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Old July 12th 07, 03:11 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

Alan Baker wrote:
>In article et>,
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
>
>> I'm all for this ban but the real reason should be to stop the killing
>> on our roads. Only a psychopath drives 100 mph.

>
>German autobahns are safer than our highways...


That's because retards aren't driving on the autobahns; we can't make
that same statement about US highways.


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Old July 12th 07, 03:11 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
>Marc Gerges wrote:
>
>>
>> Funnily, I wouldn't have an issue with this; I've done thousands of
>> miles at triple digit speeds, and usually the time that you won by
>> driving fast is being lost at the fuel pump. There's no benefit in
>> driving faster than 80-90 mph in my eyes.
>>

>
>Idiot. You mean 50 mph.


Damned, there you go again, proving you can't read worth a ****.


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Old July 12th 07, 05:20 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein):
> Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >Marc Gerges wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Funnily, I wouldn't have an issue with this; I've done thousands of
> >> miles at triple digit speeds, and usually the time that you won by
> >> driving fast is being lost at the fuel pump. There's no benefit in
> >> driving faster than 80-90 mph in my eyes.
> >>

> >
> >Idiot. You mean 50 mph.

>
> Damned, there you go again, proving you can't read worth a ****.


For SFB, "read worth a ****," would be a vast improvement.

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Old July 12th 07, 06:05 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:

> I'm all for this ban but the real reason should be to stop the killing
> on our roads. Only a psychopath drives 100 mph.
>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Gw8&refer=home
>
> Cutting CO2 or a Sneak Attack on Porsche, Ferrari?: Doron Levin
>
> By Doron Levin
>
> July 10 (Bloomberg) -- If one of the more extreme responses to global
> warming comes true, driving a sports car anywhere but on a racetrack
> might be relegated to history's dustbin.
>
> Fast, powerful cars within a few years may be outlawed in Europe, an
> idea that has been raised ostensibly because Ferraris and Porsches
> produce too much carbon dioxide. For those who abhor sports cars as
> vulgar symbols of affluence (along with vacation homes, furs and fancy
> jewelry), such a ban could be a two-fer: Saving the planet while cutting
> economic inequality.
>
> Who are these people anyway who decide on behalf of everyone what car is
> proper to drive? In the U.S. they're members of Congress, which is
> considering fuel-efficiency standards that will affect vehicle size. In
> Europe, it's the ministers and parliamentarians of the European Union,
> which wants to limit how much CO2 cars can emit as a proxy for a fuel-
> consumption standard.
>
> Chris Davies, a British member of the European Parliament, is proposing
> one of the most-extreme measures -- a prohibition on any car that goes
> faster than 162 kilometers (101 miles) an hour, a speed that everything
> from the humble Honda Civic on up can exceed. He ridiculed fast cars as
> ``boys' toys.''
>
> The proposed ban would take effect in 2013. Davies told the Guardian
> newspaper that ``cars designed to go at stupid speeds have to be built
> to withstand the effects of a crash at those speeds. They are heavier
> than necessary, less fuel-efficient and produce too many emissions.''
>
> His last point is telling, even though there are many reasons why cars
> are heavier, including safety measures such as air bags and
> steel-reinforced crumple zones.
>
> The idea is to limit CO2, a so-called greenhouse gas blamed for causing
> the earth's temperature to rise.
>
> But the debate isn't just about how much carbon dioxide to allow into
> the atmosphere and whether the amount actually matters. It's also about
> disdain some hold for the size or speed of the cars others drive.
>
> (snip)


They should ban bread first! This sounds like a Bush idea???



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Old July 12th 07, 07:09 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

In article >,
"Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> >In article et>,
> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm all for this ban but the real reason should be to stop the killing
> >> on our roads. Only a psychopath drives 100 mph.

> >
> >German autobahns are safer than our highways...

>
> That's because retards aren't driving on the autobahns; we can't make
> that same statement about US highways.


So you admit that it isn't speed per se that is the problem.

This is progress.

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to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
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  #16  
Old July 12th 07, 01:36 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
> Marc Gerges wrote:
>>
>> Funnily, I wouldn't have an issue with this; I've done thousands of
>> miles at triple digit speeds, and usually the time that you won by
>> driving fast is being lost at the fuel pump. There's no benefit in
>> driving faster than 80-90 mph in my eyes.

>
> Idiot. You mean 50 mph.


I'm not an idiot, and although I need to to check conversion rates for
speeds to be sure what I'm speaking of, I am positive about a.m. 80-90.

cu
.\\arc
  #17  
Old July 12th 07, 01:41 PM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sports.nascar
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Sandy > wrote:
> "Marc Gerges" > wrote in message
> ...
> > There's no benefit in driving faster than 80-90 mph in my eyes.
>>

>
> The benefit is that you get where you're going sooner. Duh.
>


Yes - in theory. In practice at most times on most roads I drive there's
enough traffic and other reason to reduce your speed that in the end you
won't spend a lot of time at 100+ mph and therefore your time saving is
relatively minor. You will spend a lot of time accelerating to this kind
of speed and that is expensive in gas.

Real world numbers I pushed a car capable of 140mph on german highways
for a trip of about 3 hours and won about 15 minutes. Cost a lot of
stress and a fill up (which cost those fifteen minutes). Not worth it
for me. Maybe different on other roads and conditions.

cu
.\\arc
  #18  
Old July 13th 07, 12:10 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

Alan Baker wrote:
>In article >,
> "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
> > wrote:
>
>> Alan Baker wrote:
>> >In article et>,
>> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm all for this ban but the real reason should be to stop the killing
>> >> on our roads. Only a psychopath drives 100 mph.
>> >
>> >German autobahns are safer than our highways...

>>
>> That's because retards aren't driving on the autobahns; we can't make
>> that same statement about US highways.

>
>So you admit that it isn't speed per se that is the problem.
>
>This is progress.


I've never stated speed was the problem; I've always maintained driver
incompetence and inattention is the problem.
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Old July 13th 07, 01:43 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

In article >,
"Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
> wrote:

> Alan Baker wrote:
> >In article >,
> > "Murderous Speeding Drunken Distracted Driver (Hector Goldstein)"
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> Alan Baker wrote:
> >> >In article et>,
> >> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm all for this ban but the real reason should be to stop the killing
> >> >> on our roads. Only a psychopath drives 100 mph.
> >> >
> >> >German autobahns are safer than our highways...
> >>
> >> That's because retards aren't driving on the autobahns; we can't make
> >> that same statement about US highways.

> >
> >So you admit that it isn't speed per se that is the problem.
> >
> >This is progress.

>
> I've never stated speed was the problem; I've always maintained driver
> incompetence and inattention is the problem.


Then why aren't you campaigning for adequate driver training? Why are
you always insisting that the only possible solution is to lower speed
limits?

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to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
  #20  
Old July 13th 07, 11:59 AM posted to rec.autos.driving,alt.law-enforcement.traffic,alt.true-crime,alt.nuke.the.usa,rec.autos.sport.nascar
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Default Europe Considers BAN ON SPORTS CARS to Combat Global Warming

Alan Baker wrote:
>> >So you admit that it isn't speed per se that is the problem.
>> >
>> >This is progress.

>>
>> I've never stated speed was the problem; I've always maintained driver
>> incompetence and inattention is the problem.

>
>Then why aren't you campaigning for adequate driver training? Why are
>you always insisting that the only possible solution is to lower speed
>limits?


You've got me confused with someone else.

Only a retard would believe safety comes from traveling at specific
velocity, and not from being aware of their surroundings and acting
accordingly.


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