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is250 vs. 325i
"Richard Sexton" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > Elmo P. Shagnasty > wrote: > >In article >, > > (Richard Sexton) wrote: > > > >> >screams something way different than a Corolla...) > >> > >> Yeah it screams "look at me I look a lot like a Mercedes > >> but use even more expsneive Toyota parts that aren't > >> engineered to last decades". What a deal. > > > >Ah. As opposed to even more expensive Mercedes parts that aren't > >engineered to last any more than a few years. > > > >Face it--M-B ain't what it used to be. > > I'll be the first to admit that, I don't have much confidence in the new > cars. But if you can afford a Maybach you probably don't care. > > I did see an old 240Z yeterday but the point remains you don't see many > old Japanese cars. I imagine getting parts for them might be an issue but > I'm just guessing. > > Ironically the motor in that 240Z is a copy of the MB 6 from that era. > Actually, the old 240Z from 1970-73 had a 2.4 liter engine that was bulletproof. It was a larger version of the engine used in the old Datsun 510 (1968-73). The main problem with those old Datsuns wasn't the engine or lack of parts, but that the steel body on them were so thin that most rusted out, even here in California. In general, Toyota/Lexus may be a bit more reliable than BMW. However, you buy a BMW for the way it drives. If you don't notice a difference or can't appreciate it, then get the Toyota. Btw, if you look under the hood of a Lexus, most parts say Toyota, so yes, it is a TOYOTA! |
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is250 vs. 325i
I would forget the IS 250 and 325I and look at the IS 350 and 330I. I went
through the same decision and ended up with the IS 350. The 330I was a very nice looking car and had the best ride of anything that I have driven, but the IS 350 has lots of power and lots of cool gadgets. The IS 350 also has a very good ride, and since I spend most of my driving time stuck in traffic, the curve handling performance is not important. It is also cool to turn on the Power button, disable the VDIM, and smoke your tires in the IS 350! "Robert A. Cibiras" > wrote in message . .. >I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have narrowed the most likely >possible replacements to the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual >transmission. > > I am interested in whatever input anyone might have. I have owned a number > of Toyotas over the years, but no Lexus and no BMW. > > I have heard that Lexus takes Toyota's quality and attention to detail to > the next level, and that in the long run BMW is very expensive to > maintain. I have friends who own both - and swear they wouldn't drive > anything else. > > Suggestions, pros, cons, all info would be appreciated. > > Many thanks. > > Robert > > |
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E Brown wrote:
> > > According to Edmunds.com, the cost per mile for the 2003 Lexus IS > 300 is .60 cents, while a 2003 330i is .63 cents, averaged over 5 > years of ownership while driving 15,000 miles/year. > epbrown ....which, considering the method of acquiring the data, is statistically insignificant. -- -Fred W |
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German car? no thanks (was is250 vs. 325i)
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article >, > Elmo P. Shagnasty > wrote: > >>Now *try* to find a Honda or Toyota, either low brand or high brand, no >>matter how old, with non-working tail lights. Good luck. > > > You're saying the bulbs never blow on Japanese cars? They must be > different Hondas and Toyotas we get in London... > well, actually, now-a-days they don't use bulbs at all. L.E.D.s -- -Fred W |
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article >, > "bfd" > wrote: > > >>Btw, if you look under the hood of a Lexus, most parts say Toyota, so yes, >>it is a TOYOTA! > > > Look under the hood of a Benz and the parts all say Daimler-Chrysler. > > So they're nothing but Chryslers. Interesting... > Yeah. What's your point? Does this somehow relate to a BMW? Good thing most of us in the lexus and bmw newsgroups don't give a rats behind about MBs... -- -Fred W |
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German car? no thanks (was is250 vs. 325i)
In article >,
Fred W > wrote: > >>Now *try* to find a Honda or Toyota, either low brand or high brand, no > >>matter how old, with non-working tail lights. Good luck. > > > > > > You're saying the bulbs never blow on Japanese cars? They must be > > different Hondas and Toyotas we get in London... > > > well, actually, now-a-days they don't use bulbs at all. L.E.D.s All cars? They may look like LEDs but often aren't. And are usually restricted to top of range models. -- *Who are these kids and why are they calling me Mom? Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Robert A. Cibiras wrote: > I am interested in trading my Acura TL, and have > narrowed the most likely possible replacements to > the Lexus is250 and the BMW 325i, both with manual > transmission. Go with the Lexus. Trust me. If I had it to do over again, I would never have bought this German car. I will NEVER buy another German car. ----- Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1, Israel's favor. Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1. --------- http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html ---------- "Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001 -- Cliff |
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Floyd Rogers wrote: > > I don't know why people say that BMWs are expensive to maintain. As far as parts prices, BMW parts are really no more expensive than for any other make, as far as my observations are concerned. The problem with BMW is reliability. Except for the engines (which may be the best in the world), BMW owners can expect failures in other systems, and often. ----- Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1, Israel's favor. Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1. --------- http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html ---------- "Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001 -- Cliff |
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Richard Sexton wrote: > In article >, > Floyd Rogers > wrote: > >I don't know why people say that BMWs are expensive to maintain. > > This is the way my father in law explained it to me 30 years ago: "the > Germans are quite up front about maintenance costs. The Japanese want you > to believe their cars are cheaspre cheap to maintain but in reality they cost > about the same". My Japanese cars have been *exceedingly* inexpensive to maintain, and as reliable as an anvil. ----- Kill ratio of Palestinian children to Israeli children 5.7-to-1, Israel's favor. Kill ratio of all Palestinians to Israelis: over 3-to-1. --------- http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/print/mear01_.html ---------- "Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." ---Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 2001 -- Cliff |
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