone starts sucking off various levels of management and gets more
>than the "hard working" guy by blowing their way to success. That's why they
>call it success.
>Lets not forget the guy who the boss just doesn't like, even though he busts
>his hump and does his job well he's held back.
>
>Who's got their head full of management rhetoric?
>
>It's not what you know it's who you blow is how non union shops work, merits
>have less affect. Seen that too many times.......
>Tech for 35 yrs now and have felt the union difference for the last few.
>Fair days pay for a fair days work. Rules are the rules and equally enforced
>for all and the employee has recourse for the mgmt. dickhead who doesn't
>like his red hair or tattoo or family illness, the list is long.
>Contract spells out the raise rules for all, not just for one single person.
>Oh wait, that means yaw can't achieve success.......damn union.............
>
>Millwright boy, take it elsewhere, your preaching to the frickin
>choir..........
>
>
> wrote in message
>news:jkUpk.7872$%b7.1360@edtnps82...
>> Wow... don't they have your head crammed full of their rhetoric....
>>
>> The union will try it's best to get you a raise.... no matter how badly
>> you do not deserve one... OTOH, many of us try to rise above our peers
>> with our talents and skills EARNING as we go...
>>
>>
>
As my now deceased former father in law, and confirmed union man, no
union member alive ever sees the gain from a strike. Future workers
will.

When on strike for those bennies, the orker gets paid a "strike wage"
which depleats the union funds. Those funds must be replenished in
order to pay for the next strike.

Meanwhile, strike wages are not enough to pay all the bills,
especially for those on the lower end of the pay scale.

On the other hand, who do we see still living the lavish lifestyle?
The union leadership. I give them, and their predecessors credit
though. They found a way to live that life on the backs of the union
workers (and even non-union workers who are required to pay the
equivilent of union dues toward some project or another). I ask,
where is the difference between union leadership and corporate
management? It's obvious corporate management had a fiduciary
responsibility to make a profit for shareholders. Who is living off
whose labors???

If we didn't have all these unions, what would the price of a head of
lettuce be today? It all adds up. The Farm Workers, then the Truckers,
and the Grocery Workers, etc. Each has to push the price higher in
order to get their share. And who has to pay for that head of lettuce?
Along with everyone else, it's those same union workers. In place of
a head of lettuce, we could say Mustang.


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On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 16:30:45 GMT, > wrote:

>I spent much of my adult life self-employed... I found that I am a much
>better tech than I am businessman... A serious family illness put me back to
>being a wage-earner and that is where I am today...
>
SNIP
>Now - you may choose to wait for others to decide your fate.... I say screw
>the union - screw management... I have the balls to take my life where I
>want it to go...
>
>Try it... you might like it
>

Well, put. You see it wherever you go. The clerks, the managers, etc,
don't see CUSTOMERS as more than cash cows. They know their
competitors treat the customers the same, and they have driven the
small businesses that recognized that the customer is the reason they
are there, not the other way around into the ground. Gone are the days
when you walk into a business and they know you by name.

I will admit that exceptions still exist, but are getting darn hard to
find.
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I don't have any problem with the concept of Labor Unions. Problem is,
I've yet to see an equitable implementation that doesn't cheat someone
.. In my three-different-unions career, each started out as altruistic
organizations that found ways to benefit the members without
penalizing the industry/businsess; Each eventually found ways to
penalize everyone but the Union leadership, who seem to have lost
touch with their original altruism, honesty, and integrety.

I realize that three unions may not yield a statistically significant
sample, but it convinced me. I quit. The Union leadership fought
itself into oblivion, and ended up in their Caribbean retirement homes
without a constituency, but pretty pleased with what the former union
members had given them.

Seemed to me, and seems still, that the higher levels of Union
Management are like higher levels of Government: the people who arrive
there are either concealing their motives or don't recognize their own
pathology. Either way, they have feet of ****.

As for the Chamber of Commence, it's too late: they also have begun
the slide down the slippery slope.

--
Frank ess

"There are some people it is our duty to annoy."
-- Lord Reith


WindsorFox<SS> wrote:
> wrote:
>>> "Millwright Ron" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> On Aug 16, 3:31 am, > wrote:
>>
>>> Definition of a Union:
>>
>>> A combination so formed, especially an alliance or confederation
>>> of people, parties, or political entities for mutual interest or
>>> benefit....
>>
>>> If you belong to the Chamber of Commence.You belong to a Union
>>> that is against raising the Minimum wage. The Chamber lobbied
>>> congress against raising the Minimum wage. .
>>
>>> Millwright Ron
>>> www.unionmillwright.com
>>
>>
>> Wow... don't they have your head crammed full of their rhetoric....
>>
>> The union will try it's best to get you a raise.... no matter how
>> badly you do not deserve one... OTOH, many of us try to rise above
>> our peers with our talents and skills EARNING as we go...
>>
>>
>
> Well if you're correct in the assumption that he is some sort of
> leader, then that's to be expected.

Power corrupts..... absolute power corrupts absolutely...

Locks were not invented to keep thieves at bay.... they were invented to
keep honest men honest.

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:38:28 GMT, > wrote:

>Power corrupts..... absolute power corrupts absolutely...
>
>Locks were not invented to keep thieves at bay.... they were invented to
>keep honest men honest.
>
>

Along with the S&W revolver... the first point and click input device.
:0)

And, now a word or two to our newest members with their pro union
propaganda*......

You have been Kill Filed.... I guess that proves that unions do result
in violence and killing. :0)

*Propaganda is NOT lying. Propaganda is the truth told with a twist in
favor of the person using it. Perhaps that explains why union
leadership influences the workers in the same way governments
influence citizens. You don't have to join the union, but, if you
don't, you'll wish you were working somewhere else. Kinda like being
the only Conservative professor at a university. You sure know how
General Custer felt.
--

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