Car & Driver, some common sense

With $3 gas, we need accurate mpg tests.
BY CSABA CSERE
December 2005

A clip:
Gas prices had been rising steadily for the past year, and then
Hurricane Katrina pushed them well over $3 a gallon, finally exceeding
the previous peak set in May 1981, when gas cost about $1.80,
equivalent today to about three bucks a gallon.

Suddenly, everyone is concerned about fuel economy again. General
Motors touts that it has 19 cars that get more than 30 mpg. Toyota
makes similar ad claims.

And they're true, at least according to the EPA's highway fuel-economy
test. But there's not a snowball's chance that any of these vehicles
will match their EPA-certified mpg when you drive them on a U.S.
highway. In fact, based on the fuel economy we get from C/D test cars,
most vehicles barely match their EPA city fuel-economy numbers while
being driven on the highway.

This discrepancy is not caused by shenanigans on the part of any
automaker. The mileage shortfall is caused by EPA fuel-economy test
cycles that bear no more relation to real-world driving conditions than
a Sunday afternoon bicycle ride does to the Tour de France.


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Larry Bud wrote: <brevity snip>

> The mileage shortfall is caused by EPA fuel-economy test
> cycles that bear no more relation to real-world driving conditions than
> a Sunday afternoon bicycle ride does to the Tour de France.
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Yes, that's why the EPA has always included a disclaimer too
complicated for the general public, something on the order of: "These
estimates are for comparison only. Your mileage may vary". AFAICS, it
doesn't matter how cars are tested as long as they're tested
identically. Nothing wrong with changing the procedure to reflect
closer to real-world mileage except that it'll cost money to fix
something that isn't really broken nor that important.

As a buddy of mine said: When the tank gets empty I gotta put gas in
it no matter what mileage I'm getting...
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- gpsman

BS - you drive slow and sensible and coast up to stop signs and
accelerate slowly and you can meet the EPA numbers. Car&Driver is a
psychopath mag only read by homos like you who drive cars fast and
wild to mask your insecurities.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend, > was motivated
to say this in rec.autos.driving on 21 Nov 2005 10:02:18 -0800:
> Car&Driver is a
> psychopath mag only read by homos like you who drive cars fast and
> wild to mask your insecurities.

Then you must have a lifetime subscription.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> BS - you drive slow and sensible and coast up to stop signs and
> accelerate slowly and you can meet the EPA numbers.

Driving 45 on the highway is not sensible. Even for you.

Larry Bud wrote:
> Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > BS - you drive slow and sensible and coast up to stop signs and
> > accelerate slowly and you can meet the EPA numbers.
>
> Driving 45 on the highway is not sensible. Even for you.

Oh yes it is. Of course it would be better if everyone did 45, but
even if everyone is doing 60-70 it's still safer for me to do 45.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> BS - you drive slow and sensible and coast up to stop signs and
> accelerate slowly and you can meet the EPA numbers. Car&Driver is a
> psychopath mag only read by homos like you who drive cars fast and
> wild to mask your insecurities.

You're the one bragging about your exploits in the bath house, faggot.

Need the message as a reminder of your bragging about your
homosexuallity, cock sucker?

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> Larry Bud wrote:
> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > > BS - you drive slow and sensible and coast up to stop signs and
> > > accelerate slowly and you can meet the EPA numbers.
> >
> > Driving 45 on the highway is not sensible. Even for you.
>
> Oh yes it is. Of course it would be better if everyone did 45, but
> even if everyone is doing 60-70 it's still safer for me to do 45.

Yeah, any faster and that piece of **** beater you paid for by granting
favors at the bath houses is going to fly apart like a librul's thought
processes.

Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> Larry Bud wrote:
> > Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
> > > BS - you drive slow and sensible and coast up to stop signs and
> > > accelerate slowly and you can meet the EPA numbers.
> >
> > Driving 45 on the highway is not sensible. Even for you.
>
> Oh yes it is. Of course it would be better if everyone did 45, but
> even if everyone is doing 60-70 it's still safer for me to do 45.

Of course. 'cause if you ever hit 60 MPH your tires, which are
hideously out of balance due to the several cans of stop leak you put
in them would set up one hell of a vibration and your POS beater with
the rusted-away quarters would snap in half. Of course, since your
parking brake doesn't work the back half of your car would keep on
going no matter how stretched out the cable got, and it would probably
take out some innocent person you bloddthirsty killa!

nate

Larry Bud wrote:
> With $3 gas, we need accurate mpg tests.

I'd be much more interested in accurate HP & torque numbers.