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"Smirnoff" > wrote in
. verio.net:

>
>
> "Mitchell Holman" > wrote in message
>
>> "Smirnoff" > wrote in
>> news:zbTHj.2420$lU5.1617
>> @newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net:
>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> If there was no "direct connection" between
>>>>> >> Iraq and
>>>>> >> bin Laden then why are you claiming that invading
>>>>> >> Iraq was
>>>>> >> the proper response to bin Ladens attack on America?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> > I've answered this for you a hundred times. The
>>>>> > problem is that the Middle East is providing willing
>>>>> > suicide attackers who are marginalized and who
>>>>> > believe that their societies are marginalized in the
>>>>> > world, ready to do whatever bin Laden asks, no
>>>>> > matter how crazy.
>>>>>
>>>>> None of the suicide attackers came from Iraq.
>>>>>
>>>>> Facts one, crazy Bonde speculation zero.
>>>>>
>>>> You can't refute what I say, so you personally attack
>>>> me. What I said is exactly correct.
>>> You lie continually and everyone can see that. You have
>>> nothing but bare claims that you can not back up.
>>> Therefore you lose.
>>>
>>
>> Small wonder why so few people bothering to
>> respond to Bonde bizarre rantings.
>
> He is crying now. He is always the first to attack and the first to
> cry. He
> must have been the one the bully always picked on in the school yard
> playground. He must have run do daddy on a regular basis.Squealed on
> everyone and generally had no friends.



That is a common trait with the conservatives around here.
They seem to wear their petulance and immaturity on their sleeves
like they are *proud* of it or something....





Mitchell Holman


"I reported Gary Rosell for making just such a threat
against Katherine Harris a few years back. Got him thrown
off his isp too."
Kurt Nicklas, 02/18/08, bragging about being a tattle-tale.



"Liberalism represents everything bad about humanity,
and those who embrace it deserve to be killed."
"MF Ogilvie", compassionate conservative, 9/28/05


"We right-wingers have no reason we shouldn't call
Ms. Sheehan the "Mom Who Sucks Muslim Cock."
Steven D. Litvintchouk, Aug 29, 2005


"Is there a possibility two people can work with each other?
In the same office?"
"VRWC", having been caught posting as "Machiavelli" and "Greg
Brown" and "John Q. Smith", 1/15/08


"Oh, would you go **** yourself?
Jim Alder, Nov 20, 2007


"You ****ing cowardly cocksucker"
Jim Alder, July 25, 2007


"**** you and the whore you rode in on."
Sept 11, 2007


"**** off and die, hatemongering asshole."
Jim Alder, Mar 28, 2007


"Damn, that namecalling is SUCH an effective debate
technique and you Leftwingers use it SO well."
Jim Alder, Dec 12, 2007

