So-called "revival" of simracing : blah!

rFactor : 40, perhaps 50 people online MAX at peak times. Leagues are
careful not to switch yet. Plenty of "possibilities" for mods but how many
of them will 1) ever see the finish light 2) be of an actual quality and 3)
be worth if it there's nobody racing them?

GTL : Great cars on washed out neutered tracks. Still the old ISI game
engine filled up with bugs. 3 months of fun then we move on to whatever's
next as developpers don't support it per low sales of it.

NR2003/GPL : still pumping out the races, but how long with the Sierra
servers be kept alive?

GTR : Read what I wrote in GTL but start with "Great modern cars".

LfS : :-|




So hmm what's next? iRacing? GTR2? Some miraculous other sim? People
actually start RACING rFactor? Or we just die like the flightsim community?


My pick : the last one.





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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:29:24 -0400, "ymenard"
> wrote:

>My pick : the last one.

How about the racing sims on consoles getting more and more serious?
GT4, RBR and Enthusia are a big step in the right direction.
For some reason I never liked GTR, too much bugs and after F1C (which
I loved) I really got tired of having to tweak numerous .ini files to
fix all the bugs. After that it's really a delight to put a dvd in the
ps2 and just race..

Andre

"Andre Warringa" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:29:24 -0400, "ymenard"
> > wrote:
>
> >My pick : the last one.
>
> How about the racing sims on consoles getting more and more serious?
> GT4, RBR and Enthusia are a big step in the right direction.
> For some reason I never liked GTR, too much bugs and after F1C (which
> I loved) I really got tired of having to tweak numerous .ini files to
> fix all the bugs. After that it's really a delight to put a dvd in the
> ps2 and just race..
>

Maybe for you......I will never use the PS2 for anything, it's a toy for my kids.

"Dave" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Andre Warringa" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:29:24 -0400, "ymenard"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >My pick : the last one.
>>
>> How about the racing sims on consoles getting more and more serious?
>> GT4, RBR and Enthusia are a big step in the right direction.
>> For some reason I never liked GTR, too much bugs and after F1C (which
>> I loved) I really got tired of having to tweak numerous .ini files to
>> fix all the bugs. After that it's really a delight to put a dvd in the
>> ps2 and just race..
>>
>
> Maybe for you......I will never use the PS2 for anything, it's a toy for
> my kids.
>


Now theres logic, ... "I won't use it because it doesn't say 'built for
daddies too'............."

>Maybe for you......I will never use the PS2 for anything, it's a toy for my kids.

I never thought much about consoles too, untill two years ago I bought
the PS2, mostly because of the Final Fantasy games, and because
pc-gaming was dying rapidly. After that I discovered the fun of not
having to tweak for hours to get a game running smoothly, and sitting
on the couch instead of behind a desk.
Also imho games on consoles have much more quality too, cleary much
more time and money goes into the making of console-games.

I think the sim-racing world would be in awe if something like
Enthusia or GT4 would be released for the PC, unfortunately consoles
still have the name of being for kids only, hence a lot if people are
missing out on some superb sims.

Have you ever tried Enthusia by the way? Rent it, hook up your Momo to
your PS2 and you'll experience what I'm talking about

Andre

>"Andre Warringa" > wrote
> I think the sim-racing world would be in awe if something like
> Enthusia or GT4 would be released for the PC


You mean a no-damage 4-car-multi game with semi-serious physics where the
way to go fast is to bounce into the walls and where the only good graphics
are in the replay mode?





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"Dave" > Got on
his soap box and said:

>
> Maybe for you......I will never use the PS2 for anything, it's a toy
> for my kids.
>

You might want to take a look at yourself and ask who the kid is...

Although out of all my consoles the PS2 as at the bottom of the list in
terms of how much it is played and how much I like it. But it does have
RBR and GT4 with FFB.



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Never say never.

Today the consoles arent an option for me either. Someday that may not be
the case though. When a console can run high res with all the accessories I
can use now (wheels, sticks etc) I'd actually much prefer $3-400 for a
console vs $1000-2000 for a high end PC. Today isnt the day though

Mitch


"Dave" > wrote in message
...
>
> Maybe for you......I will never use the PS2 for anything, it's a toy for
> my kids.
>
>

"Mitch_A" > wrote in message
. ..
> Never say never.
>
> Today the consoles arent an option for me either. Someday that may not be
> the case though. When a console can run high res with all the accessories
> I can use now (wheels, sticks etc) I'd actually much prefer $3-400 for a
> console vs $1000-2000 for a high end PC. Today isnt the day though
>
> Mitch
>

Not to mention that you could say goodbye to every mod, track, etc that
was ever released for any sim - think about that for a sec!

> Not to mention that you could say goodbye to every mod, track, etc that
> was ever released for any sim - think about that for a sec!

and the fact that consoles are commodity items and get replaced by
newer versions. Unless you have space to store them, this means older
games get obsoleted as well.