OT-PS3 racing games

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(Andrew MacPherson) wrote:

> http://www.gamespot.com/live/stream...bmoid=&urdate=0

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Andrew McP

On Tue, 17 May 2005 20:26:23 GMT, "Mitch_A" >
wrote:

>We may be closer than ever before but I cant help laugh at the number of
>times Ive heard that PC gaming is dead the last 15 years. Mark Twain comes
>to mind
>
>Mitch

Compared to what is being released for the consoles, pc games is very
dead :-/

Andre

The PC gaming era is almost at an end my friends, time to start saving
for those sublime nextgen consoles.

Hi all,

Although impressive, what struck me as extremely odd, was the state of
the demo's shown.

My question/gripe can be summarised as follows and applies to GT, F1,
Killzone, etc. I haven't seen all the demos.

If one were developing for a new platform, basically first thing that
will work would be basic stuff like the engine running, 1 car, 1 track,
get the physics working, etc. In the GT version, they show numerous
tracks with high textures, many cars, motion captured people, all
running at superb frame rates. Is this not unusual?? This would be
okay for a game in near final stages of development, but my guess is
that GT won't be available immediately upon launch or am I mistaken.
Remember the whole thing about a car in GT2 taking x amount of time to
model and the same car in GT3 taking much longer ? with the detail on
offer on the ps3, surely similar logistics apply?

the formula one game seemed to have a number of tracks + cars modelled
to an acceptable level of detail. physics looked arcadey, but that's
okay for now if its alpha alpha code.

in my opinion, the graphical engines in display were just a tad too far
advanced on this new technology (cell) and videocard combo.

of course, the demo's all have to bow down to the killzone2 demo. oh
my word...unbelievable and certainly too polished for an incomplete
game. i can't believe that the engine and graphics and polish for a
game that's a year or more away. all the alpha code for games
typically does not resemble final quality in any way. how come this
looks so good?

am i just being too nitpicky?? me?? naah, can't be.

jawdropping moments from the demo that made the downloads worthwhile.

1) most of the killzone2 demo
2) the camera panning back at the end of the vision gt demo showing the
pits as the cars pulled in for the pitstops.

in any case. if that's the graphical quality we can expect, next year,
then i am gonna start saving now...I don't believe that the PC is
anywhere near that level of detail now or a year from now, and
certainly not at a price point I can afford. XBox360? not even close.
MS better hope that the PS3 demos are smoke and mirrors.

dual side by side 1080p displays??? *faint*

regards,
istoff

"istoff" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Although impressive, what struck me as extremely odd, was the state of
> the demo's shown.
>
> My question/gripe can be summarised as follows and applies to GT, F1,
> Killzone, etc. I haven't seen all the demos.
>
> If one were developing for a new platform, basically first thing that
> will work would be basic stuff like the engine running, 1 car, 1 track,
> get the physics working, etc. In the GT version, they show numerous
> tracks with high textures, many cars, motion captured people, all
> running at superb frame rates. Is this not unusual?? This would be
> okay for a game in near final stages of development, but my guess is
> that GT won't be available immediately upon launch or am I mistaken.
> Remember the whole thing about a car in GT2 taking x amount of time to
> model and the same car in GT3 taking much longer ? with the detail on
> offer on the ps3, surely similar logistics apply?
>
> the formula one game seemed to have a number of tracks + cars modelled
> to an acceptable level of detail. physics looked arcadey, but that's
> okay for now if its alpha alpha code.
>
> in my opinion, the graphical engines in display were just a tad too far
> advanced on this new technology (cell) and videocard combo.
>
> of course, the demo's all have to bow down to the killzone2 demo. oh
> my word...unbelievable and certainly too polished for an incomplete
> game. i can't believe that the engine and graphics and polish for a
> game that's a year or more away. all the alpha code for games
> typically does not resemble final quality in any way. how come this
> looks so good?
>
> am i just being too nitpicky?? me?? naah, can't be.
>
> jawdropping moments from the demo that made the downloads worthwhile.
>
> 1) most of the killzone2 demo
> 2) the camera panning back at the end of the vision gt demo showing the
> pits as the cars pulled in for the pitstops.
>
> in any case. if that's the graphical quality we can expect, next year,
> then i am gonna start saving now...I don't believe that the PC is
> anywhere near that level of detail now or a year from now, and
> certainly not at a price point I can afford. XBox360? not even close.
> MS better hope that the PS3 demos are smoke and mirrors.
>
> dual side by side 1080p displays??? *faint*
>
> regards,
> istoff
>
There is extremely good chance that these demos were pre-rendered. It's a
common E3 practice.