Smirnoff wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal
> attack' )" > wrote in message
>
> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>
> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> frontal attack' )" > wrote
> >> in :
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> >> frontal attack' )" >
> >> >> wrote in :
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> >> >> frontal attack' )" >
> >> >> >> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of
> >> >> >> >> the frontal
> >> >> >> >> attack' )" > wrote
> >> >> >> >> in message
> >> >> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu
> >> >> >> >> >> of the frontal
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> He looked away and Bin Laden
> >> >> >> >> >> >> fled.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Now that's just a lie. Bin Laden hasn't
> >> >> >> >> >> > been seen since before 9/11, therefore he
> >> >> >> >> >> > fled before the US seriously engaged him.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Next, he was heard of in the Tora Bora
> >> >> >> >> >> > area and the US tried to get him. That was
> >> >> >> >> >> > in 2001. The US invaded Iraq in 2003, that
> >> >> >> >> >> > is two years later.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> When did the US seriously engage him and who
> >> >> >> >> >> did it? Surely not Bush.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > You are a kook, how many troops are in
> >> >> >> >> > Afghanistan right now? There are about 50K.
> >> >> >> >> > How many troops did Clinton put in
> >> >> >> >> > Afghanistan? The answer is zero. He refused
> >> >> >> >> > to even allow CIA actions.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> You are the Kooker.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > I do seem to know actual history.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Yu spin is not history loon.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > How many US troops did Clinton put in Afghanistan?
> >> >>
> >> >> Why should Clinton have invaded Afghanistan?
> >> >>
> >> > To kill bin Laden so that 9/11 wouldn't be ordered by
> >> > him.
> >>
> >> So Clinton failed to see into the future just like
> >> Bush failed to look into the future and prevent 9/11.
> >>
> >> Do you realize how silly that argument is?
> >>
> > So you are saying that Bush shouldn't have invaded
> > Afghanistan before 9/11 either? There, I win again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> >> >> >> 9111
> >> >> >> >> happened under Bush's watch after being told to
> >> >> >> >> watch out. Bush turned away and then invaded
> >> >> >> >> the wrong country in his WOT. He did this as a
> >> >> >> >> distraction from the real issue of hunting down
> >> >> >> >> OBL.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > You keep repeating this conclusory claim. One
> >> >> >> > problem is that I've refuted it already.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> You have denied it. You have refuted nothing.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > What did I deny? You asserted that he took his eye
> >> >> > off the ball by invading Iraq. I pointed out that
> >> >> > we lost bin Laden in 2001 and invaded Iraq in 2003.
> >> >> > That seems like enough time that there is no direct
> >> >> > connection.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If there was no "direct connection" between Iraq
> >> >> and
> >> >> bin Laden then why are you claiming that invading
> >> >> Iraq was
> >> >> the proper response to bin Ladens attack on America?
> >> >>
> >> > I've answered this for you a hundred times. The
> >> > problem is that the Middle East is providing willing
> >> > suicide attackers who are marginalized and who believe
> >> > that their societies are marginalized in the world,
> >> > ready to do whatever bin Laden asks, no matter how
> >> > crazy.
> >>
> >> None of the suicide attackers came from Iraq.
> >>
> >> Facts one, crazy Bonde speculation zero.
> >>
> > You can't refute what I say, so you personally attack me.
> > What I said is exactly correct.
> You lie continually and everyone can see that. You have nothing but bare
> claims that you can not back up. Therefore you lose.
>
What is the "lie" supposed to be? Just answer the question.



--
"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like
spaghetti. Is that funny?"
"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people
laugh."
-+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"

Smirnoff wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal
> attack' )" > wrote in message
>
> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >>
> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> frontal
> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> > SteveL wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 04:51:34 +0000, "Bill Bonde ( 'the
> >> >> oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "David Moffitt" >
> >> >> >> wrote in
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> http://www.rense.com/general25/hij.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/05/1....11/index.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002...ptember11.usa1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/072603A.shtml
> >> >> >> http://tnparadise.blogspot.com/2007/...epeatedly.html
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Had enough?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >Notice that you posted nothing at all. He posted
> >> >> >actual quotes.
> >> >>
> >> >> What???
> >> >>
> >> >> He posted a series of assertions with no cites
> >> >> whatsoever. And hardly any attributable "actual
> >> >> quotes" either, except a few vague references to
> >> >> Colin Powell's infamous presentation to the UN, which
> >> >> we all know now was chock of full of "bad
> >> >> intelligence" (tm) (euphemism for lies).
> >> >>
> >> >> Moffitt could have made most of them up on the spot
> >> >> for all we know, or picked them up from whatever
> >> >> bull**** right-wing blog-spot.
> >> >>
> >> >> He needs to provide a source. Just putting a little
> >> >> asterisk in front of each one does not accomplish
> >> >> that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Smirnoff did provide sources. And his sources at least
> >> >> include a couple of credible journalistic
> >> >> establishments.
> >> >>
> >> > Smirnoff provided nothing but bare URLs which are
> >> > ignored.
> >> >
> >> You ignor them because you have no other choice. They
> >> back up what I have been pointing out so you run.
> >> Running is all you do.
> >>
> > I'm not going to play your games. You provide nonsense
> > URLs to whatever in the effort to trick me to go try to
> > figure out whatever is at those locations you are talking
> > about. Of course there will be no there there, but
> > because you haven't quoted anything, there's no way I can
> > respond. I've caught on to your type.
> >
> >
> Your type is Bush and his lies. You continue to refuse comment on the proof
> of what Bush said like the coward you are. You run.You lose.
>
I'm right here. I'm once again asking you to post your "proof". Put
it right here ------>




--
"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like
spaghetti. Is that funny?"
"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people
laugh."
-+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"

