!66 V6 2.5 Power Delivery

Hi,

My 166 has just completed 50K Miles and I noticed a few weeks ago that when
I start off and excelerate the car power delivery stutters, once I am at
cruising speed it seems fine.

Today I jumped in the car and the symptoms were much worse, the car was
really lumpy and was even giving blow back 'pops'.
As I got up the gears the car improved but when I excelerate you can really
feel the car 'dragging'.

As the car warms up the things gets much better and as I say at cruising
speed its not an issue.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Seb

Seb > wrote:

> Hi,
>
> My 166 has just completed 50K Miles and I noticed a few weeks ago that when
> I start off and excelerate the car power delivery stutters, once I am at
> cruising speed it seems fine.
>
> Today I jumped in the car and the symptoms were much worse, the car was
> really lumpy and was even giving blow back 'pops'.
> As I got up the gears the car improved but when I excelerate you can really
> feel the car 'dragging'.
>
> As the car warms up the things gets much better and as I say at cruising
> speed its not an issue.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.

Sounds like the air-flow meter needs replacing to me.

Avoid the ones on ebay - they're cheaply made fakes.


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"SteveH" > wrote in message
. ..
> Seb > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> My 166 has just completed 50K Miles and I noticed a few weeks ago that
>> when
>> I start off and excelerate the car power delivery stutters, once I am at
>> cruising speed it seems fine.
>>
>> Today I jumped in the car and the symptoms were much worse, the car was
>> really lumpy and was even giving blow back 'pops'.
>> As I got up the gears the car improved but when I excelerate you can
>> really
>> feel the car 'dragging'.
>>
>> As the car warms up the things gets much better and as I say at cruising
>> speed its not an issue.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> Sounds like the air-flow meter needs replacing to me.
>
> Avoid the ones on ebay - they're cheaply made fakes.
>


Thanks SteveH, I had an inkling that it might be that from searching Google
but I wanted to check that people thought my symptoms were conclusive with
the Air Flow prob.

What make should I make sure gets fitted, i.e. an actual Alfa part ?

Seb

The Anstey > wrote:

> > Sounds like the air-flow meter needs replacing to me.
> >
> > Avoid the ones on ebay - they're cheaply made fakes.
> >
>
>
> Thanks SteveH, I had an inkling that it might be that from searching Google
> but I wanted to check that people thought my symptoms were conclusive with
> the Air Flow prob.
>
> What make should I make sure gets fitted, i.e. an actual Alfa part ?

They're made by Bosch. Any motor factor should be able to get one for
you - if they don't have it in stock - it's a generic part used by many
different manufacturers. If you order from Alfa, you'll just get the
same Bosch part anyway.

The ebay ones are sold as Bosch, but a friend bought one only to find it
was a cheap fake. He did get a refund, but it caused him lots of hassle.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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"SteveH" > wrote in message
. ..
> The Anstey > wrote:
>
>> > Sounds like the air-flow meter needs replacing to me.
>> >
>> > Avoid the ones on ebay - they're cheaply made fakes.
>> >
>>
>>
>> Thanks SteveH, I had an inkling that it might be that from searching
>> Google
>> but I wanted to check that people thought my symptoms were conclusive
>> with
>> the Air Flow prob.
>>
>> What make should I make sure gets fitted, i.e. an actual Alfa part ?
>
> They're made by Bosch. Any motor factor should be able to get one for
> you - if they don't have it in stock - it's a generic part used by many
> different manufacturers. If you order from Alfa, you'll just get the
> same Bosch part anyway.
>
> The ebay ones are sold as Bosch, but a friend bought one only to find it
> was a cheap fake. He did get a refund, but it caused him lots of hassle.
> --

Thanks for the info SteveH, I have just phoned around for a quote and told
£200.00 fitted. Is it the sort of job thats easy for an amateur to do?I dont
do lots of mechanics but I did change the front brake pads on my car. Is it
level of a job or should I just get it booked in?

