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  #21  
Old March 8th 07, 10:09 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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In article >, Michael Johnson wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article >, Joe wrote:
>>
>>>> If they wouldn't care if was called a plymouth they wouldn't care if
>>>> was called a Cuda either. It could be the Dodge Coelacanth....
>>>> http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/InNews...toric2006.html

>>
>>> "'Cuda" means everything; Plymouth is simply not a factor.

>>
>> Probably close to what the marketeers thought about GTO over at GM.


> It wasn't the name that killed the GTO it was the car they put it on.


It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
early version of the GTO.

> If D-C markets a Hemi Cuda worthy of the name it will sell regardless of
> whether it is a Dodge or Plymouth. Like Joe said, I don't remember
> hearing Plymouth Hemi Cuda much just Hemi Cuda.


If it's worthy of the later car (as opposed to the early baracudas that
only had thrifty inline 6s), the name won't matter.




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  #22  
Old March 8th 07, 10:19 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
My Name Is Nobody
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
. ..
> In article >, Michael
> Johnson wrote:
>> Brent P wrote:
>>> In article >, Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If they wouldn't care if was called a plymouth they wouldn't care if
>>>>> was called a Cuda either. It could be the Dodge Coelacanth....
>>>>> http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/InNews...toric2006.html
>>>
>>>> "'Cuda" means everything; Plymouth is simply not a factor.
>>>
>>> Probably close to what the marketeers thought about GTO over at GM.

>
>> It wasn't the name that killed the GTO it was the car they put it on.

>
> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
> early version of the GTO.


Ya, if you are OK with a butt ugly GTO that looks more like a Toyota Camry
than anything anyone can imagine as a GTO...
I guess you could think that, Ya, OK.... :-(

>
>> If D-C markets a Hemi Cuda worthy of the name it will sell regardless of
>> whether it is a Dodge or Plymouth. Like Joe said, I don't remember
>> hearing Plymouth Hemi Cuda much just Hemi Cuda.

>
> If it's worthy of the later car (as opposed to the early baracudas that
> only had thrifty inline 6s), the name won't matter.



Zactly...


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  #23  
Old March 8th 07, 10:30 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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In article <V5%Hh.2044$3i.1491@trnddc01>, My Name Is Nobody wrote:

>> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
>> early version of the GTO.


> Ya, if you are OK with a butt ugly GTO that looks more like a Toyota Camry
> than anything anyone can imagine as a GTO...
> I guess you could think that, Ya, OK.... :-(


Ever see an early GTO? Looks like a typical boring sedan of the time period.

  #24  
Old March 8th 07, 11:19 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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"Brent P" > wrote in message
...
> In article <V5%Hh.2044$3i.1491@trnddc01>, My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>
>>> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
>>> early version of the GTO.

>
>> Ya, if you are OK with a butt ugly GTO that looks more like a Toyota
>> Camry
>> than anything anyone can imagine as a GTO...
>> I guess you could think that, Ya, OK.... :-(

>
> Ever see an early GTO? Looks like a typical boring sedan of the time
> period.
>


Yes, but not a Japanese car of the time.



  #25  
Old March 8th 07, 11:33 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Michael Johnson
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Brent P wrote:
> In article <V5%Hh.2044$3i.1491@trnddc01>, My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>
>>> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
>>> early version of the GTO.

>
>> Ya, if you are OK with a butt ugly GTO that looks more like a Toyota Camry
>> than anything anyone can imagine as a GTO...
>> I guess you could think that, Ya, OK.... :-(

>
> Ever see an early GTO? Looks like a typical boring sedan of the time period.


You're the first person I have ever heard refer to the early GTO's as
boring sedans. IMO, they are classics and icons in the history of
muscles cars. I drove a 1966 GTO for awhile and thought (still do) it
was one of the best looking cars ever produced. A true classic in every
sense of the word.

The original GTOs was based off a mass produced chassis from domestic
plants that found its way into numerous GM subsidiaries. The last GTO
was a Holden import from Australia that had no tie to any other model in
GM's domestic lineup. Plus the early GTO was a relatively lightweight
vehicle not a porky, over the hill import.
  #26  
Old March 8th 07, 11:39 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Michael Johnson
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Brent P wrote:
> In article >, Michael Johnson wrote:
>> Brent P wrote:
>>> In article >, Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>>> If they wouldn't care if was called a plymouth they wouldn't care if
>>>>> was called a Cuda either. It could be the Dodge Coelacanth....
>>>>> http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/InNews...toric2006.html
>>>
>>>> "'Cuda" means everything; Plymouth is simply not a factor.
>>> Probably close to what the marketeers thought about GTO over at GM.

