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04 Civic lost keys need new key and remote
I lost a set of keys to my 04 Civic EX. I have another set that has the
'tag' with the key-code. When I take this to the dealer what can I expect to pay for a new key and for a new push-button keyless remote? Is there an aftermarket remote that I can buy? Can only the dealer make a new key (I understand there is a computer chip in it.) Is this a one minute or a one hour job? Thanks, Al |
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04 Civic lost keys need new key and remote
Before you decide where to get them do you have the knowledge to program
them to the car. The information isn't copied to the key. The key has to be programmed in the car. The remote also has to be programmed to the car. Call several dealers and see what they charge to do the complete job as the prices are different in different locations. You will also want them reprogrammed ASAP so whoever has your other key and remote can't steal your car. House keys with the car keys? "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message ... > In article >, > ANC > wrote: > >> When I take this to the dealer what can I expect to pay for a new key and >> for a new push-button keyless remote? >> >> Is there an aftermarket remote that I can buy? Can only the dealer make a >> new key (I understand there is a computer chip in it.) Is this a one >> minute >> or a one hour job? > > Key: my dealer charges around $30 to make a key. They cut it and then > they copy the immobilizer information from the original key to the copy. > > Check with a locksmith; by now they should have access to equipment that > copies the immobilizer information over. > > Remote: don't go to the dealer. Either go ebay, or go to > keylessride.com. Either place will get you a factory remote transmitter > for far less than the dealer. > |
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04 Civic lost keys need new key and remote
Thanks for the help. I believe my keys were thrown out and are now part of
some land fill. I know they were not stolen. They are either lost in the house (since I was able to drive home!) or in the garbage. Still, I guess it is not a bad idea to have existing key and remote and car all re-programmed... and then get a spare key/remote. I looked at keylessride.com and saw a remote for $56. I will call dealership today and see what they charge... but if the car has to be reprogrammed and the old key/remote has to be reprogrammed, it may make sense for me to bite the bullet and get a new remote from the dealer and have them do the whole mess. And I bet I won't get out of there for less than $200. I wonder if they ever have a 'sale' on spare key/remotes???? :-) How long a process SHOULD all of the above take? With my Honda dealer it's always a whole day even if they just change the oil! (Well, it seems like it.) Slowest shop on the planet. If I get a 3rd party remote, is programming it to the car a long and involved deal? I thought there would be some instructions on the web for a n04 Civic, but I've not found any. Anyone know? What should I google for? Al Woody wrote: > Before you decide where to get them do you have the knowledge to program > them to the car. The information isn't copied to the key. The key has to > be programmed in the car. The remote also has to be programmed to the car. > Call several dealers and see what they charge to do the complete job as > the prices are different in different locations. You will also want them > reprogrammed ASAP so whoever has your other key and remote can't steal > your car. House keys with the car keys? > > > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" > wrote in message > ... >> In article >, >> ANC > wrote: >> >>> When I take this to the dealer what can I expect to pay for a new key >>> and for a new push-button keyless remote? >>> >>> Is there an aftermarket remote that I can buy? Can only the dealer make >>> a new key (I understand there is a computer chip in it.) Is this a one >>> minute >>> or a one hour job? >> >> Key: my dealer charges around $30 to make a key. They cut it and then >> they copy the immobilizer information from the original key to the copy. >> >> Check with a locksmith; by now they should have access to equipment that >> copies the immobilizer information over. >> >> Remote: don't go to the dealer. Either go ebay, or go to >> keylessride.com. Either place will get you a factory remote transmitter >> for far less than the dealer. >> |
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04 Civic lost keys need new key and remote
Thanks. This really cleared it up for me. You are right on both issues. I
called my dealer. The parts guy spent some time on phone with me since it was so slow there (being Sat and New YE.) (I also bought 2 cars from them in the past few years.) To recap, I have a working key and a working remote. I want a new one of each (since I lost them both.) 1. He said he can copy the encoding on my working key to a new key: $30 2. He will sell me a new Honda remote push button "fob" for $70 and will give me programming instructions. He said that when I do the programming, I have to do BOTH the new remote AND the old remote at same time. He said that the reprogramming process CHANGES the 'transmitter codes' in the car. Thus, if I only did one remote, the other would not work. I had thought there was ONE code for the car and that if you got a new remote you set it to this code. WRONG. He said for security reasons the reprogramming is REALLY THAT.... it changes the codes so that whomever finds your lost remote can't find your car in the parking lot via the panic button. Makes sense. I found this instruction sheet for reprogramming. Does it look reasonable? http://www.handa-accessories.com/crv/KEYLESSPROG.pdf Here is a factory remote from keylessrides.com for $54: http://tinyurl.com/7msdt There are a ton of remotes on ebay for around $15: http://tinyurl.com/clwke I wonder if the ebay ones will work!! They look like factory original... but might be cheap knockoffs. I think I will try one... can't go wrong for $15 compared to $54. Thanks Elmo and others. I really appreciate your help. Al Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: > In article >, > ANC > wrote: > >> I looked at keylessride.com and saw a remote for $56. I will call >> dealership today and see what they charge... but if the car has to be >> reprogrammed and the old key/remote has to be reprogrammed, it may make >> sense for me to bite the bullet and get a new remote from the dealer and >> have them do the whole mess. > > Hang on now. We're talking two separate issues here. Woody has it > wrong. > > ISSUE 1: > > You have a key, right? And it doesn't have any buttons on it, right? > > That key is electronically keyed to the immobilizer system in your car. > The key must be near the ignition switch, and the switch must be able to > read the codes in the key, in order for the car to start. > > Those codes can be copied from your working key over to a new key, using > equipment that your Honda dealer has. It is easiest simply to go to the > Honda dealer with your working key and ask for a copy. > > > ISSUE 2: > > You have a remote transmitter, right? And it's a unit that's physically > separate from your ignition key, right? > > And the remote transmitter is a Honda piece, from Honda--not an > aftermarket piece, right? > > And you found that same remote transmitter available at keylessride.com, > right? > > Then buy it from keylessride.com. It will come with the instructions > required to tell your car to respond to that new remote transmitter. > The process isn't difficult--but THIS process *does* require that you be > in your car with a key that works the ignition. Regardless, it takes > only about 30 seconds. > > If you buy it from the dealer, you'll pay $120 or more. Then you'll > have to ask them to provide you with the programming steps. They may > choose not to do so; they may choose instead to tell you that their > service department must do it, for an hour's labor. Bulloney. > > The two issues are entirely separate. Immobilizer programming has > nothing to do with remote transmitter programming. (And you don't > program the remote transmitter; you program the car to recognize the > remote transmitter as being valid for that car.) |
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