fitting additional amp and componemt speakers

Hi All

Just purchased my dedicated two channel amp and component speakers.

I have never fitted before - any one got a guide and piccies? I do
know what cables I need but assistance on routing cables from battery
to boot and head unit to boot and doors would be great.

Worth noting I got a 6 month old JL Audio and (RRP £400) and Focal
Speakers, Tweater s, crossovers (RRP £265) for £140!! I have
discovered the second hand market is rubbish - which is good for me ;-)

On 22 Apr, 11:24, wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Just purchased my dedicated two channel amp and component speakers.
>
> I have never fitted before - any one got a guide and piccies? I do
> know what cables I need but assistance on routing cables from battery
> to boot and head unit to boot and doors would be great.
>
> Worth noting I got a 6 month old JL Audio and (RRP £400) and Focal
> Speakers, Tweater s, crossovers (RRP £265) for £140!! I have
> discovered the second hand market is rubbish - which is good for me ;-)

PS - 1999 156

> wrote:

> On 22 Apr, 11:24, wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > Just purchased my dedicated two channel amp and component speakers.
> >
> > I have never fitted before - any one got a guide and piccies? I do
> > know what cables I need but assistance on routing cables from battery
> > to boot and head unit to boot and doors would be great.
> >
> > Worth noting I got a 6 month old JL Audio and (RRP £400) and Focal
> > Speakers, Tweater s, crossovers (RRP £265) for £140!! I have
> > discovered the second hand market is rubbish - which is good for me ;-)
>
> PS - 1999 156

IMHO, it's a waste of time.

The standard fit kit is perfectly servicable in a 156, all we've done in
ours is to replace the standard fit cassette / radio with a CD head
unit.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

On 22 Apr, 12:18, (SteveH) wrote:
> > wrote:
> > On 22 Apr, 11:24, wrote:
> > > Hi All
>
> > > Just purchased my dedicated two channel amp and component speakers.
>
> > > I have never fitted before - any one got a guide and piccies? I do
> > > know what cables I need but assistance on routing cables from battery
> > > to boot and head unit to boot and doors would be great.
>
> > > Worth noting I got a 6 month old JL Audio and (RRP £400) and Focal
> > > Speakers, Tweater s, crossovers (RRP £265) for £140!! I have
> > > discovered the second hand market is rubbish - which is good for me ;-)
>
> > PS - 1999 156
>
> IMHO, it's a waste of time.
>
> The standard fit kit is perfectly servicable in a 156, all we've done in
> ours is to replace the standard fit cassette / radio with a CD head
> unit.
> --
> SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'www.italiancar.co.uk- Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
> Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
> BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

You've not heard a good system upgrade then ;-)

> wrote:

> > > > Worth noting I got a 6 month old JL Audio and (RRP £400) and Focal
> > > > Speakers, Tweater s, crossovers (RRP £265) for £140!! I have
> > > > discovered the second hand market is rubbish - which is good for me ;-)
> >
> > > PS - 1999 156
> >
> > IMHO, it's a waste of time.
> >
> > The standard fit kit is perfectly servicable in a 156, all we've done in
> > ours is to replace the standard fit cassette / radio with a CD head
> > unit.

> You've not heard a good system upgrade then ;-)

I think you're confusing 'good' with 'loud'.

Common mistake in car audio circles.

A car is a less than ideal listening environment, hence if the standard
kit is acceptable, it's really not worth ripping out to 'upgrade'.

Most executive class cars come with a half decent install these days -
it's not the early 90s where they all fitted paper cone speakers and the
cheapest head unit they could get their hands on.
--
SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'
www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

On 22 Apr, 14:22, (SteveH) wrote:
> > wrote:
> > > > > Worth noting I got a 6 month old JL Audio and (RRP £400) and Focal
> > > > > Speakers, Tweater s, crossovers (RRP £265) for £140!! I have
> > > > > discovered the second hand market is rubbish - which is good for me ;-)
>
> > > > PS - 1999 156
>
> > > IMHO, it's a waste of time.
>
> > > The standard fit kit is perfectly servicable in a 156, all we've done in
> > > ours is to replace the standard fit cassette / radio with a CD head
> > > unit.
> > You've not heard a good system upgrade then ;-)
>
> I think you're confusing 'good' with 'loud'.
>
> Common mistake in car audio circles.
>
> A car is a less than ideal listening environment, hence if the standard
> kit is acceptable, it's really not worth ripping out to 'upgrade'.
>
> Most executive class cars come with a half decent install these days -
> it's not the early 90s where they all fitted paper cone speakers and the
> cheapest head unit they could get their hands on.
> --
> SteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo'www.italiancar.co.uk- Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark
> Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL
> BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC #

Not at all. If you look at the components I have bought/selected they
are "audiophile" components and are designed for sound quality and not
volume or BASS. Not my kind of thing. My other main hobby apart from
the Alfa is home audio where I have a good understanding of components
and sound. I do agree you will never get "perfect" sound from a car
but there are ways where you can make an effort. And the speakers in
the MK 1 156 are poor. Remember as well the amp is the most important
thing. A low power amp (head unit) will blow speakers more easily than
a dedicated amp with stags of juice ,, even at low volumes. All to do
with clipping etc etc. Any way. Must get started on the install. If
you live in my area pop round. I'd love to prove you wrong! ;-)

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On 22 Apr, 14:22, (SteveH) wrote:
> > wrote:

> Not at all. If you look at the components I have bought/selected they
> are "audiophile" components and are designed for sound quality and not
> volume or BASS. Not my kind of thing. My other main hobby apart from
> the Alfa is home audio where I have a good understanding of components
> and sound. I do agree you will never get "perfect" sound from a car
> but there are ways where you can make an effort. And the speakers in
> the MK 1 156 are poor. Remember as well the amp is the most important
> thing.

IMHO in a car 2 things are important.
1. The quality of the speakers (as in a home set; spend 50% on the speakers
and 50% on the rest)
2. Equalizing the set in car.

All "normal" amps will do provided they have sufficient power so they don't
have to work over 80% (harmonic distortions)
Equalizing the set is a hughe job to get it right. Should it sound o.k.
standing still with engine not running or at top speed with windows open
??????

I have a GT with the Alfa/Bose set which has been equalized ex-factory;
certainly not a very high volume set, but sounds quite alright in many
circunstances.
And, the best sound in an Alfa is the engine, so why bother...........
--
Ciao from The Netherlands
alfistagj (aka Gert-Jan)
GT 2.0 JTS (2005)
Montreal 2.6V8 (1428700 - 1973/4)

alfistagj wrote:
> > schreef in bericht
> ups.com...
> On 22 Apr, 14:22, (SteveH) wrote:
>> > wrote:
>
>> Not at all. If you look at the components I have bought/selected they
>> are "audiophile" components and are designed for sound quality and not
>> volume or BASS. Not my kind of thing. My other main hobby apart from
>> the Alfa is home audio where I have a good understanding of components
>> and sound. I do agree you will never get "perfect" sound from a car
>> but there are ways where you can make an effort. And the speakers in
>> the MK 1 156 are poor. Remember as well the amp is the most important
>> thing.
>
> IMHO in a car 2 things are important.
> 1. The quality of the speakers (as in a home set; spend 50% on the speakers
> and 50% on the rest)

That is a very European / American way of approaching things

> 2. Equalizing the set in car.
>
> All "normal" amps will do provided they have sufficient power so they don't
> have to work over 80% (harmonic distortions)
> Equalizing the set is a hughe job to get it right. Should it sound o.k.
> standing still with engine not running or at top speed with windows open
> ??????
>
*ding*

> I have a GT with the Alfa/Bose set which has been equalized ex-factory;
> certainly not a very high volume set, but sounds quite alright in many
> circunstances.
> And, the best sound in an Alfa is the engine, so why bother...........

Also true. Met an SZ on Marlow high street on Friday

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Alfa 116 Giulietta 3.0l (Really) Sprint 1.7 75 TS 156 TS S2
Suzuki Bandit 600
Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
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I just spent the weekend replacing the stereo system in my 156,
including amp and sub in the boot and amping and replacing all
speakers. For the record the 2002 156 does have paper cones and thats
with the upgraded sound system. Head units not real flash either, but
looks nice with the red lights.. so im leaving it.
I've installed a lot of stereos in my time and this was by far the
most elaborate, difficult and costly yet. Alfa strikes again!