'67 VW Crusing Speed

I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my VW.
It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have aftermarket
chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than stock. I also
don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about 100 lbs of gear. So,
for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few hills during the summer,
what is a safe cruising speed for the engine? I drove it 350 miles straight
from Tucson to far West Texas at about 62/63 mph it over 100 degree
temperature last year. Didn't seem to hurt it. So what do you think?


ilaab

On Feb 20, 1:55*pm, "ilaab" > wrote:
> I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my VW.
> It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. *I have aftermarket
> chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than stock. *I also
> don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about 100 lbs of gear. *So,
> for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few hills during the summer,
> what is a safe cruising speed for the engine? *I drove it 350 miles straight
> from Tucson to far West Texas at about 62/63 mph it over 100 degree
> temperature last year. *Didn't seem to hurt it. *So what do you think?
>
> ilaab

Go for it.

Randy

I drove my 63 Bus with 1600SP from DFW to Tuscon, AZ (Jerome Jamboree) and
kept it between 65 and 70 on the highway for pretty much the whole trip. It
was in the upper 90s for the whole trip. No problems except a blowout on the
continental divide on the return trip. I was very glad to be out of the bus
when I got home though!
Andy

> wrote in message
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On Feb 20, 1:55 pm, "ilaab" > wrote:
> I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my
> VW.
> It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have aftermarket
> chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than stock. I also
> don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about 100 lbs of gear.
> So,
> for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few hills during the summer,
> what is a safe cruising speed for the engine? I drove it 350 miles
> straight
> from Tucson to far West Texas at about 62/63 mph it over 100 degree
> temperature last year. Didn't seem to hurt it. So what do you think?
>
> ilaab

Go for it.

Randy

I drove to Iowa and towed a '64 Bug back to Chicago with my stock '67 Bug
Convertible at highway speeds and hills were involved. 8^)
I had no problems.
I did make sure my engine was in tune though.

You should have no problems! ;-)
--
later,
(One out of many daves)

"ilaab" > wrote in message
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>I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my VW.
>It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have aftermarket
>chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than stock. I also
>don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about 100 lbs of gear.
>So, for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few hills during the
>summer, what is a safe cruising speed for the engine? I drove it 350 miles
>straight from Tucson to far West Texas at about 62/63 mph it over 100
>degree temperature last year. Didn't seem to hurt it. So what do you
>think?
>
>
> ilaab

>
> "ilaab" > wrote in message
> ...
>>I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my
>>VW. It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have
>>aftermarket chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than
>>stock. I also don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about 100
>>lbs of gear. So, for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few hills
>>during the summer, what is a safe cruising speed for the engine? I drove
>>it 350 miles straight from Tucson to far West Texas at about 62/63 mph it
>>over 100 degree temperature last year. Didn't seem to hurt it. So what
>>do you think?
>>
>>
>> ilaab
>
>

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"ilaab" > wrote in message
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>I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my VW.
>It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have aftermarket
>chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than stock. I also
>don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about 100 lbs of gear.
>So, for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few hills during the
>summer, what is a safe cruising speed for the engine? I drove it 350 miles
>straight from Tucson to far West Texas at about 62/63 mph it over 100
>degree temperature last year. Didn't seem to hurt it. So what do you
>think?
>
>
> ilaab
Thanks all for the advice. Also related, what is the redline for just a
regular everyday 1600 SP? Myspeedo was replaced with a later year model
which has an electric fuel gauge. I wouldn't mind finding some tach which
would match the mechanical fuel gauge to the right of the speedo.

ilaab

On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:19:52 +0100, ilaab > wrote:

