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Old June 20th 05, 09:39 PM
Kenneth Crudup
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In article >,
(Matthew Russotto) says:

>Unfortunately for that suggestion, most drivers are better able to
>drive a car than any computer.


>It's a surprisingly difficult problem.


.... which explains why so many people suck so badly at it, I guess.

-Kenny

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Old June 20th 05, 09:44 PM
Kenneth Crudup
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In article >,
"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > says:

>Rather, it's those big rigs that occupy the two right lanes that effectively
>turn a 4-lane interstate into a two-lane interstate. Notice how freely
>traffic flows during time periods where trucks are NOT on the road in
>masses?


Yabbut truckers are professionals, and will do as little as they can,
size notwithstanding, to reduce traffic flow. At least you know what's
going thru the mind of a trucker. I can't say that about some wingnut
on their fscking phone.

-Kenny

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Old June 20th 05, 10:06 PM
Brent P
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In article >, Scott en Aztlán wrote:
> Anyone want to take a guess as to how much of our existing road
> capacity is wasted by LLBs, poor mergers, Sloths, rubberneckers,
> people who don't speed up when the traffic ahead of them does, etc.
> etc.?
>
> I'd say the waste is at least 40%, i.e. that our roads never achieve
> more than 60% of their true capacity due to incompetent drivers.


> What's your guess?


My estimate is about the same.


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Old June 20th 05, 10:29 PM
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"Aunt Judy Pride Of Millie's Diarrhea murdered his turd tamper," the
infamous criminal coddler, spewed, sprayed, and otherwise expelled the
following fecal matter all over usenet, because it's a loser with
nothing better to do with it's time:
>

<crap flushed>
>
> You are a fuzzy-brained moron. Like the idiots who say baseball is 80%
> pitching.
>
> Anyway - the big problem is penalties for reckless driving are too
> light. If people knew they would go to prison if found at fault in a
> personal injury crash, then everyone would be a 1000 X more careful.
> But criminal coddlers like you think fines are sufficient.


I guess that, and the fact that senatorial membership has it's
priviledges, are the reasons Teddy Kennedy knew he could get away with
murdering his pregnant mistress.

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Laura Bush Murdered Her Boyfriend )'s words of
wisdom, love, and respect (spelling and grammatical errors left intact)

That "microphone" could have been filled with battery acid. Cruise
should have pulled a knife and slit the guy's guts out.
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Put AEOS on the list too. It came out with great earnings and guidance
today and yet went down 7% on very heavy volume. When a stock sells off
on good news, it's going much lower.
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Of course he does. With a name like roger, you know he's a pervert.
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What is the P&G logo?. I just went to their WS and didn't see any.
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Hey stupid. I told you the other day to stop using the phrase
"conspiracy theorist". We're gover-media skeptics.
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There's not a shred of evidence that the jerries murdered anything
close to 7 million jooz. Another monstrous lie just like the 9-11
official story.
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All his amnesty talk puzzled me because most conservatives are
hatefilled racists and don't want the greaseballs in this country.
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You're crazy. There will be a draft. Bush is gonna stage another 9-11
type event and then say we have no choice but to go to war against
every muslim nation. And democrats will say nothing.
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You are an ignoramus. 9-11 was an inside job. That's for sure.
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Fork the dictionary. You've got your definitions and we've got ours.
You prolly also think that when laura bush blew a stop sign and crashed
into and killed her former BF, that it was just an "accident". HAHA
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The issue is the psychopath doing 60 mph OVER THE LIMIT!!!!!!!!. This
guy is a murderer and i want him locked up anyway they can do it. Three
cheers for the cops.

