Help with Backup Light Switch Electrical Part

I'm in the process of getting my backup/upshift light switch
functional so that I can get my backup lights working. When I bought
this car last December, the switch was bad, as was the most of the
wiring. BTW, this is for a 1984 Rabbit with a 4sp. transmission.
I've purchased a few replacement parts to get everything
going, a new switch (mine is the larger kind with several spade
terminals sticking up and that screws into the transmission with two
bolts), and also a new wiring block that holds all of the wires and
plugs into the switch.
I think I understand the wiring and which wire will need to go
where. However, the ends of these wires are all torn up. I need some
new electrical connectors for the ends of the wires that go into the
above mentioned block. This is where I need some help. I've never
seen these electrical connectors before. And I can't find them for
sale anywhere. It makes me think that they might be VW specific, but
my ETKA catalog doesn't show them, or a part number for them. I can go
to my dealership if needed, but they are about 45 minutes away. The
connector is very small. It is 3/4" long, 1/8" wide, and 1/8" tall.
In case I'm not doing a good job of describing it, I have some
pictures uploaded he

http://www.wild-lands.net/vw/rabbit/upshift/

Can anybody please tell me either a VW part number, a proper name for
this type of connector, or a place that sells them where I might take
it in and show them? I know many people have had problems with the
switches before, but I'm hoping that somebody has had to redo the
wiring as well.

Thanks!
Bryan

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"Bryan K. Walton" > wrote in message
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> I'm in the process of getting my backup/upshift light switch
> functional so that I can get my backup lights working. When I bought
> this car last December, the switch was bad, as was the most of the
> wiring. BTW, this is for a 1984 Rabbit with a 4sp. transmission.
> I've purchased a few replacement parts to get everything
> going, a new switch (mine is the larger kind with several spade
> terminals sticking up and that screws into the transmission with two
> bolts), and also a new wiring block that holds all of the wires and
> plugs into the switch.
> I think I understand the wiring and which wire will need to go
> where. However, the ends of these wires are all torn up. I need some
> new electrical connectors for the ends of the wires that go into the
> above mentioned block. This is where I need some help. I've never
> seen these electrical connectors before. And I can't find them for
> sale anywhere. It makes me think that they might be VW specific, but
> my ETKA catalog doesn't show them, or a part number for them. I can go
> to my dealership if needed, but they are about 45 minutes away. The
> connector is very small. It is 3/4" long, 1/8" wide, and 1/8" tall.
> In case I'm not doing a good job of describing it, I have some
> pictures uploaded he
>
> http://www.wild-lands.net/vw/rabbit/upshift/
>
> Can anybody please tell me either a VW part number, a proper name for
> this type of connector, or a place that sells them where I might take
> it in and show them? I know many people have had problems with the
> switches before, but I'm hoping that somebody has had to redo the
> wiring as well.

Looks like you want a VW wiring repair kit which is a wire with a connector
like that on it. here are a few part numbers that might be it but i'm not
sure exactly which one you need (not sure if these are different sizes or
what...)

000 979 126 or 000 979 133

000 979 227

http://www.worldimpex.com has them.

http://www.worldimpex.com/item_detail.html?sku=149523 (000 979 126 or 000
979 133)

http://www.worldimpex.com/item_detail.html?sku=68795 (000979227)

On 2006-06-21, Matt B. > wrote:
> Looks like you want a VW wiring repair kit which is a wire with a connector
> like that on it. here are a few part numbers that might be it but i'm not
> sure exactly which one you need (not sure if these are different sizes or
> what...)

Hey,
Thanks for the information Matt and the source for them. I've
picked up where you left off. After some more digging, I've found
there is also 000979225, 000979135. After talking to a VW dealership,
they said that the only difference appears to be the wire gauge. But,
unfortunately, they don't know the actual gauge of the wire on the
respective parts. Anybody else out there know which of these parts,
specifically are for the backup switch wiring on a Rabbit:

000 979 126
000 979 133
000 979 135
000 979 225
000 979 227

Of course, if the terminal endings are the same size, does it
really matter? I'll probably splice it into the existing wiring.
With that said, is it better to go bigger than smaller?

Thanks!
Bryan Walton


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what about asking if someone has some old wiring harness for you? Maybe
they will sell you that plug with some length of wiring left on it?
Solder, crimp or whatever to get it wired in.
Early A2's plugs might work too. Should I cut one off a junked car for you?
;-)
BTW there should be different switches that look similar.

just a thought;
dave
(One out of many daves)

"Bryan K. Walton" > wrote in message
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> On 2006-06-21, Matt B. > wrote:
>> Looks like you want a VW wiring repair kit which is a wire with a
>> connector
>> like that on it. here are a few part numbers that might be it but i'm
>> not
>> sure exactly which one you need (not sure if these are different sizes or
>> what...)
>
> Hey,
> Thanks for the information Matt and the source for them. I've
> picked up where you left off. After some more digging, I've found
> there is also 000979225, 000979135. After talking to a VW dealership,
> they said that the only difference appears to be the wire gauge. But,
> unfortunately, they don't know the actual gauge of the wire on the
> respective parts. Anybody else out there know which of these parts,
> specifically are for the backup switch wiring on a Rabbit:
>
> 000 979 126
> 000 979 133
> 000 979 135
> 000 979 225
> 000 979 227
>
> Of course, if the terminal endings are the same size, does it
> really matter? I'll probably splice it into the existing wiring.
> With that said, is it better to go bigger than smaller?

