Trip and hmmmmm......

But guys, there are always more efficient / less efficient ways to expend
said energy. You don't have to blast it all out at once creating a hi
performance experience, it could be more 'trickled out' to keep the gas
engine from running so much. Lanny seem to understand where I was trying to
go with this. Let the electric only help out to the point of ~10 second 0-60
time and that leaves that much more energy still stored up to keep the gas
engine off more or longer. IMHO they are missing out on a rather large group
of people who'd like to be as efficient as possible and could easily live
with even 11 or even 12 second 0-60 sprints. Most non turbo diesels are
still pretty darn slow right?

Chris
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Chris D'Agnolo > wrote:
>
> But guys, there are always more efficient / less efficient ways to expend
> said energy. You don't have to blast it all out at once creating a hi
> performance experience, it could be more 'trickled out' to keep the gas
> engine from running so much. Lanny seem to understand where I was trying to
> go with this. Let the electric only help out to the point of ~10 second 0-60
> time and that leaves that much more energy still stored up to keep the gas
> engine off more or longer.

There's already a way of doing this, at least in my Prius. It involves
not putting the pedal to the metal all the time.

Works surprisingly well. :-)

cu
.\\arc

(Marc Gerges) wrote:

>Chris D'Agnolo > wrote:
>>
>> But guys, there are always more efficient / less efficient ways to expend
>> said energy. You don't have to blast it all out at once creating a hi
>> performance experience, it could be more 'trickled out' to keep the gas
>> engine from running so much. Lanny seem to understand where I was trying to
>> go with this. Let the electric only help out to the point of ~10 second 0-60
>> time and that leaves that much more energy still stored up to keep the gas
>> engine off more or longer.
>
>There's already a way of doing this, at least in my Prius. It involves
>not putting the pedal to the metal all the time.
>
>Works surprisingly well. :-)

Absolutely. If the point was the car companies big-brothering their
customers, they could just hand them directions to the bus stop
and build them a car that does not start.

The idea of hybrids is to provide what the customer wants at less
gas, not to dictate to them what they want.

Leon
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Leave it up to us consumers ! Aaaaaarrrgghhh, we can't be trusted! Just
kidding, you both make a good point. I guess I just find it hard to believe
that they couldn't finagle considerably better mileage if they'd used
gearing / electronics that yielded reasonable performance instead of
exceptional. If they think the consumer has to have that high performance in
order to drop cash for the hybrid, I'm betting they are wrong. However,
since it's their cash that's being bet, they've made the trade-offs they no
doubt see fit.

Chris
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