Cheers
Seb

"Seb" > wrote in message
...
>
> "SteveH" > wrote in message
> . ..
>> The Anstey > wrote:
>>
>>> > Sounds like the air-flow meter needs replacing to me.
>>> >
>>> > Avoid the ones on ebay - they're cheaply made fakes.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks SteveH, I had an inkling that it might be that from searching
>>> Google
>>> but I wanted to check that people thought my symptoms were conclusive
>>> with
>>> the Air Flow prob.
>>>
>>> What make should I make sure gets fitted, i.e. an actual Alfa part ?
>>
>> They're made by Bosch. Any motor factor should be able to get one for
>> you - if they don't have it in stock - it's a generic part used by many
>> different manufacturers. If you order from Alfa, you'll just get the
>> same Bosch part anyway.
>>
>> The ebay ones are sold as Bosch, but a friend bought one only to find it
>> was a cheap fake. He did get a refund, but it caused him lots of hassle.
>> --

Thanks for the info SteveH, I have just phoned around for a quote and told
£200.00 fitted. Is it the sort of job thats easy for an amateur to do?
I don't do lots of mechanics but I did change the front brake pads on my
car. Is it that level of a job or should I just get it booked in?

Cheers
Seb

Seb > wrote:

> > The ebay ones are sold as Bosch, but a friend bought one only to find it
> > was a cheap fake. He did get a refund, but it caused him lots of hassle.
> > --
>
> Thanks for the info SteveH, I have just phoned around for a quote and told
> £200.00 fitted. Is it the sort of job thats easy for an amateur to do?I dont
> do lots of mechanics but I did change the front brake pads on my car. Is it
> level of a job or should I just get it booked in?

Sounds about right for a fitted cost, however, if you can do brake pads
you're more than capable of doing the job yourself.

Should take no longer than half an hour.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
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Seb > wrote:

> >> They're made by Bosch. Any motor factor should be able to get one for
> >> you - if they don't have it in stock - it's a generic part used by many
> >> different manufacturers. If you order from Alfa, you'll just get the
> >> same Bosch part anyway.
> >>
> >> The ebay ones are sold as Bosch, but a friend bought one only to find it
> >> was a cheap fake. He did get a refund, but it caused him lots of hassle.
> >> --
>
> Thanks for the info SteveH, I have just phoned around for a quote and told
> £200.00 fitted. Is it the sort of job thats easy for an amateur to do?
> I don't do lots of mechanics but I did change the front brake pads on my
> car. Is it that level of a job or should I just get it booked in?

As posted elsewhere..... if you can change brake pads yourself, an
airflow meter is an easy half hour DIY job.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

"SteveH" > wrote in message
...
> Seb > wrote:
>
>> >> They're made by Bosch. Any motor factor should be able to get one for
>> >> you - if they don't have it in stock - it's a generic part used by
>> >> many
>> >> different manufacturers. If you order from Alfa, you'll just get the
>> >> same Bosch part anyway.
>> >>
>> >> The ebay ones are sold as Bosch, but a friend bought one only to find
>> >> it
>> >> was a cheap fake. He did get a refund, but it caused him lots of
>> >> hassle.
>> >> --
>>
>> Thanks for the info SteveH, I have just phoned around for a quote and
>> told
>> £200.00 fitted. Is it the sort of job thats easy for an amateur to do?
>> I don't do lots of mechanics but I did change the front brake pads on my
>> car. Is it that level of a job or should I just get it booked in?
>
> As posted elsewhere..... if you can change brake pads yourself, an
> airflow meter is an easy half hour DIY job.

OK, I will save myself some money and have ago myself .
Do you have a link I can goto with step by step instructions of how to fit
it. I have had a Google and can't find specific instructions.
Thanks again for your help.
Seb

Seb > wrote:

> > As posted elsewhere..... if you can change brake pads yourself, an
> > airflow meter is an easy half hour DIY job.
>
> OK, I will save myself some money and have ago myself .
> Do you have a link I can goto with step by step instructions of how to fit
> it. I have had a Google and can't find specific instructions.
> Thanks again for your help.

Google for '156 MAF replacement'

You can google 'MAF replacement' for just about any recent Alfa as
they're all the same.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #