Hybrid Lovers Read This and Lament

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:29:06 -0500, "Terry" > wrote:

top posting corrected by snipping entire post...

>God Bless the Unions, otherwise we would all be making what the Illegal
>Immigrants are making and the cost of living would still be the same !! The
>Unions brought up wages all across the country, both union and non-union
>companies !!!!

Yes, and now after having helped the American worker to gain
reasonable work hours and wages, they are now killing the American
worker's jobs by driving companies out of business. Good thing we
have unions to steal, I mean tax, our hard earned money.

DTJ wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:29:06 -0500, "Terry" > wrote:
>
> top posting corrected by snipping entire post...
>
>
>>God Bless the Unions, otherwise we would all be making what the Illegal
>>Immigrants are making and the cost of living would still be the same !! The
>>Unions brought up wages all across the country, both union and non-union
>>companies !!!!
>
>
> Yes, and now after having helped the American worker to gain
> reasonable work hours and wages, they are now killing the American
> worker's jobs by driving companies out of business. Good thing we
> have unions to steal, I mean tax, our hard earned money.

It really depends how you define reasonable wages. In the cost of
building a new car, approx 30% is for raw materials and 70% is labor
costs and health insurnace alone adds about 1500 dollars to the price of
each new car from GM. The bubble is bursting and time to pay the piper
and get runaway costs under control.

"TheSnoMan" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> DTJ wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:29:06 -0500, "Terry" > wrote:
> >
> > top posting corrected by snipping entire post...
> >
> >
> >>God Bless the Unions, otherwise we would all be making what the Illegal
> >>Immigrants are making and the cost of living would still be the same !!
The
> >>Unions brought up wages all across the country, both union and non-union
> >>companies !!!!
> >
> >
> > Yes, and now after having helped the American worker to gain
> > reasonable work hours and wages, they are now killing the American
> > worker's jobs by driving companies out of business. Good thing we
> > have unions to steal, I mean tax, our hard earned money.
>
> It really depends how you define reasonable wages. In the cost of
> building a new car, approx 30% is for raw materials and 70% is labor
> costs and health insurnace alone adds about 1500 dollars to the price of
> each new car from GM. The bubble is bursting and time to pay the piper
> and get runaway costs under control.

OK.......if raw materials is 30% and Labor is 70%, I guess all other costs
of doing business is free....right?
What a loon...........

Dave

"I guess all other costs of doing business is free....right? "

*lol* There would appear to be many costs of production not accounted
for in that oversimplified formula!

> It really depends how you define reasonable wages. In the cost of
> building a new car, approx 30% is for raw materials and 70% is labor
> costs and health insurnace alone adds about 1500 dollars to the price of
> each new car from GM. The bubble is bursting and time to pay the piper
> and get runaway costs under control.

100% for development, management and profits
On top of everything add marketing at least 200%


300 raw materials
700 labor
1.000 development, management and profits
4.000 marketing and sales
-----------
6.000

The more expensive the car the more is the relative cost of marketing
and profits


500 raw materials
1.000 labor
4.500 development, management and profits
14.000 marketing and sales
-----------
20.000

In article >,
"Hairy" > wrote:

> OK.......if raw materials is 30% and Labor is 70%, I guess all other costs
> of doing business is free....right?
> What a loon...........

With a complete analysis all costs are labor.

> With a complete analysis all costs are labor.

Welll...

Raw materials and fuel is hardly all labor

Most of the costs are sales, marketing, profiteering

The prices can theoretically come down quite a lot

The price of oil is one of the cost most obvious to the ordinary
customers

The use of alternative energy is obviously favored by the high costs of
oil

For last thirty 30 years we have been getting warnings that the prices
of oil would be going up steeply but most people have ignored it

Finally now the price of oil is noticable for most people

There have been alternatives available for a long time but they are
still a long way off at replacing oil altogether but it seems that the
higher costs now will speed things up

The old companies rely on inertia and slow changes

The old companies management have missed out on doing these neccessary
changes and there is also a question of the authorities to help create
the infrastructure for the new energies

The authorities should put a lot of taxes on oil and stimulate use of
fuel cells

If they did that the changes will go even quicker and the need to
invade more countries to get more oil would be less

Invading countries for oil??!! You've been listening to the wrong people!!!


> wrote in message
oups.com...
>> With a complete analysis all costs are labor.
>
> Welll...
>
> Raw materials and fuel is hardly all labor
>
> Most of the costs are sales, marketing, profiteering
>
> The prices can theoretically come down quite a lot
>
> The price of oil is one of the cost most obvious to the ordinary
> customers
>
> The use of alternative energy is obviously favored by the high costs of
> oil
>
> For last thirty 30 years we have been getting warnings that the prices
> of oil would be going up steeply but most people have ignored it
>
> Finally now the price of oil is noticable for most people
>
> There have been alternatives available for a long time but they are
> still a long way off at replacing oil altogether but it seems that the
> higher costs now will speed things up
>
> The old companies rely on inertia and slow changes
>
> The old companies management have missed out on doing these neccessary
> changes and there is also a question of the authorities to help create
> the infrastructure for the new energies
>
> The authorities should put a lot of taxes on oil and stimulate use of
> fuel cells
>
> If they did that the changes will go even quicker and the need to
> invade more countries to get more oil would be less
>

Shayne wrote:

> Invading countries for oil??!! You've been listening to the wrong people!!!

Maybe, but I am more inclined to think Bush set the whole thing up
because Saddam ****ed him off. On top of that, there was no question
that the US had the "shock and awe" to beat up on them.

>
>
> > wrote in message
> oups.com...
> >> With a complete analysis all costs are labor.
> >
> > Welll...
> >
> > Raw materials and fuel is hardly all labor
> >
> > Most of the costs are sales, marketing, profiteering
> >
> > The prices can theoretically come down quite a lot
> >
> > The price of oil is one of the cost most obvious to the ordinary
> > customers
> >
> > The use of alternative energy is obviously favored by the high costs of
> > oil
> >
> > For last thirty 30 years we have been getting warnings that the prices
> > of oil would be going up steeply but most people have ignored it
> >
> > Finally now the price of oil is noticable for most people
> >
> > There have been alternatives available for a long time but they are
> > still a long way off at replacing oil altogether but it seems that the
> > higher costs now will speed things up
> >
> > The old companies rely on inertia and slow changes
> >
> > The old companies management have missed out on doing these neccessary
> > changes and there is also a question of the authorities to help create
> > the infrastructure for the new energies
> >
> > The authorities should put a lot of taxes on oil and stimulate use of
> > fuel cells
> >
> > If they did that the changes will go even quicker and the need to
> > invade more countries to get more oil would be less
> >

In the name of the father the son invaded to get the whole of the
oilghost