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Consequences to kid who wants to get caught at extreme high speed in GA



 
 
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Old October 18th 05, 11:05 PM
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Default Consequences to kid who wants to get caught at extreme high speed in GA


James wrote:
> I have a question that covers both technical automotive and legal issues.
>
> Here's the scenario.
>
> In a public high school, there are a bunch of kids obsessed with underground
> racing videos they see on the internet. A kid tells me he *wants* to get
> caught doing 180 in GA, which he believes would break the record for the
> highest speed for which someone's been ticketed in that state. His reason?
> Basically for bragging rights.
>
> This brings up numerous issues. I asked this kid (17 yr old) where he
> figured he'd be able to get his hands on a car that could do a real world
> 180 (I don't know if this would actually be the record in GA or not). He
> swears he knows an exotic car rental place that will rent such a car to him.
> It seems somewhat incredulous to me that someone is going to let a kid drive
> off with a car like this when major rental agencies require you to be 25
> with a major credit card, but for the sake of argument...
>
> Let's say this kid isn't just talking out his backside, and he actually gets
> his hands on such a car and actually makes a road trip to one of the
> interstates in GA and finds a stretch that's straight enough and long enough
> and uninhabited enough and happens to have a trooper conveniently placed at
> an appropriate spot.
>
> -What's the likelikhood that the presumably factory tires that are on the
> car as it sits on the lot are going to hold up at that kind of speed? Does
> anyone make street tires that you'd trust like that? What about the road
> surface? If someone told you you could have a consequence-free trip on a
> blocked-off GA interstate as fast as you wanted, is the road surface even
> conducive to near 200 mph speeds?
>
> -This kid says he's been to the Richard Petty driving experience at Disney
> and some similar thing at Daytona. How unlike driving a watered-down NASCAR
> racer on a closed track at around 140mph would it be to take a street car on
> street tires on a public interstate at 180 or more? How stable is some (I
> assume) European hot rod at those kinds of speeds? I've never been much more
> than around 120 myself.
>
> Let's assume he doesn't shred a tire, doesn't lose a wheel bearing, doesn't
> lose control and fly off the side of the road, doesn't run into someone else
> in the process.
>
> Now, he passes a trooper who clocks him at 180+. Okay, then what? The car's
> going a mile every 20 seconds, he's going to cover some serious distance
> before the cop even gets the car on the road. I assume there's not a cop car
> in the universe that can make that kind of speed so I'm not sure how they're
> even going to pull him over. Rolling road block? Air surveillance? Of
> course, the kid's stated objective was to get caught, so let's say he sees
> the blue lights in his rear view and voluntarily pulls over and waits for
> the cop to catch up to him.
>
> What kind of fun now awaits our young hero at this point? As I understand
> it, anything more than 20 over the limit in GA means he's going to jail.
> This kid said he figured on spending a few nights in jail, which didn't seem
> to be a big deal to him.
>
> -If you know, what kind of legal ramifications is this likely to bring both
> to him and his parents assuming he's still a minor if/when he pulls this
> stunt?
>
> -He has it in his head he'd get a GA license first so he would lose that one
> instead of his FL license. Is it easy to get licenses in more than one
> state? Even if he shows them his GA license, could it affect his FL license
> anyway?
>
> -How likely is it his insurance company would find out? Do the cops
> automatically notify them or no? And if they do find out, how might this
> affect his status? I assume he's on his parents' policy.
>
> -Surely the car will be impounded. No doubt the rental agency will hit him
> or his parents up for the charges to get it out of impound. Could there be
> other legal action brought by the rental agency as well?
>
> Now, if he *does* maim or kill someone else in the process and he lives,
> what could he be looking at? What about his parents? Could they be on the
> hook for anything?
>
> Any additional issues you can see in doing something like this?


If a seventeen year old could rent an exotic car cabable of those
speeds, and if the rental company does not have a speed limiter
installed the car and tires should handle the top speed the car is
capable of.

That speed should get you charged with not only speeding, but "careless
disregard for others safety" or some such. If someone goes off the
road regardless of a collision he could also be charged as cause of
that accident. (prosecution might not suceed).

I do not think you can get licenses in two states concurrently. All of
them that I know grant you a state license and terminate the other.
Residency requirement in many states.

A sane highway cop will radio ahead and get a roadblock established. If
he hits lights and siren fast enough the kid could also be charged with
fleeing a police officer or whatever wording is in that juristiction.

All in all a rather stupid idea by a 17 year old which, if I were the
parent would lose his driving priviledges for a long long time.

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