Smirnoff wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal
> attack' )" > wrote in message
>
> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >>
> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> frontal
> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> >> frontal
> >> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> >> >> frontal
> >> >> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "David Moffitt" >
> >> >> >> >> wrote in
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> http://www.rense.com/general25/hij.htm
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/05/1....11/index.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002...ptember11.usa1
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.truthout.org/docs_03/072603A.shtml
> >> >> >> >> http://tnparadise.blogspot.com/2007/...epeatedly.html
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Had enough?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Notice that you posted nothing at all. He posted
> >> >> >> > actual quotes. Go back to your websites and see
> >> >> >> > if any can stand as actual cites. Then quote
> >> >> >> > what you care from the actual text of the
> >> >> >> > website. Then put it in a message. Right now
> >> >> >> > you've provided nothing.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> You are an idiot. I posted this:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > I think that's an example of you lying. You posted a
> >> >> > few links WHICH NO ONE WILL LOOK AT BECAUSE BARE
> >> >> > LINKS ARE NOT VALID ANYTHING AND CERTAINLY NOT
> >> >> > VALID CITES.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The CIA warned the US president, George Bush, weeks
> >> >> >> before September 11 that al-Qaida terrorists might
> >> >> >> hijack US aeroplanes, the White House admitted
> >> >> >> yesterday.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > It was known when Clinton was president that
> >> >> > terrorists might hijack airplanes. In fact, it was
> >> >> > known when Nixon was president.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Mr Bush is believed to have received the warning in
> >> >> >> August last year as part of his regular
> >> >> >> intelligence briefing while on vacation at his
> >> >> >> ranch in Crawford, Texas.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > You mean he was working on his "vacation"?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> The president was not warned that the planes might
> >> >> >> be used
> >> >> >> as missiles to destroy buildings, his official
> >> >> >> spokesperson said.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > That's really what the issue is, as if that sort of
> >> >> > warning would mean that the White House should have
> >> >> > done something different. The White House isn't
> >> >> > charged with direct security of the United States,
> >> >> > that's the FBI and CIA and other agencies. We know
> >> >> > that the FBI and CIA weren't even telling each other
> >> >> > what they knew and that that is why the terrorist
> >> >> > pilot training continued.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> and much more. There is plenty of more but why
> >> >> >> would I post everything in a post that would be
> >> >> >> denied because the contents do not fit your
> >> >> >> claims. I have not seen you back up anything you
> >> >> >> have stated loon.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Post what you claim. If you refuse to post it, I'll
> >> >> > continue to deny that you have posted anything to
> >> >> > back up your claims. I'll continue to deny you've
> >> >> > posted anything because you have yet to post
> >> >> > anything.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> What part about the above is confusing to you?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm not confused about the rules of debating.
> >> >>
> >> >> You are not debating. You are cowardly making an ass
> >> >> out of yourself over and over.
> >> >>
> >> > You never refute anything I say. You never even address
> >> > it, you just assert your usual nonsense.
> >>
> >> You have never backed up anything you post. I have done
> >> so repeatedly but you refuse to look at any cites I have
> >> supplied. This is what I have been pointing out that you
> >> have been running from.
> >>
> > You need to post QUOTES backed up from serious news
> > sources. You won't do that because you aren't telling the
> > truth.
>
> I need not do any such thing. What are you afraid of? You run from the
> facts as shown by a video of Bush. Is that video a fake?
>
I don't know what you are talking about. Post whatever your proof
is right here ------>



> Crickets.................You lose.
>
> >
> >> >> You have been shown that Bush lied and ignored
> >> >> warnings that could
> >> >> have stopped 911.
> >> >>
> >>
> >> You refuse to do anything but spew your lies.
> >>
> > What is the "lie" supposed to be?
> >
> >
> >
> >> > No I haven't.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> You have been shown a video that backs up what I post
> >> >> but because you are a coward you refuse to see that is
> >> >> obvious and continue to babble the same endless BS.
> >> >>
> >> > What are you talking about? Provide valid cites for
> >> > your claims or admit you cannot.
> >>
> >> What is more valide than Bush himself saying something
> >> and then lying about it.
> >>
> > What are you talking about?
> >
> >
> >> You refuse to addresss his lies by saying that they are
> >> not good enough
> >> for you. Youtube is not a valid cite just why now?
> >> Please explain.
> >>
> > Youtube isn't a news source, you nut.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> >> What "rules" of debating are you babbling about
> >> >> now? Post those rules, loon.
> >> >>
> >> > They include actually quoting whatever you are
> >> > supposedly citing.
> >>
> >> As I have asked what is better than a video of Bush
> >> lying?
> >>
> > What are you talking about?
> >
> >
> >> Do you want me
> >> to cut and paste text to a post that can be read in full
> >> already online? You are a total jackass and continue to
> >> run from whatever you don't like.
> >>
> > I haven't run from anything. I'm right here, responding
> > to your trite tripe.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their
> > hair like spaghetti. Is that funny?"
> > "Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make
> > people laugh."
> > -+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"

