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"My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."



 
 
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  #21  
Old July 23rd 06, 03:10 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.sport.nascar,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
Popeye
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."



"gringo" > wrote in message
...

>> A 17 year old girl, that the Bush family didn't even know, ran a stop
>> sign, and accidentally killed someone.
>>
>>

>
> She was still part of a wealthy family, a family with connections. Rich
> Democrats and rich Republican lawmakers are both treated the same way.


Don't you have kids, Gringo?

Think those anti-war protesters (of which you are one) should have your
kids jailed for murder for their service in Iraq?

Think of all those innocent Iraqi deaths your kids contribute to.

War criminals, in the eyes of the majority of the world.



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  #22  
Old July 23rd 06, 07:42 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
P.Roehling
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."


"Popeye" > wrote

>> Odd you should say that, as there is a perfectly obvious parallel:
>> well-off white folks don't generally go to jail unless they've done
>> something like kill a judge.

>
>
> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence, as a
> 17 year old?
>
> And did she deserve to go to jail?
>
> Or are you just a bigoted, biased asshole?


No, just a guy who's lot smarter and more experienced than you.

Sorry about your mental problems.


  #23  
Old July 23rd 06, 07:55 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
Popeye
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."



"P.Roehling" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Popeye" > wrote
>
>>> Odd you should say that, as there is a perfectly obvious parallel:
>>> well-off white folks don't generally go to jail unless they've done
>>> something like kill a judge.

>>
>>
>> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence, as a
>> 17 year old?
>>
>> And did she deserve to go to jail?
>>
>> Or are you just a bigoted, biased asshole?

>
> No, just a guy who's lot smarter and more experienced than you.
>
> Sorry about your mental problems.



So you claim.

Too bad about not being able to address your point, though.
--

Popeye
I like to listen. I have learned a great deal from listening
carefully. Most people never listen. -Hemingway


  #24  
Old July 24th 06, 02:24 AM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
HeyBub
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."

Popeye wrote:
> "P.Roehling" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Popeye" > wrote
>>
>>>> Kind of reminds me of a little place called Chappaquiddick and a
>>>> fella name Teddy.
>>>
>>> Dude, if you can draw any parallel between the two incidents, you
>>> need to stop huffing the model glue.

>>
>> Odd you should say that, as there is a perfectly obvious parallel:
>> well-off white folks don't generally go to jail unless they've done
>> something like kill a judge.

>
>
> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence,
> as a 17 year old?


No, I wasn't. Even so, so what?

>
> And did she deserve to go to jail?


Of course not, especially if she was well off and had political influence.



  #25  
Old July 24th 06, 05:43 AM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
Popeye
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."



"HeyBub" > wrote in message
...
> Popeye wrote:
>> "P.Roehling" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Popeye" > wrote
>>>
>>>>> Kind of reminds me of a little place called Chappaquiddick and a
>>>>> fella name Teddy.
>>>>
>>>> Dude, if you can draw any parallel between the two incidents, you
>>>> need to stop huffing the model glue.
>>>
>>> Odd you should say that, as there is a perfectly obvious parallel:
>>> well-off white folks don't generally go to jail unless they've done
>>> something like kill a judge.

>>
>>
>> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence,
>> as a 17 year old?

>
> No, I wasn't. Even so, so what?


It's good that so many can read for context and comprehension

>> And did she deserve to go to jail?

>
> Of course not, especially if she was well off and had political influence.


Which makes her automatically guilty, I take it?

--

Popeye
I like to listen. I have learned a great deal from listening
carefully. Most people never listen. -Hemingway


  #26  
Old July 24th 06, 03:04 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
HeyBub
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."

Popeye wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence,
>>> as a 17 year old?

>>
>> No, I wasn't. Even so, so what?

>
> It's good that so many can read for context and comprehension


I agree. The more literate people we have, the better off we'll all be.

>
>>> And did she deserve to go to jail?

>>
>> Of course not, especially if she was well off and had political
>> influence.

>
> Which makes her automatically guilty, I take it?


Well, in the sense that power and position have should have an effect on the
outcome of the trial, her place in society would mitigate against a finding
of guilty.


  #27  
Old July 24th 06, 04:13 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
Popeye
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innis said. "He didn't."



"HeyBub" > wrote in message
...
> Popeye wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence,
>>>> as a 17 year old?
>>>
>>> No, I wasn't. Even so, so what?

>>
>> It's good that so many can read for context and comprehension

>
> I agree. The more literate people we have, the better off we'll all be.


Our cup seems to runneth over.

>>>> And did she deserve to go to jail?
>>>
>>> Of course not, especially if she was well off and had political
>>> influence.

>>
>> Which makes her automatically guilty, I take it?

>
> Well, in the sense that power and position have should have an effect on
> the outcome of the trial, her place in society would mitigate against a
> finding of guilty.


-If- she had that power and position as a 17 year old.

-If- she had a place in society in 1963.

-If- she had a trial.

-If- she had been guilty of anything to begin with.

You guys have judged -and- sentenced her both on incorrect information,
and because of who her husband is 40 years later.

True students of the Constitution.


--

Popeye
I like to listen. I have learned a great deal from listening
carefully. Most people never listen. -Hemingway


  #28  
Old July 24th 06, 10:47 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.sport.nascar,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
gringo
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innissaid. "He didn't."

