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Old September 28th 10, 01:53 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
NoOp[_2_]
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Default Fastest Mustang Ever?

This year there are more Mustangs available to pony car customers than
ever before. Everyone one seems to have their own running around;
Roush, Saleen, SMS, and Ford Racing all offer a little something for
the Mustang enthusiast.

Oh, and you can't forget that guy from Las Vegas, Carroll Shelby, a
man who is as legendary as the Mustang itself.

In land of numbers where engine size, horsepower, rear-gear ratios,
five-speed, six-speed, top-speed, and torque are all that matter,
Shelby is a man where numbers are more than just scribbled writing on
a piece of paper, but they are the car itself, and the 2011 Ford
Shelby GT350 is no different.

Paying homage to the off-the-line race car created in 1965 to market
the Mustang as a performance vehicle, the 2011 is no different.
Offering a 5.0-liter, Whipple supercharged engine, the Shelby GT350 is
one of the fastest Mustangs ever without producing the most power.
The blown 5.0 produces 525 horsepower and 490 lb-ft of torque. It
lays out a supercar-like 0-60 mph run in just 3.7 seconds and
completes the quarter-mile in 12 seconds flat at 121.4 mph.

Patrick


Handling has also increased over the last few years, and the Shelby
GT350 just takes it to the next level, grabbing a very sticky 1.05 g
on the skidpad thanks to Ford Racing shocks. Only a few thousand will
be made, so get those checkbooks ready if you can throw down an
estimated $60,000 for the 2011 Ford Shelby GT350.
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Old September 28th 10, 05:04 AM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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Default Fastest Mustang Ever?

A Mustang-bodied dragster with a Chrysler Hemi engine.
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Old October 3rd 10, 07:32 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
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Well... that "Chrysler Hemi Engine" is a real loose fit. There are a few
hemi knock offs used in top fuel and alcohol cars... but I don't tionk any
of these teams are using stock hemi blocks. Ed Pink and Kieth Black are two
names that come to mind but I imagine both of these gentlemen are either on
the other side of the grass or pretty close to it.

NHRA has a 500 CI limit (Something IHRA hasn't had in the past and I'm not
sure of currently).

Some care needs to be taken in assessing photographs of straight line cars.
Even back in the 50s many flathead (predominantly series 60) Ford engines
could be mistaken for early (10 bolt head) hemi engines simply because they
were fitted with ArDun cylinder heads. Zora Arkus-Duntov (known as the
father of the Corvette) manufactured a series of cylinder heads for the
flathead V8. These heads moved the valve into the head rather than the block
and gave the Ford a 392Hemi look. (Be it known, the Chrysler hemi has a
long and varied past.... from as low as nearly 300 inches to over 400 inches
in displacement... Your lack of research shows).

The 427 SOHC Ford engine enjoyed some success... but this was, again, a mass
produced engine thrown into an exotic world. There isn't a whole bunch of
difference between Modular engines and the SOHC.. well - other than bore
spacing., cylinder head design, head bolt placement, do I need to contiue?

Dodge brags up their 350 inch Hemi....

FWIW, I believe that John Force (and probably others) are developing a Ford
block to win that advertising edge.

Before I forget... would you be interested in knowing that the "cooling
system" on top fuel cars is filled with grout? Would it interest you to know
that a top fuel engine turns less than 1000 revolutions between launch and
traps?

Chrysler doesn't have a monopoly on the hemi chamber. You might want to read
Harry Ricardos book.


"Rich" > wrote in message
news
> A Mustang-bodied dragster with a Chrysler Hemi engine.



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Old October 4th 10, 04:11 PM posted to rec.autos.makers.ford.mustang
Dillon Pyron[_2_]
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Default Fastest Mustang Ever?

Thus spake "Jim Warman" > :

>Well... that "Chrysler Hemi Engine" is a real loose fit. There are a few
>hemi knock offs used in top fuel and alcohol cars... but I don't tionk any
>of these teams are using stock hemi blocks. Ed Pink and Kieth Black are two
>names that come to mind but I imagine both of these gentlemen are either on
>the other side of the grass or pretty close to it.


I remember when Ed Pink rolled out his 392 based 417. I could never
figure out why 1) 392 vs 426 2) 417.

KB is still around, last time I looked. Ed was a lot older.

>
>NHRA has a 500 CI limit (Something IHRA hasn't had in the past and I'm not
>sure of currently).


490 min, 500 max. NHRA rulebook in hand. Not IHRA member so no
rulebook. (Although it is online as an "autobook", complete with
annoying flip sounds)

>
>Some care needs to be taken in assessing photographs of straight line cars.
>Even back in the 50s many flathead (predominantly series 60) Ford engines
>could be mistaken for early (10 bolt head) hemi engines simply because they
>were fitted with ArDun cylinder heads. Zora Arkus-Duntov (known as the
>father of the Corvette) manufactured a series of cylinder heads for the
>flathead V8. These heads moved the valve into the head rather than the block
>and gave the Ford a 392Hemi look. (Be it known, the Chrysler hemi has a
>long and varied past.... from as low as nearly 300 inches to over 400 inches
>in displacement... Your lack of research shows).


I saw lots of 352 DeSoto engines in A/FD and now in B/ND (ie Junior
Fuel). Also a few 392s. And even a destroked Rat motor. (410 max)

>
>The 427 SOHC Ford engine enjoyed some success... but this was, again, a mass
>produced engine thrown into an exotic world. There isn't a whole bunch of
>difference between Modular engines and the SOHC.. well - other than bore
>spacing., cylinder head design, head bolt placement, do I need to contiue?


The Cammer was based on the FE block and I think some WERE FE blocks
that just didn't use the pushrod guides.

The Cammer was really a NASCAR engine, built for steady RPM rather
that the 3000 to 9000 in 6 seconds that AA/FD put on it at the time.
In his autobiography, Prudhome says he broke a lot of blocks and tons
of heads because of this, but for some reason Sneaky Pete had no such
problems. I recently saw a repro of one of his FED at Bake.

>
>Dodge brags up their 350 inch Hemi....


Yeah, and lots of guys brag of .... Ooops, wrong NG :-)
>
>FWIW, I believe that John Force (and probably others) are developing a Ford
>block to win that advertising edge.


NHRA requires prior approvla of any engine for use in TF or FC. But I
bet that having the Force name behine it would go a long way.

>
>Before I forget... would you be interested in knowing that the "cooling
>system" on top fuel cars is filled with grout?


Stated many, many years ago. There was one guy (can't remember his
name, ran out of some swamps in Floridat) who put solid aluminum heads
on his car. The concept was something like the heads would heat
quickly and evenly and alos disappated the heat quickly. But there
were some oiling problems. NHRA requires a one pint catch can, but I
think not using "water" at all also improves/controls heat disipation.

>Would it interest you to know
>that a top fuel engine turns less than 1000 revolutions between launch and
>traps?


My "math" (( (6000 PRM launch/3.7 ET + 9000 /3.7)/2) gives a little
over 2000 RPM. But a) my calculation method may be incorrect and 2)
given the scale we're talking about, the difference is piddly.

(BTW, a bullet traveling at 1300 ft/sec with a 1 in 9" rifling will
penetrate a 14 inch gel target in a little over 2 revoltions, going
about 1733 RPM. These numbers come out of my Springfield 1911 in .40
S&W with 135 grn CorBons)

>
>Chrysler doesn't have a monopoly on the hemi chamber. You might want to read
>Harry Ricardos book.


Without having his book in my library, who was it that had the penta
head?

>
>
>"Rich" > wrote in message
>news
>> A Mustang-bodied dragster with a Chrysler Hemi engine.

>

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