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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
"Rat River Cemetary" > wrote in message news:jWQIj.21325$Cj7.16122@pd7urf2no... > Byron Forbes wrote: > > > What a bunch of spoilt little children - gimmee gimmee gimmee. > > > > A person spends years of sim racing and hours on this particular sim > > working **** out and you think he SHOULD just give it out to any spoilt > > little ****ant? > > > > **** OFF IDIOTS! (and by the way, this is NOW rude). Go and severly > > lower the average IQ of some other genre. > > > > > > Wow, you guys must be really bored to argue over such a stupid thing. http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d.../trolltech.gif |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
A hundred hours? Good job rF modders don't charge! Anyway, over priced, imo.
> wrote in message ... On Apr 2, 11:15 am, "Quentin Queerbottom" > wrote: > Pat, your seat thing is too expensive for what it is. Given that the bill of materials alone is $1000, and I have a hundred hours of work in the software it takes to run the thing, what do you suggest? I disagree with the "for what it is" part. You haven't been in it. It rocks. Sadly, most people can't buy one. They can't buy a Frex seat or an FD301 either. Pat Dotson |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
"Rat River Cemetary" > wrote in message news:jWQIj.21325$Cj7.16122@pd7urf2no... > Byron Forbes wrote: > >> What a bunch of spoilt little children - gimmee gimmee gimmee. >> >> A person spends years of sim racing and hours on this particular sim >> working **** out and you think he SHOULD just give it out to any spoilt >> little ****ant? >> >> **** OFF IDIOTS! (and by the way, this is NOW rude). Go and severly >> lower the average IQ of some other genre. > > Wow, you guys must be really bored to argue over such a stupid thing. Yes, well clearly in your neck of the woods (Rat River Cemetary?) stupidity has been going unchallenged for decades! |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
"Byron Bend Over Forbes" > wrote rubbish that I've sniped. Byron, bend over and touch your toes. This is going to hurt you a lot more than it hurts me, boy! |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
"Quentin Queerbottom" > wrote in message ... > > "Byron Bend Over Forbes" > wrote rubbish that > I've sniped. > > Byron, bend over and touch your toes. This is going to hurt you a lot more > than it hurts me, boy! Did you learn that one from one of your many uncles did you? It really is pitiful to see the type of behavior that common monkeys default to when they entirely run out of intelligence (assuming they had any to begin with) - you stupid little witless girl! |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
Man, I was referring to the statements of Byron, and not to your
specific "dilemma", or explanation of why you did what you did. You had your perfectly good reasons for not endulging the endless setup cravings out there, as you explained well enough later in the thread. I have absolutely no gripe with the content of your posts in this thread. I just thought Byron was over simplifying things just bit too much when he referred to the "only intelligent reasons". I am so tired of people who tries to impose cynicism on other people when this world is holding up nicely *in spite* of cynicism instead of *because* of it. I believe I can say that a "blunt refusal", to use my own words, are not in the gentleman tradition of the sport, but neither are the endless demands for it! And I am not to judge what is and what is not in the gentleman tradition, as there is no obligation in any direction in here. The total lack of this "gentleman" tradition on this worlds racing servers, is much more grave, annoying and totally repulsive. I'd rather see us bash out at each other here and bing gentlemen on the servers than the other way around. If nothing else, I tried to explain why it triggered such a harsh response, namely this gentleman tradition discrepancy of the original statement. ---A--- On 02.04.2008 16:34, * wrote: > On Apr 2, 3:51 am, Asgeir Nesoen > wrote: >> Sportsmanship and gentlemanship goes hand in hand, and that is why such >> a blunt refusal triggered a harsh response. >> >> -A- > > You are focusing on one word, and ignoring the other 133 lines of the > post. > > Sportsmanship? > > I posted this same setup info on the ARCA RSC forum. A guy sent me an > email responding to that post asking if I'd take a look at his setup. > I told him to send it to me. He is apparently running 29.9's at > Nashville with it. I loaded it up and ran a 29.7 on the third lap out > of the pits. It was on the loose side with a hot RR tire, so I added > 1/2% nose weight, and ran a 29.6. Added tape and air pressure for a > qual run and ran a 29.58 the first time out. All this took about 10 > laps. > > His setup is great - maybe better than mine. > > Did he need my setup? No. He would be slower with my setup. > > Would I have been doing him a favor by handing him my setup? No. He > might have abandoned his setup that is already good. > > He needs more seat time, more laps, more attention to driving > technique, and maybe more attention on his control setup. > > I worded my post exactly as intended. I hope it's a wake-up call for > some people. > > Pat Dotson > |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
On Apr 4, 7:14*am, Asgeir Nesoen > wrote:
> Man, I was referring to the statements of Byron, and not to your > specific "dilemma" Thanks for the clarification. I also prefer an gentlemanly approach to sim racing. I haven't been heavily into oval sim racing since the NROS/TEN days with NASCAR 2. What I'm seeing now on the ARCA servers in terms of driving ettiquette is much improved over those days. There were always a large percentage of people on TEN who had no concept of car control. AFAIK or could tell them may have even been driving with keyboards back then. Now people seem to be in control of their vehicle, and understand how the whole thing is supposed to work. Another funny thing is, I don't remember people asking for setups back in the N2 days at all. Now asking for setups completely commonplace. I saw someone call the name "setup leeches" the other night It must be a N2003 thing, which I was never a part of. One thing to consider is, at least in the karting that I've done, people are usually pretty secretive about their setups. It's not unusual to find someone who will tell you what gearing or rear stagger they are running, but I have never seen or heard someone give away a complete setup to a direct competitor. I imagine the higher you go in real racing the more secretive it becomes. Pat Dotson |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
jason moyer wrote:
> Developing your own setups is one of the skills of simracing. Not necessarily. Some people are good drivers with fast reactions but not good setup geeks. Just like in RL racing. |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
On Apr 15, 4:39*am, Rat River Cemetary > wrote:
> Not necessarily. Some people are good drivers with fast reactions but > not good setup geeks. Just like in RL racing. In RL racing, a driver who can't provide input into setup changes is almost completely useless. I can't think of anyone who has been a successful race driver and a bad test driver. |
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"Hey Pat Dotson, Can I Try Yer Setup?" - ARCA Sim Racing
On 17 Apr, 00:53, jason moyer > wrote:
> On Apr 15, 4:39*am, Rat River Cemetary > wrote: > > > Not necessarily. Some people are good drivers with fast reactions but > > not good setup geeks. Just like in RL racing. > > In RL racing, a driver who can't provide input into setup changes is > almost completely useless. *I can't think of anyone who has been a > successful race driver and a bad test driver. Jim Clark. |
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