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Market economy???? HAHAHAHA. Prices are whatever the monopolists want
to charge.
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If you speed loons would just slow down we wouldn't have a problem.
drive them until the holes get too big for that tire-in-a-can stuff to
work. Then do what I do and go to pep boys and get a set of used
retreads for $50 and repeat.
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Fork you, beyatch. I'm the greatest troll that ever lived!!!! I'm the
world's champ at infuriating all these pschopathic car loonies. HAHAHA
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Screw driver training and courtesy.
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The Federal Reserve is not a branch of the govt; it's a group of
private banks and borrowing from them means the taxpayers have to pay
the interest to the banks. This has been going on for nearly a hundred
years and it's just stealing from the public and giving to the bankers.
JUST PRINT THE DAMN MONEY.
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I'm not talking about increasing the money supply; just replacing
borrowed money with printed money.
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I know what you mean, dood. I did 5 years in the can myself for beating
the crap out of a half-dozen faggot gun loonies i caught raping a
collie and I couldn't handle the food either. Goddam beets with every
meal. Ended up eating nothing but cans of tuna i bought at the commy.
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I don't think knife bans will ever happen, since knives are so damn
easy to make. I remember when i was in prison for beating up a dozen
gun loonies and we used to melt down a thousand or so aspirin tablets
into a thick goo and then let it harden into a knife shape which we
sharpened against the concrete floor. Anybody can make a knife anywhere
out of anything.
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Hey dood. I've been a US senator since 98! You mean you didn't know
that???
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I never voted in my life, you lying whore. All elections are rigged.
The globalists rigged this one by paying kerry not to attack bush.
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GODDAMMIT - STOP SENDING MESSAGES TO MORE THAN FIVE GROUPS
Google won't allow more than five. It's not my job to delete excessive
group listings but i seem to spend half my life doing that. OBEY THE
RULES, YOU BUTTHOLES!!!!
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I am not paid to delete the excessive newsgroups you clowns are posting
to. Obey the rules or GTF out of here!!!!
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Tires don't blow out anymore.
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Bush is dictator and that means he has to take the blame for
everything.
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Has he killed as many people as Laura Bush?
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You don't know what you're talking about, dood. AIDS is an american
bioweapon developed by americans so that blacks would be esp
susceptible to it.
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She knows it won't matter. Blake is white so the media will insist on a
not guilty verdict.
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YOu stupid lying ****head. All bush has accomplished in AFG is to make
it the world's leading heroin supplier.
And BTW it wasn't a war. It was a massacre against a defenseless nation
that never did anything to us.
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She's just damn lucky the press is owned by the GOP and doesn't crucify
her for vehicular manslaughter like they've done to ted kennedy for 35
years.
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I'm saying that bush obviously doesn't want to catch OBL. Not now that
the election is over, anyway.
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You're crazy, dood. Google is a super rw org and they censor liberals.
RW posters here get away with everything while libs have to be choir
boys.
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That's why so many legal scholars think republicans should be banned
from juries. Anyone who'd vote for a man who lied us into war is too
dumb to sit on a jury.
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Wouldn't have mattered if hitty had one. He took his orders from the
same organization that roosevelt did and bush does today.

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You can't even lie any good. No where in the country are cops issued
crown victorias.
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i'm sure jeffrey dahmer also objects to big daddy govt telling him he
can't kill people anymore.

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At first i thought the tars had been slashed but no, the tars were fine
:
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I hate cell phone drivers but at least this gal had the sense to drive
slowly while yakking.
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Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open stretch
could be 25, i thought. Turns out the cop was right. No complaints from
me then. I should have known the law.
: http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...40009050c624a9

http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpo...1IsAMoron.html

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( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
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>>>Of course, they're anti-safety devices!!! Why would anyone think
>>>otherwise, loonball???. I wish you'd get off this board - you make us
>>>intelligent anti-speeders look bad. Plus, URALOON.

>>I think you've got it backwards with regards to who's more radical.
>>Why do you use a handle that's clearly mimicking a bodily function?
>>C.T.

> That's my real name and i'm proud of it. It's pronounced diarrhrea.
> Got it? So many loons in school made fun of me!!!

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( the following contains part of one of Judy's posts, which would not
otherwise
be available due to Judy's use of the X-No-Archive bit)
> That's the way it should be. In fact even having a RD in your car
>should result in mandatory and permanent loss of DL. Why do you need a
>device whose only function is to help you commit a crime that murders
>thousands of americans a year. URAPSYCHOPATH

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Straw man???? If you saw some black guy on crack with a gun, you'd go
ballistic. But alkies with guns is ok with you cause alcohol is YOUR
drug. URA STUPID ILLOGICAL HYPOCRITE.
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We don't need safer cars and roads. The incredible highway carnage is
entirely due to reckless drivers like you. URAMURDERER.
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HUH??? The cops plant the gun on him and you still say he deserved 55
years. URAPSYCHO
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Old June 20th 05, 10:31 PM
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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:19:57 -0700, Scott en Aztlán
> wrote:

>Anyone want to take a guess as to how much of our existing road
>capacity is wasted by LLBs, poor mergers, Sloths, rubberneckers,
>people who don't speed up when the traffic ahead of them does, etc.
>etc.?
>


don't forget red light runners.

>I'd say the waste is at least 40%, i.e. that our roads never achieve
>more than 60% of their true capacity due to incompetent drivers.
>
>What's your guess?


A ****load
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Old June 20th 05, 11:36 PM
James C. Reeves
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"Daniel W. Rouse Jr." > wrote in message
...
> "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Anyone want to take a guess as to how much of our existing road
>> capacity is wasted by LLBs, poor mergers, Sloths, rubberneckers,
>> people who don't speed up when the traffic ahead of them does, etc.
>> etc.?
>>
>> I'd say the waste is at least 40%, i.e. that our roads never achieve
>> more than 60% of their true capacity due to incompetent drivers.
>>
>> What's your guess?
>>

> I'll say 25% to 50% on 4-lane interstates, but not for cars, including any
> LLB's that can easily be passed on the right.
>
> Rather, it's those big rigs that occupy the two right lanes that
> effectively
> turn a 4-lane interstate into a two-lane interstate. Notice how freely
> traffic flows during time periods where trucks are NOT on the road in
> masses?
>
>


Especially when they're occupying ALL lanes while trying to out-race each
other up a steep grade at their top speed of 20MPH! Not sure why they don't
get more tickets for that little trick!


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Old June 21st 05, 01:00 AM
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Scott en Aztlán > wrote in
:

> Anyone want to take a guess as to how much of our existing road
> capacity is wasted by LLBs, poor mergers, Sloths, rubberneckers,
> people who don't speed up when the traffic ahead of them does, etc.
> etc.?
>
> I'd say the waste is at least 40%, i.e. that our roads never achieve
> more than 60% of their true capacity due to incompetent drivers.
>
> What's your guess?
>
>


Your estimate sounds about right to me.

However,
I do not believe there is any way of fixing that,though,even with better
driver training.There will always be the clueless,slothful,elderly,people
on cellphones,eating,shaving,reading,sightseers,etc.
In fact,I believe it will get worse.

Political Correctness alone would be an impossible hurdle.

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Old June 21st 05, 01:02 AM
Jim Yanik
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"C. E. White" > wrote in
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>
>
> "Scott en Aztlán" wrote:
>>
>> Anyone want to take a guess as to how much of our existing road
>> capacity is wasted by LLBs, poor mergers, Sloths, rubberneckers,
>> people who don't speed up when the traffic ahead of them does, etc.
>> etc.?
>>
>> I'd say the waste is at least 40%, i.e. that our roads never achieve
>> more than 60% of their true capacity due to incompetent drivers.
>>
>> What's your guess?

>
> Don't forget to add in the waste that is caused by rude and
> inconsiderate drivers who jump lanes at intersection,



> who
> squeeze people out who are trying to merge,


These are part of the PROBLEM;they screw up and expect others to slow,or
stop,and make way for them,CAUSING slower traffic flow.


> and who
> constantly switch lanes in an attempt to get ahead in slow
> traffic situations.
>
> Ed
>




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Old June 21st 05, 01:04 AM
Dave C.
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"Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone want to take a guess as to how much of our existing road
> capacity is wasted by LLBs, poor mergers, Sloths, rubberneckers,
> people who don't speed up when the traffic ahead of them does, etc.
> etc.?
>
> I'd say the waste is at least 40%, i.e. that our roads never achieve
> more than 60% of their true capacity due to incompetent drivers.
>
> What's your guess?
>


95% or higher. Definitely not LOWER than that. -Dave


 




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