>
>> It wasn't the name that killed the GTO it was the car they put it on.

>
> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
> early version of the GTO.


Not hardly. It is a converted left hand drive import. Read up on the
early GTOs. There is little in common with the last one.

>> If D-C markets a Hemi Cuda worthy of the name it will sell regardless of
>> whether it is a Dodge or Plymouth. Like Joe said, I don't remember
>> hearing Plymouth Hemi Cuda much just Hemi Cuda.

>
> If it's worthy of the later car (as opposed to the early baracudas that
> only had thrifty inline 6s), the name won't matter.


Are you saying the early Cudas were not note worthy? My cousin hard one
and it wasn't a boring car. Well you do think the early GTOs were
boring so this opinion isn't much of a stretch for you. I'm glad you
agree that the name won't matter. Plymouth Hemi Cuda verses Chrysler
Hemi Cuda? Doesn't matter to me.
  #27  
Old March 8th 07, 11:40 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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My Name Is Nobody wrote:
> "Joe" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I guess it's both bad and good news...
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ypofdq

>
> Hello?
> Someone needs to tell George Pipas, Ford Motor Co.'s top sales analyst to
> make more damn Shelby GT500's and sell them at MSRP!


BINGO!!! Give this man a prize.
  #28  
Old March 9th 07, 12:15 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
My Name Is Nobody
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"Michael Johnson" > wrote in message
...
> My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>> "Joe" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> I guess it's both bad and good news...
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ypofdq

>>
>> Hello?
>> Someone needs to tell George Pipas, Ford Motor Co.'s top sales analyst to
>> make more damn Shelby GT500's and sell them at MSRP!

>
> BINGO!!! Give this man a prize.


If they wouldn't be screwing us loyal Ford Fanatics out of this car, I would
now be driving my new Shelby GT500 and my wife would be driving her new
"matching" Mustang GT...
As it is I refuse to buy one because of their lack of regard for and ****ty
treatment of their core customers.

There goes another two sales...

Huum...


  #29  
Old March 9th 07, 12:17 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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In article >, Michael Johnson wrote:
> Brent P wrote:
>> In article <V5%Hh.2044$3i.1491@trnddc01>, My Name Is Nobody wrote:
>>
>>>> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
>>>> early version of the GTO.

>>
>>> Ya, if you are OK with a butt ugly GTO that looks more like a Toyota Camry
>>> than anything anyone can imagine as a GTO...
>>> I guess you could think that, Ya, OK.... :-(

>>
>> Ever see an early GTO? Looks like a typical boring sedan of the time period.

>
> You're the first person I have ever heard refer to the early GTO's as
> boring sedans.


Read what I wrote again. See the words LOOKS LIKE ?

> IMO, they are classics and icons in the history of
> muscles cars. I drove a 1966 GTO for awhile and thought (still do) it
> was one of the best looking cars ever produced. A true classic in every
> sense of the word.


1964 GTO:
http://www.yenko.net/reunion/SCR79999999.JPG

1964 tempest
http://www.sdpoci.com/yelo64.gif

Both plain ordinary styled formal squared off roof sedans of the period.

  #30  
Old March 9th 07, 12:21 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Brent P[_1_]
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In article >, Michael Johnson wrote:

>> It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the
>> early version of the GTO.


> Not hardly. It is a converted left hand drive import. Read up on the
> early GTOs. There is little in common with the last one.


Both slightly gussied up family sedans with more punch.

>>> If D-C markets a Hemi Cuda worthy of the name it will sell regardless of
>>> whether it is a Dodge or Plymouth. Like Joe said, I don't remember
>>> hearing Plymouth Hemi Cuda much just Hemi Cuda.


>> If it's worthy of the later car (as opposed to the early baracudas that
>> only had thrifty inline 6s), the name won't matter.


> Are you saying the early Cudas were not note worthy?


Not any more than any other 6 cylinder compact.

> My cousin hard one and it wasn't a boring car.


Well most people would say that six clyinder compacts are. I'm different
than most... but if they put out something like they did in 1964 with
only 6 cylinder engines it would fail today, don't ya think?

> Well you do think the early GTOs were
> boring so this opinion isn't much of a stretch for you.


I wrote 'looks boring'. Read for comprehension much?





 




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