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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
"johnny p." > wrote:
>Before you start looking at the electronics, you should buy a pack of >taillight bulbs and see if both main brake light filaments did actually >both blow out at once. Worse come to worst, you'll have only spent >$2.75, and you can stick the bulbs in a drawer, and someday you'll blow >out a bulb and you'll already have the replacement at hand. > >For one thing, you could have had two of the three bulbs blown out for >weeks but you never noticed. Guess what guys..... this was the problem!! I replaced ALL lamps in rear tail lights and now have working brake lights again!! I guess above poster was correct..... the lamps did NOT go al out at once but must have gone out one at a time and as long as one was working then no one stopped me to tell me. When the last one went out.... an older lady stopped me to tell me I had no brake lights at all!! Bottom line I am deeply thankful to ALL who offered help!! Now I just have to figure out why cruise control quit abt a month ago |
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
> wrote in message
... > Geary Morton > wrote: > >>Since the cruise isn't working, I would go straight to the stoplight >>switch on the brake pedal. Mazdas with cruise have a combo switch that >>is both for disengaging the cruise and actuating the brakelights. > > OK thanks will do! > > However, since the car is 9 yrs old and have never > changed any taillights I'm going ahead and change ALL > lights front and back since it is summer and easier to > do now. > > Knowing my luck even if I get the brake switch fixed, a > bulb will burn out say in dead of winter and much more > unpleasant to change then as I have no garage. > > Also, one of the bulbs had odd ball socket "tabs" on it > that were NOT 180 degrees apart but instead more like > 120 degrees apart! So had to have Oreillys special > order them . <sigh> since your cruise control is not working, i encourage you to download the service manual and follow the problem resolution procedure. it seems very straight forward. it would be nice if changing the bulbs helped but i think that is a fantasy. fwiw, stepping on the brake is the most common way to deactivate the cruise control, so it seems reasonable that there is an interaction between the two, though it seems odd that they didn't design the switch on the brake pedal with multiple distinct functions (one circuit for lamps, one for cruise control), probably saved a few pennies by making it a single function switch, but might have been some sort of safety feature that escapes my imagination. |
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
> wrote in message
... > "johnny p." > wrote: > >>Before you start looking at the electronics, you should buy a pack of >>taillight bulbs and see if both main brake light filaments did actually >>both blow out at once. Worse come to worst, you'll have only spent >>$2.75, and you can stick the bulbs in a drawer, and someday you'll blow >>out a bulb and you'll already have the replacement at hand. >> >>For one thing, you could have had two of the three bulbs blown out for >>weeks but you never noticed. > > > Guess what guys..... this was the problem!! > > I replaced ALL lamps in rear tail lights and now have > working brake lights again!! > > I guess above poster was correct..... the lamps did NOT > go al out at once but must have gone out one at a time > and as long as one was working then no one stopped me > to tell me. When the last one went out.... an older > lady stopped me to tell me I had no brake lights at > all!! > > Bottom line I am deeply thankful to ALL who offered > help!! > > Now I just have to figure out why cruise control quit > abt a month ago wow! well then ignore my other post. so now i wonder if your cruise control is also suddenly functioning again? |
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
"Christopher Muto" > wrote:
>wow! well then ignore my other post. >so now i wonder if your cruise control is also suddenly functioning again? YES!! The cruise control now works as well!! I guess the two systems are interlinked somehow |
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
> wrote in message
... > On Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:23:31 -0500, wrote: > >>"Christopher Muto" > wrote: >> >>>wow! well then ignore my other post. >>>so now i wonder if your cruise control is also suddenly functioning >>>again? >> >>YES!! The cruise control now works as well!! >> >>I guess the two systems are interlinked somehow > The cruise control probably gets 12 volts through the bulbs when you > aren't braking. It sees 0 volts when you apply the brakes. If all > the bulbs are burned out, it sees 0 volts all the time and thinks you > are applying the brakes all the time. great explaination, and clever safety feature. |
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
"Christopher Muto" > wrote:
>that 2002 workshop manual has excellent step by step troubleshooting and >repair procedure starting on page 01-02c. it appears that the lights can >fail if there is a problem with the cruise control module. is your cruise >control working? Christopher Can you look in above manual and see how in the world you change the HIGH rear brake light? For the life of me can not see how you get to it to change it!! |
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2000 Mazda Protege: No brake lights!! Why?
> wrote in message
... > "Christopher Muto" > wrote: > >>that 2002 workshop manual has excellent step by step troubleshooting and >>repair procedure starting on page 01-02c. it appears that the lights can >>fail if there is a problem with the cruise control module. is your cruise >>control working? > > Christopher > > Can you look in above manual and see how in the world > you change the HIGH rear brake light? > > For the life of me can not see how you get to it to > change it!! you should download the entire manual, it is really good. but if you want me to send you the couple of pages then email me privately. the manual does have the information you want with graphics for the hight mount brake lamp, and for the spolier version as well... |
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