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  #1  
Old August 31st 08, 02:14 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

Greetings,


I'm just asking a general question or two on Jeep trailers like the
old 1/4 ton. I've seen photos of the older surplus ones & they look
like something that I might consider useful for my needs. I want to
ask:

1. How practical/safe are these trailers in modern TJ's, etc. and
traveling at today's highway speeds? Is it stable at 80MPH ?

2. Are there modern day makes that might be same general size?

3. Sources for #2 ? Price ranges?


TIA,

Andrew
'97 TJ Sahara
(Now in it's 12th year)
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Old August 31st 08, 03:04 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

These guys have new trailers for jeeps
http://www.tentrax.com/CargoPactrailer.html

> wrote in message
...
> Greetings,
>
>
> I'm just asking a general question or two on Jeep trailers like the
> old 1/4 ton. I've seen photos of the older surplus ones & they look
> like something that I might consider useful for my needs. I want to
> ask:
>
> 1. How practical/safe are these trailers in modern TJ's, etc. and
> traveling at today's highway speeds? Is it stable at 80MPH ?
>
> 2. Are there modern day makes that might be same general size?
>
> 3. Sources for #2 ? Price ranges?
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> '97 TJ Sahara
> (Now in it's 12th year)



  #3  
Old August 31st 08, 04:26 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

Small utility trailers problems usually focus on:
-Tires too small for the load or weather checked, old, rotten
-Wheel bearings not maintained
-Overloaded
-Badly loaded (usually with not enough weight up forward.)

the 1/4 ton military units are plenty hefty but the high CG makes proper
loading a key concern. Anything used should have a bearing inspection
and repack. Tires need a good going over, huge weather checks are common.

Your TJ is only rated for 2000 pounds (may be only 1000 depending on the
model) and this should be considered a hard limit. The brakes are good,
the engine is good, the handling is BAD!!! And if you are talking about
80 mph along with 2000 pounds, please send me your flight plan so I can
avoid the road.

wrote:
> Greetings,
>
>
> I'm just asking a general question or two on Jeep trailers like the
> old 1/4 ton. I've seen photos of the older surplus ones & they look
> like something that I might consider useful for my needs. I want to
> ask:
>
> 1. How practical/safe are these trailers in modern TJ's, etc. and
> traveling at today's highway speeds? Is it stable at 80MPH ?
>
> 2. Are there modern day makes that might be same general size?
>
> 3. Sources for #2 ? Price ranges?
>
>
> TIA,
>
> Andrew
> '97 TJ Sahara
> (Now in it's 12th year)

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Old August 31st 08, 07:22 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:26:35 -0500, RoyJ >
wrote:

>Small utility trailers problems usually focus on:
>-Tires too small for the load or weather checked, old, rotten
>-Wheel bearings not maintained
>-Overloaded
>-Badly loaded (usually with not enough weight up forward.)
>
>the 1/4 ton military units are plenty hefty but the high CG makes proper
>loading a key concern. Anything used should have a bearing inspection
>and repack. Tires need a good going over, huge weather checks are common.
>
>Your TJ is only rated for 2000 pounds (may be only 1000 depending on the
>model) and this should be considered a hard limit. The brakes are good,
>the engine is good, the handling is BAD!!! And if you are talking about
>80 mph along with 2000 pounds, please send me your flight plan so I can
>avoid the road.


Funny! Thanks. No, weight of a few hundred tops probably. TJ's just
don't pack much.

Andrew
>
wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> I'm just asking a general question or two on Jeep trailers like the
>> old 1/4 ton. I've seen photos of the older surplus ones & they look
>> like something that I might consider useful for my needs. I want to
>> ask:
>>
>> 1. How practical/safe are these trailers in modern TJ's, etc. and
>> traveling at today's highway speeds? Is it stable at 80MPH ?
>>
>> 2. Are there modern day makes that might be same general size?
>>
>> 3. Sources for #2 ? Price ranges?
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrew
>> '97 TJ Sahara
>> (Now in it's 12th year)

  #5  
Old August 31st 08, 07:51 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:04:48 GMT, "Greg" > wrote:

> These guys have new trailers for jeeps
>http://www.tentrax.com/CargoPactrailer.html
>
> wrote in message
.. .
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>> I'm just asking a general question or two on Jeep trailers like the
>> old 1/4 ton. I've seen photos of the older surplus ones & they look
>> like something that I might consider useful for my needs. I want to
>> ask:
>>
>> 1. How practical/safe are these trailers in modern TJ's, etc. and
>> traveling at today's highway speeds? Is it stable at 80MPH ?
>>
>> 2. Are there modern day makes that might be same general size?
>>
>> 3. Sources for #2 ? Price ranges?
>>
>>
>> TIA,
>>
>> Andrew
>> '97 TJ Sahara
>> (Now in it's 12th year)

>


Thx for taking your time to reply but what I'm really looking for is
the shorter Jeep equivalent of an open pick-up bed. Since Jeep
doesn't make pick-ups - I am considering how to NOT buy
a Frontier or Tacoma next year when I love TJ's but need more
hauling capacity of assorted tools, equipment, loose items.

Well, you know - what you'd toss in the back of a pick-up.
I looking around to see what Jeep aftermarket items might do
the job. I love my Jeep and I'd dearly love to part with my cash
next year for a **Jeep** pick-up but it may not be. Alas!

This is kinda like it:

http://www.quadratec.com/showcases/a...FRJdxwodmgwOQw

But at 9,000 (nine!) grand you can forget it. Better would be to keep
a rear bench seat and add a bed.

This is my Dream-Vehicle,....(sigh,drool)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...diator_203.jpg


Andrew
  #6  
Old September 1st 08, 12:50 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

There may be some humor but it is pretty close to gallows humor. The
CJ/YJ/TJ short wheel base, high center of gravity, and high hitch mount
is a deadly combination when doing high speed lane changes for accident
avoidance. You swerve lanes, the tailer follows late, pushes the hitch
ball UP and over. Instant spinout or possible roll.

wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 10:26:35 -0500, RoyJ >
> wrote:
>
>> Small utility trailers problems usually focus on:
>> -Tires too small for the load or weather checked, old, rotten
>> -Wheel bearings not maintained
>> -Overloaded
>> -Badly loaded (usually with not enough weight up forward.)
>>
>> the 1/4 ton military units are plenty hefty but the high CG makes proper
>> loading a key concern. Anything used should have a bearing inspection
>> and repack. Tires need a good going over, huge weather checks are common.
>>
>> Your TJ is only rated for 2000 pounds (may be only 1000 depending on the
>> model) and this should be considered a hard limit. The brakes are good,
>> the engine is good, the handling is BAD!!! And if you are talking about
>> 80 mph along with 2000 pounds, please send me your flight plan so I can
>> avoid the road.

>
> Funny! Thanks. No, weight of a few hundred tops probably. TJ's just
> don't pack much.
>
> Andrew
>>
wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm just asking a general question or two on Jeep trailers like the
>>> old 1/4 ton. I've seen photos of the older surplus ones & they look
>>> like something that I might consider useful for my needs. I want to
>>> ask:
>>>
>>> 1. How practical/safe are these trailers in modern TJ's, etc. and
>>> traveling at today's highway speeds? Is it stable at 80MPH ?
>>>
>>> 2. Are there modern day makes that might be same general size?
>>>
>>> 3. Sources for #2 ? Price ranges?
>>>
>>>
>>> TIA,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> '97 TJ Sahara
>>> (Now in it's 12th year)

  #7  
Old September 1st 08, 04:24 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:51:10 -0400, Reply wrote:

> Since Jeep
> doesn't make pick-ups - I am considering how to NOT buy
> a Frontier or Tacoma next year when I love TJ's but need more
> hauling capacity of assorted tools, equipment, loose items.



SERIOUS rumours afoot from high up that Jeep will indeed be making a
pickup-style vehicle, small to medium bed. I've seen sketches and partial
rough schematics.

You might want to google around a bit, there /is/ material out there.

Whether it makes it to market is an open question, but it is being
seriously considered.




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Old September 2nd 08, 02:28 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:24:22 GMT, Pink of Freud
> wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:51:10 -0400, Reply wrote:
>
>> Since Jeep
>> doesn't make pick-ups - I am considering how to NOT buy
>> a Frontier or Tacoma next year when I love TJ's but need more
>> hauling capacity of assorted tools, equipment, loose items.

>
>
>SERIOUS rumours afoot from high up that Jeep will indeed be making a
>pickup-style vehicle, small to medium bed. I've seen sketches and partial
>rough schematics.
>
>You might want to google around a bit, there /is/ material out there.
>
>Whether it makes it to market is an open question, but it is being
>seriously considered.
>
>
>

Concept pix I've seen are of a VERY tiny vehicle with no back
benchseat and the spare tire stowed in the "bed" of the pick-up.
I honestly don't think you could get 4 grocery bags in it - Though
it will be a Jeep! - Albeit a tiny one.

Andrew
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Old September 2nd 08, 02:32 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:28:55 -0400, Reply wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:24:22 GMT, Pink of Freud
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:51:10 -0400, Reply wrote:
>>
>>> Since Jeep
>>> doesn't make pick-ups - I am considering how to NOT buy
>>> a Frontier or Tacoma next year when I love TJ's but need more
>>> hauling capacity of assorted tools, equipment, loose items.

>>
>>
>>SERIOUS rumours afoot from high up that Jeep will indeed be making a
>>pickup-style vehicle, small to medium bed. I've seen sketches and partial
>>rough schematics.
>>
>>You might want to google around a bit, there /is/ material out there.
>>
>>Whether it makes it to market is an open question, but it is being
>>seriously considered.
>>
>>
>>

> Concept pix I've seen are of a VERY tiny vehicle with no back
> benchseat and the spare tire stowed in the "bed" of the pick-up.
> I honestly don't think you could get 4 grocery bags in it - Though
> it will be a Jeep! - Albeit a tiny one.
>
> Andrew


Not a jeeper, so just passing what little I know.

Check my above post, FWIW.


PF aka 'c'




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Old September 2nd 08, 02:35 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys
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Default Questions on Jeep Trailers (like the old Mil. 1/4 ton)

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:28:55 -0400, Reply wrote:

> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:24:22 GMT, Pink of Freud
> > wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:51:10 -0400, Reply wrote:
>>
>>> Since Jeep
>>> doesn't make pick-ups - I am considering how to NOT buy
>>> a Frontier or Tacoma next year when I love TJ's but need more
>>> hauling capacity of assorted tools, equipment, loose items.

>>
>>
>>SERIOUS rumours afoot from high up that Jeep will indeed be making a
>>pickup-style vehicle, small to medium bed. I've seen sketches and partial
>>rough schematics.
>>
>>You might want to google around a bit, there /is/ material out there.
>>
>>Whether it makes it to market is an open question, but it is being
>>seriously considered.
>>
>>
>>

> Concept pix I've seen are of a VERY tiny vehicle with no back
> benchseat and the spare tire stowed in the "bed" of the pick-up.
> I honestly don't think you could get 4 grocery bags in it - Though
> it will be a Jeep! - Albeit a tiny one.
>
> Andrew


Not a jeeper, so just passing along what I know.

Check my post above, FWIW


PF aka 'c'



 




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