--
"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like
spaghetti. Is that funny?"
"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people
laugh."
-+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"

Smirnoff wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal
> attack' )" > wrote in message
>
> > "Jorge W. Arbusto, Presidentchul Candydate" wrote:
> >>
> >> Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> frontal attack' ) wrote:
> >> > Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Why doesn't this stupid country get smart and lower
> >> >> speed limits for everyone - and enforce it strictly?.
> >> >>
> >> > Why don't you shut up?
> >>
> >> So, are you really Bill O'Reilly?
> >>
> > I don't know
>
> You sure don't.
>
Now you've resorted to cutting up my sentences to change their
meaning. What pusillanimity.



--
"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like
spaghetti. Is that funny?"
"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people
laugh."
-+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"

Smirnoff wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal
> attack' )" > wrote in message
>
> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >>
> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> frontal
> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> >> frontal
> >> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> >> message
> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the
> >> >> >> frontal
> >> >> >> attack' )" > wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of
> >> >> >> >> the frontal
> >> >> >> >> attack' )" > wrote
> >> >> >> >> in message
> >> >> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu
> >> >> >> >> >> of the frontal
> >> >> >> >> >> attack' )" >
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Smirnoff wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> lieu of the frontal
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> He looked away and Bin Laden
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> fled.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Now that's just a lie. Bin Laden hasn't
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > been seen since before 9/11, therefore
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > he fled before the US seriously engaged
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > him. Next, he was heard of in the Tora
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Bora area and the US tried to get him.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > That was in 2001. The US invaded Iraq
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > in 2003, that is two years later.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> When did the US seriously engage him and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> who did it? Surely not Bush.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > You are a kook, how many troops are in
> >> >> >> >> >> > Afghanistan right now? There are about 50K.
> >> >> >> >> >> > How many troops did Clinton put in
> >> >> >> >> >> > Afghanistan? The answer is zero. He refused
> >> >> >> >> >> > to even allow CIA actions.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> You are the Kooker.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > I do seem to know actual history.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Your spin is not history loon.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > How many US troops did Clinton put in
> >> >> >> > Afghanistan? How many US troops did Bush put in
> >> >> >> > Afghanistan? Just honestly answer these two
> >> >> >> > questions.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Why would Clinton put troops there after 911? How
> >> >> >> troops did Bush put there before 911? You are an
> >> >> >> idiot.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Had 9/11 not happened, we'd have had eight years to
> >> >> > see what Bush would've done without 9/11. Because
> >> >> > 9/11 happened, apparently, that gives Clinton a
> >> >> > pass for not doing anything in his eight years. I
> >> >> > think that's nonsense. Bush didn't invade
> >> >> > Afghanistan two days after taking the oath of
> >> >> > office because that isn't a prudent thing to do
> >> >> > without gathering your forces and making plans. For
> >> >> > an idea of what happens when you take the word of a
> >> >> > previous president to do things that that previous
> >> >> > president refused to do, see The Bay of Pigs.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> That is total BS. It was not as though nothing had
> >> >> ever happened and the slate was whiped clean. Blaming
> >> >> Clinton for what Bush should have continued to do
> >> >> does not give Bush a free pass.
> >> >>
> >> > CLINTON DIDN'T DO ANYTHING.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Things were mounting and to drop the
> >> >> ball completely and ignor everything is putting all
> >> >> the responsability on Bush. 911 happened under the
> >> >> Bush administration's watch and he clearly dropped
> >> >> the ball. Ignored warnings and shut down the on going
> >> >> attention that was pointing at Bin Laden.
> >> >>
> >> > What should he have done differently? Why didn't
> >> > Clinton do whatever it was Bush should've done? You
> >> > can't answer.
> >>
> >> He instrusct the CIA to continue to hint for Bin Laden
> >> while Bush stopped.
> >>
> > That isn't what happened at all.
>
> It sure is. I have posted references but you refuse to view them
>
I'm not going to scour blogs to figure out what part you are
referring to. It's like me posting www.nytimes.com and claiming
that proves something I'm saying. What page? What paragraph? A cite
includes the URL to show it is genuine but it also includes the
text so that the person knows what you are referring to.