Popeye wrote:
> "gringo" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>>> A 17 year old girl, that the Bush family didn't even know, ran a stop
>>> sign, and accidentally killed someone.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> She was still part of a wealthy family, a family with connections. Rich
>> Democrats and rich Republican lawmakers are both treated the same way.
>>

>
> Don't you have kids, Gringo?
>
> Think those anti-war protesters (of which you are one) should have your
> kids jailed for murder for their service in Iraq?
>
> Think of all those innocent Iraqi deaths your kids contribute to.
>
> War criminals, in the eyes of the majority of the world.
>
>
>


Popeye, off topic. But okay. Honorable service, whether for the cops
or the military, should be honored, and is. The few who sink into the
slime of murder and rape should be punished, and are--if some honorable
someone who happened to be accompanying the scumbags squeals about it to
the Press.

It's like with truckers: let one trucker run a 4-wheeler off the road,
and suddenly all truckers are roadhogs. Soldiers are human, like
everyone else. In every population subgroup, there'll be a few who
should have been aborted. Some truckers shouldn't be permitted to sit
behind a driver's seat; some soldiers should not be permitted to carry
an unloaded BB gun.

My daughter has left the Navy, but her new husband left this morning for
another tour of the Middle East. My daughter was one of the honorable
ones: when she received orders to report to Guantanamo and become a
prison guard, she opted out of her reenlistment.

--
*fas-cism* (fash'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.
-- The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983



"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is...I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."
------George W. Bush to the Houston Chronicle, April 9th, 1999
  #29  
Old July 24th 06, 10:50 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
gringo
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innissaid. "He didn't."

Popeye wrote:
> "HeyBub" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Popeye wrote:
>>
>>> "P.Roehling" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> "Popeye" > wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Kind of reminds me of a little place called Chappaquiddick and a
>>>>>> fella name Teddy.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Dude, if you can draw any parallel between the two incidents, you
>>>>> need to stop huffing the model glue.
>>>>>
>>>> Odd you should say that, as there is a perfectly obvious parallel:
>>>> well-off white folks don't generally go to jail unless they've done
>>>> something like kill a judge.
>>>>
>>> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence,
>>> as a 17 year old?
>>>

>> No, I wasn't. Even so, so what?
>>

>
> It's good that so many can read for context and comprehension
>
>
>>> And did she deserve to go to jail?
>>>

>> Of course not, especially if she was well off and had political influence.
>>

>
> Which makes her automatically guilty, I take it?
>
>


No, in our court system, that would make her automatically innocent.
And if convicted, she'd have been sentenced to the country clubs
reserved for people like ken lay and his henchman Skilling.

--
*fas-cism* (fash'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.
-- The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983



"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is...I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."
------George W. Bush to the Houston Chronicle, April 9th, 1999
  #30  
Old July 24th 06, 11:23 PM posted to rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving,misc.transport.trucking,tx.guns
gringo
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Default "My daughter had a right to be on the road that night," Innissaid. "He didn't."

Popeye wrote:
> "HeyBub" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Popeye wrote:
>>
>>>>> Are you aware that she was well off, and with political influence,
>>>>> as a 17 year old?
>>>>>
>>>> No, I wasn't. Even so, so what?
>>>>
>>> It's good that so many can read for context and comprehension
>>>

>> I agree. The more literate people we have, the better off we'll all be.
>>

>
> Our cup seems to runneth over.
>
>
>>>>> And did she deserve to go to jail?
>>>>>
>>>> Of course not, especially if she was well off and had political
>>>> influence.
>>>>
>>> Which makes her automatically guilty, I take it?
>>>

>> Well, in the sense that power and position have should have an effect on
>> the outcome of the trial, her place in society would mitigate against a
>> finding of guilty.
>>

>
> -If- she had that power and position as a 17 year old.
>
>



Her age doesn't preclude power and influence. Her boyfriend George at
17 was the grandson of Precott Bush, war profiteer extraordinaire; son
of George, senator and future CIA chief and future vice presidency and
future president.

> -If- she had a place in society in 1963.
>
> -If- she had a trial.
>



If she had been the daughter of a working man, having run a stop sign
and thereby having killed,
she would have gone to trial.

> -If- she had been guilty of anything to begin with.
>



She ran a stop sign; she killed.

An unfortunate accident, yes. but people go to prison every day for
involvement for even lesser lapses in judgment.
> You guys have judged -and- sentenced her both on incorrect information,
> and because of who her husband is 40 years later.
>


There is in fact some small reason for suspicious minds to suspect that
Laura purposely ran the stop sign in order to strike the Chevy Corvair
driven by her ex-boyfriend, Michael Douglas. According to friends,
Laura was quite distraught over the break-up and his subsequent
relationship with a girl who had once been her best friend. Now, I
don't claim it was murder. It should have been seriously investigated,
however.


We'll never know for certain, will we--because her family's connections
precluded any serious investigation.



> True students of the Constitution.
>
>
>


Yes.



--
*fas-cism* (fash'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.
-- The American Heritage Dictionary, 1983



"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is...I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."
------George W. Bush to the Houston Chronicle, April 9th, 1999
 




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