I now understand the appeal of pickup trucks

In article <2%eaf.534830$xm3.325046@attbi_s21>, says...

>Yes, a full size pickup truck would make a great city vehicle.

not really. They suck up a lot of gas. You will pass up a lot of parking
spots looking for one to fit in. Many pedestrians will treat the bed like
a garbage bin and toss stuff in there.
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Alex

Same reason they chop the roof on cars...

Snow...

"Old Wolf" > wrote in message
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> Ad absurdum per aspera wrote:
>> Thankfully "slammed" mini-trucks, inevitably shod with radical
>> dry-road perfomance rubber, have gone somewhat out of fashion.
>
> That reminds me of something I saw at a car show last week.
> There were several "chopped" pickups. Apparently the idea is
> to buy a 60-year-old pickup, remove the roof, and reattach it
> lower down. This obviously involves getting a custom windshield
> and back window. The end result is a smaller vechicle with less
> headroom and poorer visibility. Why do people do this?
>

"223rem" > wrote in message
news:_Tnaf.505985$x96.57735@attbi_s72...
> C. E. White wrote:
>> "223rem" > wrote in message
>> news:2%eaf.534830$xm3.325046@attbi_s21...
>>
>>>I had the opportunity to drive a F150 for a week. Acceleration,
>>>braking and cornering suck, but it has at least three major advantages
>>>over cars:
>>
>>
>> I am not sure which F150 you drove, or what you considering "sucking" in
>> terms of acceleration, however, the latest F150 Consumer Reports tested
>> did
>> 0-6 in 8.4 seconds and completed their avoidance maneuver at 45.5 mph.
>> The
>> last Camry they tested had a 0-60 of 9.7 sec, but did do a little better
>> in
>> the avoidance maneuver test (50 mph). Probably the pick-up could have
>> handled a little better with some weight in the rear (although the 0-60
>> would suffer).
>
> I drove the 6 cyl version, very low power and torque for its weight.

The six cylinder is rated 202hp / 260 ft lb vs 231 hp / 293 ft lb for the
4.6L V8 and 300 hp / 365 ft lb for th e5.4L V-8. The 6 cylinder is not a
popular option, so it makes no sense for CR to test it. When I was looking
at pick-up last year I could not find a single V-6 F150 (or Tundra for that
matter). I assume you have to special order one. Seems like a truck for a
parts delivery company who is not hauling much. It doesn't even have a fuel
economy advantage over the 4.6L V-8 and only 1 mpg advantage over the 5.4L.
I am surprised you could even find one try.

> CR probably tested the V8 F150 and the 4 cyl Camry. No surprise here,
> they're idiots.

They tested the most popular version of each. More than 60% of all Camrys
are sold with 4 cylinders. Why does testing what people actually buy make
them idiots?

Ed

On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:51:54 -0500, Paul. > was
understood to have stated the following:

>
>> Let's stop the criminal coddling and throw you in jail next.
>
>Let's do the job right the first time: all we need is a tall tree and a
>strong piece of rope.

Really. As much as Aunt Judy enjoys bath houses, it would have a blast
being back in prison again.


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Sir Lex wrote:

> Harry K wrote:
> > 223rem wrote:
> >
> >>I had the opportunity to drive a F150 for a week. Acceleration,
> >>braking and cornering suck, but it has at least three major advantages
> >>over cars:
> >>
> >>1. You dont have to worry about potholes (or speed bumps any more;
> >>sure, sporty suspension, low ground clearance, alloy wheels and
> >>low profile tires are great on the interstate, but on bad roads
> >>you have be very careful and that gets old quickly.
> >>
> >>2. You can get the LLBs to move out of your way: nothing like
> >>a big pickup on their bumper, headlights in their mirror to convince
> >>them to move right.
> >>
> >>3. People think twice about cutting you off or tailgating.
> >>
> >>Yes, a full size pickup truck would make a great city vehicle.
> >
> >
> > They're best when at least 8 years old, beat up bed and at least one
> > quarter panel a different color.
> >
> > Harry K
> >
>
> Even better with one of these
>
> <http://www4.tpgi.com.au/users/malking/18.jpg>

Is that 'roo' catcher ?

Graham

Old Wolf wrote:
> Ad absurdum per aspera wrote:
> > Thankfully "slammed" mini-trucks, inevitably shod with radical
> > dry-road perfomance rubber, have gone somewhat out of fashion.
>
> That reminds me of something I saw at a car show last week.
> There were several "chopped" pickups. Apparently the idea is
> to buy a 60-year-old pickup, remove the roof, and reattach it
> lower down. This obviously involves getting a custom windshield
> and back window. The end result is a smaller vechicle with less
> headroom and poorer visibility. Why do people do this?

'cause it looks cool. Kind of an extension of the 50's/60's custom car
scene, except instead of '49 Mercs and Loewy coupes they're now cutting
up old pickups. Dunno why... *shrugs*

As for visibility, most older cars can be safely chopped a couple
inches at least without the driver ever noticing.

nate

On 2 Nov 2005 22:07:49 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> was understood to have stated the following:

>
>Nope - the nut asked for it.

Ah, by this retarded logic, it's legal to rob a bank, if you ask them
for the money.


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In article . net>,
C. E. White > wrote:
>
>The six cylinder is rated 202hp / 260 ft lb vs 231 hp / 293 ft lb for the
>4.6L V8 and 300 hp / 365 ft lb for th e5.4L V-8. The 6 cylinder is not a
>popular option, so it makes no sense for CR to test it.

Sure it does. CR's not supposed to be in the business of following
what's popular; they're supposed to be in the business of influencing
it.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

>>
>>The six cylinder is rated 202hp / 260 ft lb vs 231 hp / 293 ft lb for the
>>4.6L V8 and 300 hp / 365 ft lb for th e5.4L V-8. The 6 cylinder is not a
>>popular option, so it makes no sense for CR to test it.
>
> Sure it does. CR's not supposed to be in the business of following
> what's popular; they're supposed to be in the business of influencing
> it.

I hope not, considering that most of CR's recommendations are inaccurate at
best or WRONG at worst. -Dave

On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:55:48 -0500, Ted 'defend me and be a criminal
coddler' Kennedy > said the following in
rec.autos.driving...

> On 2 Nov 2005 22:07:49 -0800, "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend"
> > was understood to have stated the following:
>
> >
> >Nope - the nut asked for it.
>
> Ah, by this retarded logic, it's legal to rob a bank, if you ask them
> for the money.


Of course, a criminal lover like judy would take sympathy for the
robber.

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