> Thus you
> are not debating like you claim but lying like I have been pointing out. You
> have nothing but fabrications of your own.
>
What's the "lie" and what are the "fabrications"? Put them right
here ------>




> >> I
> >> can post cites but you will again run away from the
> >> truth and refure to read what is right in front of your
> >> eyes.
> >>
> > You don't have any valid cites because you are
> > confabulating again.
>
> You have never even looked at any so you are lying again.
>
I've extensively read on these subjects. It's unlikely anything you
can provide would be new to me. The only thing you can do is
continue to not cite properly and I'm just not going to play your
silly game.




> >> >> Clinton was after Bin Laden and had been for 10 years
> >> >> and Bush put an end to it.
> >> >>
> >> > That is simply a lie. Clinton consistently refused to
> >> > allow actions against bin Laden unless he required some
> >> > wag the dog diversions, in which case he used hundreds
> >> > of cruise missiles because he didn't want to risk
> >> > Americans.
> >>
> >> Cite your BS if you can. You can not so you lie. Clinton
> >> was repeatedly accused of wagging the dog.
> >>
> > Repeatedly?
>
> Continually. Bush put a stop to any hunt of Bin Laden.
>
But that's a lie. There are 50,000 NATO troops in Afghanistan right
now trying to deal with bin Laden and his boys.



> > The only attack on bin Laden that I know of
> > was when Clinton planned to lie under oath about Monica.
> > That sure seems like wagging the dog.
>
> He was not allowed to do anything but defend himself. Because of his sex
> life that is reason to deny him? You are a true moron.
>
When you said the following, you lied, didn't you?: "He was not
allowed to do anything but defend himself."




> > In any case, what
> > other attacks on bin Laden are you referring to? Or were
> > the "repeated" references to him wagging the dog all
> > about that one incident?
>
You can't answer these questions, can you?




> >> >> > What do you think the tens of thousands of US troops
> >> >> > and 50,000 plus NATO troops are doing today in
> >> >> > Afghanistan?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Instead he invaded a
> >> >> >> harmless nation to distract from the real mission.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Harmless. You area kook.
> >> >>
> >> >> Saddam was harmless when Iraq was attacked because of
> >> >> Clinton. It was clear when the miltary walked in.
> >> >>
> >> > Because of Clinton?
> >>
> >> Yes. the sanctions were working.
> >>
> > There was no progress. And there were efforts to end the
> > sanctions by the French and others, who sought out the
> > oil contracts that Iraq could then act on with them.
> >
> >
> >
> >> >> >> When you are done making an ass out of yourself we
> >> >> >> can continue and you can do it again on some more
> >> >> >> of your lies.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > What is the "lie" supposed to be?
> >> >>
> >> >> Your running will not cover the fact that what I have
> >> >> pointed out is true. You, like Bush are true cowards.
> >> >>
> >> > Tell me what the "lie" is supposed to be.
> >> >
> >> You lie again.
> >>
> > A command can't be a lie.
> >
> >
> >> They were working and Bush's inaction gave us 911.
> >>
> > That's an attempt to state a "fact" and you know that
> > that "fact" isn't true, that's the definition of a lie.
> > The hijackers were training in the US when Clinton was
> > president. The material reason for their success appears
> > to be a lack of co-ordination between CIA and the FBI.
> > That lack of co-ordination has its history in Clinton era
> > insistence that both agencies not share information, that
> > there be a fire wall between them. That was a mistake at
> > least in the degree it was done. But what it isn't is
> > Bush's fault.
> >
> >
> >
> >> You are
> >> total BS. I am refuting more of what you say but you
> >> will say I have refuted nothing. You are a whacko and
> >> one of the less than a third of the nation that still
> >> supports Bush. You are a fool.
> >>
> > What are you refuting? Your assertions aren't refutations.
> >
> Once again you have refused to follow any references. Why is that? What are
> you afraid of coward?
>
Provide a URL and a short quote backing up whatever you are
claiming. I'll read that. I've said I'll read that from the start.
Do that and I'll read it. Play your games where you send me to some
stupid blog to read some dime store novel, no I'm not playing.



--
"Question, two men starving to death decide to eat their hair like
spaghetti. Is that funny?"
"Hmmm, well, it depends on if by funny you want to make people
laugh."
-+Eddie Izzard and Joanna Lumley, "The Cat's Meow"