"Bryan K. Walton" > wrote in message
ink.com...
> Hey,
> Thanks for the information Matt and the source for them. I've
> picked up where you left off. After some more digging, I've found
> there is also 000979225, 000979135. After talking to a VW dealership,
> they said that the only difference appears to be the wire gauge. But,
> unfortunately, they don't know the actual gauge of the wire on the
> respective parts. Anybody else out there know which of these parts,
> specifically are for the backup switch wiring on a Rabbit:
>
> 000 979 126
> 000 979 133
> 000 979 135
> 000 979 225
> 000 979 227
>
> Of course, if the terminal endings are the same size, does it
> really matter? I'll probably splice it into the existing wiring.
> With that said, is it better to go bigger than smaller?

Bigger is better than smaller...less resistance, brighter lamps.

Although we are talking about relatively small 21W bulbs here. But in the
world of, say, headlamps, people sometimes change to bigger wires and relays
for getting improved lighting output so the same should hold true for
reverse lights but just on a smaller scale. Then again, you probably aren't
changing ALL of your wiring in the circuit...just some of it. so it won't
really matter significantly. Go with 14 gauge wiring (whatever part number
corresponds to that) and you can't really go wrong w/that (for reverse lamps
anyway).

On 2006-06-22, One out of many Daves > wrote:
> what about asking if someone has some old wiring harness for you? Maybe
> they will sell you that plug with some length of wiring left on it?
> Solder, crimp or whatever to get it wired in.
> Early A2's plugs might work too. Should I cut one off a junked car for you?
> ;-)
> BTW there should be different switches that look similar.

Hi Dave,
Your last sentence sums up exactly why I've decided to simply
redo everything. I've got a brand new switch already. I've noticed
however, that if I'm not careful, an old wiring harness may not work
with my new switch (due to the wiring being different).
There are too many switches, ('84 vs ''83 and
earlier, 5sp vs. 4sp, etc.) I've got the VW tech bulletin that tells
me how to do the wiring for the newer switches -- I'm going to do it
proper and hope that should I ever need a new switch in the future
(which I'm sure I will, it will just be a matter of buying a new one).

Thanks,
Bryan


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On 2006-06-22, Matt B. > wrote:
> Bigger is better than smaller...less resistance, brighter lamps.

Sounds great. It appears that the 000979227 is what I need. I'm not
positive, but that is what I'm going to get and we will see how it
turns out.

Thanks,
Bryan Walton

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sounds good and good luck to you! ;-)

"Bryan K. Walton" > wrote in message
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> On 2006-06-22, One out of many Daves > wrote:
>> what about asking if someone has some old wiring harness for you? Maybe
>> they will sell you that plug with some length of wiring left on it?
>> Solder, crimp or whatever to get it wired in.
>> Early A2's plugs might work too. Should I cut one off a junked car for
>> you?
>> ;-)
>> BTW there should be different switches that look similar.
>
> Hi Dave,
> Your last sentence sums up exactly why I've decided to simply
> redo everything. I've got a brand new switch already. I've noticed
> however, that if I'm not careful, an old wiring harness may not work
> with my new switch (due to the wiring being different).
> There are too many switches, ('84 vs ''83 and
> earlier, 5sp vs. 4sp, etc.) I've got the VW tech bulletin that tells
> me how to do the wiring for the newer switches -- I'm going to do it
> proper and hope that should I ever need a new switch in the future
> (which I'm sure I will, it will just be a matter of buying a new one).
>
> Thanks,
> Bryan
>
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On 2006-06-22, Bryan K. Walton > wrote:
>
> Sounds great. It appears that the 000979227 is what I need. I'm not
> positive, but that is what I'm going to get and we will see how it
> turns out.

Hi, I wanted to follow up on this thread in case anybody ever needs to
order these electrical connectors for their backup light switch. As it
turns out, part # 000979227 is NOT what I needed. This part actually
has two of the connectors on EACH end (only needed one) -- side by side.
I may be able to actually cut off one of the connectors on each wire
end to make them work, not sure yet. However, if I have to order more
wires for this part, I'll order 000979225 the next go around.

-Bryan

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I gotta tell you, I've owned three Mk1 VW's and not a single one of
them had working back-up lights. At least two of those cars didn't even
have the appropriate wiring in them. Even the Mk2 car I have now has
faulty reverse lights lights. And it's so magical how people know
you're trying to back up when those lights work. It's almost hard to
imagine.

Good luck!
Maxine


Bryan K. Walton wrote:
> On 2006-06-22, Bryan K. Walton > wrote:
> >
> > Sounds great. It appears that the 000979227 is what I need. I'm not
> > positive, but that is what I'm going to get and we will see how it
> > turns out.
>
> Hi, I wanted to follow up on this thread in case anybody ever needs to
> order these electrical connectors for their backup light switch. As it
> turns out, part # 000979227 is NOT what I needed. This part actually
> has two of the connectors on EACH end (only needed one) -- side by side.
> I may be able to actually cut off one of the connectors on each wire
> end to make them work, not sure yet. However, if I have to order more
> wires for this part, I'll order 000979225 the next go around.
>
> -Bryan
>
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