A lap around "The Ring"

Absolutely painful...it dislodged some earwax I've been living with since
1955.

(BTW, Assen--the long course--is an add-on track for GTR...and a great
online venue. OTOH, "Dutch supercars" is an oxymoron - what are they
driving, DAFs?)

"Robin Lord" > wrote in message
...
> > Wow. Never realised how much noise the gearbox/power train really
> > makes. You can hardly hear the engine at high speeds.
>
> If you think the noise is bad on that, check out this
> http://www.supercarchallenge.nl/video/assen-bmwstw.wmv
> Great vid where a 320i starts at the back and works his way through
>
> Robin
>
>

"Steve Smith" wrote...
> Absolutely painful...it dislodged some earwax I've been
> living with since 1955.
>
> (BTW, Assen--the long course--is an add-on track for GTR
> ...and a great online venue. OTOH, "Dutch supercars" is
> an oxymoron - what are they driving, DAFs?)

The people at Spijker and Donkervoort are gonna love you for that nugget,
Steve. ;-)

Jan.
=---

Steve Smith wrote:

> (BTW, Assen--the long course--is an add-on track for GTR...and a great
> online venue. OTOH, "Dutch supercars" is an oxymoron - what are they
> driving, DAFs?)

I'll have you know, I've seen a picture of a DAF formula car with none
other than Jack Brabham at the wheel!

Oh, and the reason we don't have a supercar tradition is that of course,
we didn't NEED to outrun the cops since it was all legal over here anyway.



Regards, Rudy
(GPLRank -24)

That ain't the only thing that's legal in the Lowlands, Gott sei dank. Go
Dutch!

"Ruud Dingemans" > wrote in message
...
> Steve Smith wrote:
>
> > (BTW, Assen--the long course--is an add-on track for GTR...and a great
> > online venue. OTOH, "Dutch supercars" is an oxymoron - what are they
> > driving, DAFs?)
>
> I'll have you know, I've seen a picture of a DAF formula car with none
> other than Jack Brabham at the wheel!
>
> Oh, and the reason we don't have a supercar tradition is that of course,
> we didn't NEED to outrun the cops since it was all legal over here anyway.
>
>
>
> Regards, Rudy
> (GPLRank -24)

Possible that this link died? I know I read the site can only 'download it'
once an hour (20meg/hr limit) but I dont know what to exect when I click on
the link in the forum, seems to take me to a page that acts like the link is
no good?

Jan Verschueren enlightened us with:
> "Steve Smith" wrote...
>> Yep. Dead as a box of hair.
>
> This one, though a little convoluted, works. Be sure to read the
> download instructions in the post.
>
> http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showth...&page=22&pp=20
>
> Jan.
> =---

"Plowboy" wrote...
> Possible that this link died? I know I read the site can
> only 'download it' once an hour (20meg/hr limit) but I
> dont know what to exect when I click on the link in the
> forum, seems to take me to a page that acts like the link
> is no good?

Yes, I know it looks odd, but follow the link from the post and click on the
"free" button at the bottom once that page has loaded (as explained in the
post).

You will be taken to another bland looking page, with a little frame at the
bottom counting down 45secs or so (miniscule text), once the counter counts
down, a download link for the movie will appear.

Jan.
=---

>Im mean seriously, how could BMW go wrong in this instance?

Suppose they licence their car to a publisher for a "sim" and it
the marketing guys at the publishing company convince the developers to
turn it into Need for Speed cop-killer 2006 (purely fictional title I
hope), and it turns into a cult classic with the console crowd, so of
course CNN, Fox and 60 minutes produce "in depth" specials, then every
ambulance chaser in the inner city who's been near a hit and run
launches a nuisance suit against the car and game manufacturer which
they have to spend millions defending.

If you're a lawyer in a conservative company and don't know
anything about the game market (except that the average console player
can't afford a BMW so you likely won't generate any sales) you might
just give it a pass.

Or something along those lines.....

mcewena wrote:

>>Im mean seriously, how could BMW go wrong in this instance?
>
> Suppose they licence their car to a publisher for a "sim" and it
> the marketing guys at the publishing company convince the developers to
> turn it into Need for Speed cop-killer 2006 (purely fictional title I
> hope), and it turns into a cult classic with the console crowd, so of
> course CNN, Fox and 60 minutes produce "in depth" specials, then every
> ambulance chaser in the inner city who's been near a hit and run
> launches a nuisance suit against the car and game manufacturer which
> they have to spend millions defending.
>
> If you're a lawyer in a conservative company and don't know
> anything about the game market (except that the average console player
> can't afford a BMW so you likely won't generate any sales) you might
> just give it a pass.
>
> Or something along those lines.....

good points. Dam lawyers...

Mitch
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Um, yes, except that...

1. The licensee can reserve the right to vet the final product (as Ferrari
did with GPL), and/or

2. BMW already *has* a car in GTR: the decidedly unlovely Z3M hatchback...so
it's not like they've already put their best foot forward, hmmmn?

"mcewena" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> >Im mean seriously, how could BMW go wrong in this instance?
>
> Suppose they licence their car to a publisher for a "sim" and it
> the marketing guys at the publishing company convince the developers to
> turn it into Need for Speed cop-killer 2006 (purely fictional title I
> hope), and it turns into a cult classic with the console crowd, so of
> course CNN, Fox and 60 minutes produce "in depth" specials, then every
> ambulance chaser in the inner city who's been near a hit and run
> launches a nuisance suit against the car and game manufacturer which
> they have to spend millions defending.
>
> If you're a lawyer in a conservative company and don't know
> anything about the game market (except that the average console player
> can't afford a BMW so you likely won't generate any sales) you might
> just give it a pass.
>
> Or something along those lines.....
>

>1. The licensee can reserve the right to vet the final product (as
Ferrari
>did with GPL), and/or

GPL without Ferrari would have been like a Nascar sim without an
Earnhart so maybe they got a special veto (much like they do in real
F1).

They can ask, but the publisher can say no and the vendor can walk away
from the table. Point is there's dozens of reasons a licencing deal
can fall through and I didn't even get to money...

>2. BMW already *has* a car in GTR: the decidedly unlovely Z3M
hatchback...so
>it's not like they've already put their best foot forward, hmmmn?

A car who's reputation they can't wreck