Perkins Conversion

My dad is looking to do a Perkins 354 swap into a pickup. He already
has the perkins. He was thinking of putting this into 3/4 or 1 ton
pickup(preferably GM). He would like to use an auto if possible. 4WD
is not a neccessity, but might be a nice thing.

Do you guys know where to find the trans adapter to do this?
Which tranny works best(4L60E, 700R4, etc)?
If done with a manual trans, what should be used for a clutch/pressure
plate/etc?

We are both quite mechanical, and have machining capabilities so
custom is not an issue, but looking for some guidance from those who
may have been down this road.

Thanks

Jeridiah

Jees's does a Massey Perkins 354 turn fast enough to run in a pickup where
you don't have enough gears to keep the
RPMS below @2200, If you want to go automatic, you need a Diesel auto
tranny- not a just good old Turbo400.
Since the flywheel bolt pattern is unusual- best keep it, the clutch and
fabricate a bellhousing adapter. you may have
to make up a clutchplate with the right diameter and splines, you might also
have to mod the pilot bearing-input shaft
assy.

I know with an inframe or two the Perkins will often long outlast the rest
of the Massey, but an engine that's GREAT
for one application is sometimes a total failure in another, Perkins
generally like to run high and bog down at torque,
the casual lugging may be a killer for the old girl.

Tack her to an irrigation pump and she'll probably go for 20 years.


--
"A level" Red Seal (and Green Seal) ductapeologist, Cumma oncemore
roundwithit-aye laddy. ve7ifd at rac dot ca


"Jeridiah" > wrote in message
om...
> My dad is looking to do a Perkins 354 swap into a pickup. He already
> has the perkins. He was thinking of putting this into 3/4 or 1 ton
> pickup(preferably GM). He would like to use an auto if possible. 4WD
> is not a neccessity, but might be a nice thing.
>
> Do you guys know where to find the trans adapter to do this?
> Which tranny works best(4L60E, 700R4, etc)?
> If done with a manual trans, what should be used for a clutch/pressure
> plate/etc?
>
> We are both quite mechanical, and have machining capabilities so
> custom is not an issue, but looking for some guidance from those who
> may have been down this road.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeridiah

Jees's does a Massey Perkins 354 turn fast enough to run in a pickup where
you don't have enough gears to keep the
RPMS below @2200, If you want to go automatic, you need a Diesel auto
tranny- not a just good old Turbo400.
Since the flywheel bolt pattern is unusual- best keep it, the clutch and
fabricate a bellhousing adapter. you may have
to make up a clutchplate with the right diameter and splines, you might also
have to mod the pilot bearing-input shaft
assy.

I know with an inframe or two the Perkins will often long outlast the rest
of the Massey, but an engine that's GREAT
for one application is sometimes a total failure in another, Perkins
generally like to run high and bog down at torque,
the casual lugging may be a killer for the old girl.

Tack her to an irrigation pump and she'll probably go for 20 years.


--
"A level" Red Seal (and Green Seal) ductapeologist, Cumma oncemore
roundwithit-aye laddy. ve7ifd at rac dot ca


"Jeridiah" > wrote in message
om...
> My dad is looking to do a Perkins 354 swap into a pickup. He already
> has the perkins. He was thinking of putting this into 3/4 or 1 ton
> pickup(preferably GM). He would like to use an auto if possible. 4WD
> is not a neccessity, but might be a nice thing.
>
> Do you guys know where to find the trans adapter to do this?
> Which tranny works best(4L60E, 700R4, etc)?
> If done with a manual trans, what should be used for a clutch/pressure
> plate/etc?
>
> We are both quite mechanical, and have machining capabilities so
> custom is not an issue, but looking for some guidance from those who
> may have been down this road.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeridiah

"Spud" > wrote in message news:<ZzE5c.67172$Up2.52890@pd7tw1no>...
> Jees's does a Massey Perkins 354 turn fast enough to run in a pickup where
> you don't have enough gears to keep the
> RPMS below @2200, If you want to go automatic, you need a Diesel auto
> tranny- not a just good old Turbo400.
> Since the flywheel bolt pattern is unusual- best keep it, the clutch and
> fabricate a bellhousing adapter. you may have
> to make up a clutchplate with the right diameter and splines, you might also
> have to mod the pilot bearing-input shaft
> assy.
>
> I know with an inframe or two the Perkins will often long outlast the rest
> of the Massey, but an engine that's GREAT
> for one application is sometimes a total failure in another, Perkins
> generally like to run high and bog down at torque,
> the casual lugging may be a killer for the old girl.
>
> Tack her to an irrigation pump and she'll probably go for 20 years.
>
>
> --
> "A level" Red Seal (and Green Seal) ductapeologist, Cumma oncemore
> roundwithit-aye laddy. ve7ifd at rac dot ca
>
>
> "Jeridiah" > wrote in message
> om...
> > My dad is looking to do a Perkins 354 swap into a pickup. He already
> > has the perkins. He was thinking of putting this into 3/4 or 1 ton
> > pickup(preferably GM). He would like to use an auto if possible. 4WD
> > is not a neccessity, but might be a nice thing.
> >
> > Do you guys know where to find the trans adapter to do this?
> > Which tranny works best(4L60E, 700R4, etc)?
> > If done with a manual trans, what should be used for a clutch/pressure
> > plate/etc?
> >
> > We are both quite mechanical, and have machining capabilities so
> > custom is not an issue, but looking for some guidance from those who
> > may have been down this road.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jeridiah

This is a result of an article in Farm Shop News about someone who has
a Suburban w/ a Perkins 354 in it. The guy who has it now bought it
from someone else, so all information he provides is somewhat
"secondhand".
It's been done before w/ relative success, but unsure as to what it
really involves to get there.

JW

"Spud" > wrote in message news:<ZzE5c.67172$Up2.52890@pd7tw1no>...
> Jees's does a Massey Perkins 354 turn fast enough to run in a pickup where
> you don't have enough gears to keep the
> RPMS below @2200, If you want to go automatic, you need a Diesel auto
> tranny- not a just good old Turbo400.
> Since the flywheel bolt pattern is unusual- best keep it, the clutch and
> fabricate a bellhousing adapter. you may have
> to make up a clutchplate with the right diameter and splines, you might also
> have to mod the pilot bearing-input shaft
> assy.
>
> I know with an inframe or two the Perkins will often long outlast the rest
> of the Massey, but an engine that's GREAT
> for one application is sometimes a total failure in another, Perkins
> generally like to run high and bog down at torque,
> the casual lugging may be a killer for the old girl.
>
> Tack her to an irrigation pump and she'll probably go for 20 years.
>
>
> --
> "A level" Red Seal (and Green Seal) ductapeologist, Cumma oncemore
> roundwithit-aye laddy. ve7ifd at rac dot ca
>
>
> "Jeridiah" > wrote in message
> om...
> > My dad is looking to do a Perkins 354 swap into a pickup. He already
> > has the perkins. He was thinking of putting this into 3/4 or 1 ton
> > pickup(preferably GM). He would like to use an auto if possible. 4WD
> > is not a neccessity, but might be a nice thing.
> >
> > Do you guys know where to find the trans adapter to do this?
> > Which tranny works best(4L60E, 700R4, etc)?
> > If done with a manual trans, what should be used for a clutch/pressure
> > plate/etc?
> >
> > We are both quite mechanical, and have machining capabilities so
> > custom is not an issue, but looking for some guidance from those who
> > may have been down this road.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jeridiah

This is a result of an article in Farm Shop News about someone who has
a Suburban w/ a Perkins 354 in it. The guy who has it now bought it
from someone else, so all information he provides is somewhat
"secondhand".
It's been done before w/ relative success, but unsure as to what it
really involves to get there.

JW