>
> "ilaab" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my
>> VW. It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have
>> aftermarket chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider
>> than stock. I also don't have a tach and other than me, I will have
>> about 100 lbs of gear. So, for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down
>> a few hills during the summer, what is a safe cruising speed for the
>> engine? I drove it 350 miles straight from Tucson to far West Texas at
>> about 62/63 mph it over 100 degree temperature last year. Didn't seem
>> to hurt it. So what do you think?
>>
>>
>> ilaab
> Thanks all for the advice. Also related, what is the redline for just a
> regular everyday 1600 SP? Myspeedo was replaced with a later year model
> which has an electric fuel gauge. I wouldn't mind finding some tach
> which would match the mechanical fuel gauge to the right of the speedo.
>
> ilaab

You will not be able to over-rev it in the traditional sense due to the induction design.
The optimal shift points are however lower than the maximum revs. If you download the manual it was linked to earlier you should be able to find it there.

J.

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If he had not had stock intake/exhausts, though, he probably could over
rev... right? Also, doesn't the main bearing get pounded out if you
keep the revs up a lot over the years (just speculation on my part)? I
know that my '65 doesn't start as fast/run as smoothly for a while after
I have driven 20 or so miles at 70 (stock 40 hp/stock tranny/etc).
Matter of fact during break in, when I tended to go about 50 and could
not accelerate fast it was VERY happy and returned 45 mpg.
KWW
'65 Beetle - The Inside Out Cow
'64 Beetle

P.J.Berg wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:19:52 +0100, ilaab > wrote:
>
>>
>> "ilaab" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for
>>> my VW. It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have
>>> aftermarket chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider
>>> than stock. I also don't have a tach and other than me, I will have
>>> about 100 lbs of gear. So, for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and
>>> down a few hills during the summer, what is a safe cruising speed for
>>> the engine? I drove it 350 miles straight from Tucson to far West
>>> Texas at about 62/63 mph it over 100 degree temperature last year.
>>> Didn't seem to hurt it. So what do you think?
>>>
>>>
>>> ilaab
>> Thanks all for the advice. Also related, what is the redline for just
>> a regular everyday 1600 SP? Myspeedo was replaced with a later year
>> model which has an electric fuel gauge. I wouldn't mind finding some
>> tach which would match the mechanical fuel gauge to the right of the
>> speedo.
>>
>> ilaab
>
> You will not be able to over-rev it in the traditional sense due to the
> induction design.
> The optimal shift points are however lower than the maximum revs. If you
> download the manual it was linked to earlier you should be able to find
> it there.
>
> J.
>

It would be a good idea to add an oil temperature gauge. It'll cost you
about $45; you can probably get it cheaper on Ebay. The faster you go,
the more the oil temp rises. As the temp exceeds 230F you risk engine
damage -- case warpage, burnt valves. I have read that the optimum
operating oil temp for a VW is 180 to 210.

On a stock car you would have to research where to add the sender to the
case. My VW has a VDO gauge and sender. Since I have a remote oil
filter, I put the sender in a brass T between the oil pump and the filter.

Having an engine in good tune: valves adjusted, correct timing, good
compression reading, un-dirty air filter, engine and spark plug seals in
place, will help keep the temps down. If you drive it above 65 mph in
100F you may not notice any problems by the end of the trip but you may
have shortened the life of some of the parts.

Randall


ilaab wrote:
> I will be going on a small trip for me but a seemingly long trip for my
> VW. It has a single port 1600, appearing to be all stock. I have
> aftermarket chrome half moons but the tires are just a little wider than
> stock. I also don't have a tach and other than me, I will have about
> 100 lbs of gear. So, for this 200 mile trip(one way) up and down a few
> hills during the summer, what is a safe cruising speed for the engine?
> I drove it 350 miles straight from Tucson to far West Texas at about
> 62/63 mph it over 100 degree temperature last year. Didn't seem to hurt
> it. So what do you think?
>
>
> ilaab

"Randall" > wrote in message
m...
> It would be a good idea to add an oil temperature gauge.


This one just happens to have an oil temp gauge but it stays mainly at 120.
I have seen it get up to around 180 last summer but only at an idle after
some freeway driving. Also, I'm pretty sure this has no special oil cooling
devices added.

ilaab