Just 1 of those days

Had a kid in a borrowed SUV miss a curve and go flying off the road at
our
place the other day. The road is higher the our pasture by about 10
feet.
The SUV rolled multipile times for about 100 yards before it hit a
tree.
Kid was not wearing a seat belt and got ejected pretty early in the
rolls.
We didn't hear the crash but for some reason I had the tractor on that
road
a few minutes after he had wrecked. Found him kind of wandering
around.
He didn't appear hurt but after I chatted with him for a few seconds
it was
obvious he had some serious head injuries. I hurried to the house and
we
called for help. Then I headed back. He had laid down in some rocks
not
far from the road. Talk about the wrong place. There is lots of
copperheads
in those rocks. I saw 2 of them and got him out of there and moved
out of there.
About that time the first responders showed up. Most of them only
live less then
a mile from us. They took real good care of him. Besides the head
injuries he
had a broken ankle, ribs, etc. Wasn't good. They also had to check
him real
close for snake bites but they didn't find any. He wasn't sure if
there had been
anyone else in the SUV so we had to check quite a bit of pasture
looking for
others. And try to check the inside of the car but that was real
tough as it wasn't
sitting very solid and if moved would probably roll some more.
Didn't find anybody
else.

He took out a whole bunch of my new fence. And my pasture is
littered with all
sorts of debris like glass, plastics, beer bottles, etc... We ended
up having to
take down even more fence on the other side of the pasture to get the
SUV out of
there. I had to get the tractor down there to roll the car back on
it's wheels so it
could be removed from the pasture. Needless to say, the SUV was
totaled. Wasn't
a straight body part left and the roof was crushed especially in the
back.

Going to take us days to fix fence and pick up glass. Can't have the
glass
in the pasture with grazing animals. This was on sunday. We had
bought a
herd of goats on saturday and they were to be delivered to that
pasture monday
morning. Guess not. They are all in a small pen for a few days. We
did pick
up some debris after the wreck. Kind of interesting what you will
find. Lots of
beer bottles, ashtray and rolling papers. Go figure.

The grass in the pasture is about 2 feet tall. We are just covered in
chigger bites
from that. We're talking hundreds of bites on each of us. Now that
sucks.

Now, the SUV belonged to his girlfriends father. Nobody had
insurance. And I
heard that the father wasn't a real pleasant fellow to start with.
Sure would hate
to be that kid about now. Pretty sure he's going to be in the
hospital for awhile.

Randy

> wrote in message
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> Had a kid in a borrowed SUV miss a curve and go flying off the road at
> our
> place the other day.

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Damn...sorry to hear it Randy... i hope you can eventually recover something
for the damaged fence... insured or not the driver or the owner of the
vehicle should be responsible, yes?

On Jul 1, 9:36*pm, "Joey Tribiani" > wrote:
>
> Damn...sorry to hear it Randy... i hope you can eventually recover something
> for the damaged fence... insured or not the driver or the owner of the
> vehicle should be responsible, yes?

Yep, they should be responsible but things don't always work that way
down here. I will give them a day or 2 more to contact me then I will
fix the fences and clean the pasture. And then I will send them a
bill
for all the supplies and my usual hourly rate. I'm guessing 5-10
hours
to fix fence and at least that to clean the pasture. And at my usual
hourly consulting rate. And my rates are high, especially when it's
a
job I don't want to do.

Randy

> wrote in message
...


>Yep, they should be responsible but things don't always work that way
>down here. I will give them a day or 2 more to contact me then I will
>fix the fences and clean the pasture. And then I will send them a
>bill
>for all the supplies and my usual hourly rate. I'm guessing 5-10
>hours
>to fix fence and at least that to clean the pasture. And at my usual
>hourly consulting rate. And my rates are high, especially when it's
>a
>job I don't want to do.

>Randy

no need to wait... I used to do large quantities of work in the restoration
field and worked closely with insurance agencies.... any work to the fences
would be considered emergency since the fences are there to contain
livestock. you can repair then bill for payment... i know you said they
didn't have insurance, and not sure of the laws in your neck of the woods,
but in my experience when insurance didn't pay due to lack of coverage, or
no insurance you can either foot the bill and hope for the best on getting
paid, or file with your own personal "home-owners" insurance and then they
will go after whoever they feel owes... just options... hope you don't get
left doing the work and no reimbursement.

On Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:09:49 +0200, Joey Tribiani > wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>> Yep, they should be responsible but things don't always work that way
>> down here. I will give them a day or 2 more to contact me then I will
>> fix the fences and clean the pasture. And then I will send them a
>> bill
>> for all the supplies and my usual hourly rate. I'm guessing 5-10
>> hours
>> to fix fence and at least that to clean the pasture. And at my usual
>> hourly consulting rate. And my rates are high, especially when it's
>> a
>> job I don't want to do.
>
>> Randy
>
> no need to wait... I used to do large quantities of work in the
> restoration
> field and worked closely with insurance agencies.... any work to the
> fences
> would be considered emergency since the fences are there to contain
> livestock. you can repair then bill for payment... i know you said they
> didn't have insurance, and not sure of the laws in your neck of the
> woods,
> but in my experience when insurance didn't pay due to lack of coverage,
> or
> no insurance you can either foot the bill and hope for the best on
> getting
> paid, or file with your own personal "home-owners" insurance and then
> they
> will go after whoever they feel owes... just options... hope you don't
> get
> left doing the work and no reimbursement.
>
>
Would it not be a good idea to let the owner of the said vehicle, to get a
chance to come clean and pay for damages before mailing a bill?
I trust noone, but a day or two seem fair??

J.



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On Jul 2, 6:21*pm, "P.J. Berg" > wrote:
>
> Would it not be a good idea to let the owner of the said vehicle, to get a *
> chance to come clean and pay for damages before mailing a bill?
> I trust noone, but a day or two seem fair??
>
> J.
>

Trying to track the driver down and/or the owner of the SUV down has
been a royal pain in the butt. Yep, they can come clean it up and
fix
the fences but they also have to meet my approval and I'm kind of anal
retentive about those things.

Randy

On Jul 2, 6:36*pm, wrote:
> On Jul 2, 6:21*pm, "P.J. Berg" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Would it not be a good idea to let the owner of the said vehicle, to get a *
> > chance to come clean and pay for damages before mailing a bill?
> > I trust noone, but a day or two seem fair??
>
> > J.

And it's also costing me money each day that pasture is sitting empty
and
unusable. That means I can't put animals there to graze and ending up
having to feed them hay. And hays not cheap these days.

Randy

Horrible turn of events! Sorry for you!
Thank goodness the animals, or your family, were not in the field when this
idiot came through it. ;-)

Reminder...................
Get lots of pictures, estimates, receipts and keep some of the debris just
in case you need it for court.


One time my family and I witnessed a bizarre accident.
A driver in a small car passed me on the right side of a six lane (3 lanes
northbound and 3 lanes southbound) street with a large middle divide. He
abruptly turned left in front of me (I was in the middle lane) cutting in
front of me, the other lane and while going too fast could not stop went up
over curb, over the divide (about 25+ feet) across the 3 lanes of oncoming
traffic missing all of the vehicles. Then he drove the car over a small
brick wall, into a large plate glass window of a Gift Shop disappearing
completely inside.
I called the owner of the shop the next day to offer any help as a witness
along with my pictures. She informed me that if the car had travelled one
more foot, it would have hit the helium tanks. I envisioned small missles
shooting out of the building or fireworks inside! 8^o
I had thought that the driver ran away after this, but he actually waited in
the car inside the store until the fire trucks and police arrived. The
owner of the shop had her store fixed within a week's time.
WOW that dumb driver was lucky, and this was almost unbelievable but since I
saw it with my own two eyes.........

my $0.02
One out of many daves
Chicago

> wrote in message
...
On Jul 2, 6:36 pm, wrote:
> On Jul 2, 6:21 pm, "P.J. Berg" > wrote:
>
>
>
> > Would it not be a good idea to let the owner of the said vehicle, to get
> > a
> > chance to come clean and pay for damages before mailing a bill?
> > I trust noone, but a day or two seem fair??
>
> > J.

And it's also costing me money each day that pasture is sitting empty
and
unusable. That means I can't put animals there to graze and ending up
having to feed them hay. And hays not cheap these days.

Randy