OK with Grand Vitara or RAV4 ?

"David" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dan J. S." > wrote in message
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> >
> >
> > RAV4s (with the 6 banger) go for $25,000 and that is fully loaded!! You
can
> > get a 4 banger one for $19,000
>
> In the US, I think RAV4s only come with a 2.4l 4-cylinder engine. Never
heard of
> one with a 6.
>
>

You are correct. My mistake. The $25,000 figure was a fully loaded RAV4,
with every possible options.

> Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
> is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
> time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
> this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
> off road condition.
> There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
> roads even during rain.
> CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
> When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
> you ocasionaly only go off road.
>
> reg
> Y
> [...]

You can make your own offroader to match a Rav or Crvs offroad
performance... Take a front wheel drive car with engine and gearbox that
sits sideways in the engine bay, sit it lengthwise in the bay with the wheel
shafts swapped for driveshafts to front and rear axles and open diffs with
longer suspension A arms and springs for extra ground clearance.

Viola! a RAV4 or CRV clone...



rhys

> Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
> is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
> time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
> this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
> off road condition.
> There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
> roads even during rain.
> CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
> When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
> you ocasionaly only go off road.
>
> reg
> Y
> [...]

You can make your own offroader to match a Rav or Crvs offroad
performance... Take a front wheel drive car with engine and gearbox that
sits sideways in the engine bay, sit it lengthwise in the bay with the wheel
shafts swapped for driveshafts to front and rear axles and open diffs with
longer suspension A arms and springs for extra ground clearance.

Viola! a RAV4 or CRV clone...



rhys

In article >, says...
>
> > Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
> > is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
> > time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
> > this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
> > off road condition.
> > There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
> > roads even during rain.
> > CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
> > When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
> > you ocasionaly only go off road.
> >
> > reg
> > Y
> > [...]
>
> You can make your own offroader to match a Rav or Crvs offroad
> performance... Take a front wheel drive car with engine and gearbox that
> sits sideways in the engine bay, sit it lengthwise in the bay with the wheel
> shafts swapped for driveshafts to front and rear axles and open diffs with
> longer suspension A arms and springs for extra ground clearance.
>
> Viola! a RAV4 or CRV clone...
>
>
>
> rhys
>
>
>

Actually the CRV drivetrain doesn't split the power quite that nicely
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In article >, says...
>
> > Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
> > is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
> > time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
> > this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
> > off road condition.
> > There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
> > roads even during rain.
> > CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
> > When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
> > you ocasionaly only go off road.
> >
> > reg
> > Y
> > [...]
>
> You can make your own offroader to match a Rav or Crvs offroad
> performance... Take a front wheel drive car with engine and gearbox that
> sits sideways in the engine bay, sit it lengthwise in the bay with the wheel
> shafts swapped for driveshafts to front and rear axles and open diffs with
> longer suspension A arms and springs for extra ground clearance.
>
> Viola! a RAV4 or CRV clone...
>
>
>
> rhys
>
>
>

Actually the CRV drivetrain doesn't split the power quite that nicely
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"Chris Phillipo" > wrote

> > > Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
> > > is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
> > > time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
> > > this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
> > > off road condition.
> > > There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
> > > roads even during rain.
> > > CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
> > > When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
> > > you ocasionaly only go off road.
> > >
> > > reg
> > > Y
> > > [...]
> >
> > You can make your own offroader to match a Rav or Crvs offroad
> > performance... Take a front wheel drive car with engine and gearbox that
> > sits sideways in the engine bay, sit it lengthwise in the bay with the
wheel
> > shafts swapped for driveshafts to front and rear axles and open diffs
with
> > longer suspension A arms and springs for extra ground clearance.
> >
> > Viola! a RAV4 or CRV clone...
> >
> >
> >
> > rhys
> >
> >
> >
>
> Actually the CRV drivetrain doesn't split the power quite that nicely
> --

so make your own find a CRV with a munted engine and good chassis and
stick in a 2.5L turbo front wheel drive engine from one of the sportier FWD
model cars around in a wreckers with a good engine GB but munted body....

rhys

"Chris Phillipo" > wrote

> > > Dafinitly it is different leauge. RAV4 and CR-v are cars for city, GV
> > > is typical off roader build on frame with T-case - low-ratio, Part
> > > time 4WD (manual off course) , dependent back axle (inflexible). so
> > > this car is not as comfortble as RAC or CRV, but is much beter in real
> > > off road condition.
> > > There is no central diff so 4WD cannont by used on asphfalt or solid
> > > roads even during rain.
> > > CR-V has VERY POOR 4WD, if it doesn't metter you can take it.
> > > When I see you expiriences I advice you RAV4 it's the best chooise if
> > > you ocasionaly only go off road.
> > >
> > > reg
> > > Y
> > > [...]
> >
> > You can make your own offroader to match a Rav or Crvs offroad
> > performance... Take a front wheel drive car with engine and gearbox that
> > sits sideways in the engine bay, sit it lengthwise in the bay with the
wheel
> > shafts swapped for driveshafts to front and rear axles and open diffs
with
> > longer suspension A arms and springs for extra ground clearance.
> >
> > Viola! a RAV4 or CRV clone...
> >
> >
> >
> > rhys
> >
> >
> >
>
> Actually the CRV drivetrain doesn't split the power quite that nicely
> --

so make your own find a CRV with a munted engine and good chassis and
stick in a 2.5L turbo front wheel drive engine from one of the sportier FWD
model cars around in a wreckers with a good engine GB but munted body....

rhys

"rnf2" > wrote in message ...
> so make your own find a CRV with a munted engine and good chassis and
> stick in a 2.5L turbo front wheel drive engine from one of the sportier FWD
> model cars around in a wreckers with a good engine GB but munted body....

Well at least in the US, we can just buy that car directly without engine swapping.
Subaru Forester XT, 2.5L turbo. I think 13.7sec 1/4 mile time stock (or so I'm
told)), which isn't bad for an AWD wagon. Can't you buy JDM Foresters in NZ,
which includes the even faster Forester STi?

"rnf2" > wrote in message ...
> so make your own find a CRV with a munted engine and good chassis and
> stick in a 2.5L turbo front wheel drive engine from one of the sportier FWD
> model cars around in a wreckers with a good engine GB but munted body....

Well at least in the US, we can just buy that car directly without engine swapping.
Subaru Forester XT, 2.5L turbo. I think 13.7sec 1/4 mile time stock (or so I'm
told)), which isn't bad for an AWD wagon. Can't you buy JDM Foresters in NZ,
which includes the even faster Forester STi?

"David" > wrote in message
...
>
> "rnf2" > wrote in message
...
> > so make your own find a CRV with a munted engine and good chassis
and
> > stick in a 2.5L turbo front wheel drive engine from one of the sportier
FWD
> > model cars around in a wreckers with a good engine GB but munted
body....
>
> Well at least in the US, we can just buy that car directly without engine
swapping.
> Subaru Forester XT, 2.5L turbo. I think 13.7sec 1/4 mile time stock (or
so I'm
> told)), which isn't bad for an AWD wagon. Can't you buy JDM Foresters in
NZ,
> which includes the even faster Forester STi?
>
>

Yup theres foresters and outbacks here in NZ, but the Subaru engines don't
have very good reputations for reliabilty and lasting. besides they cost the
earth!
They also have a lower suspension and body than the Rav and Crvs, they're
AWD cars with some bad terrain capability, the RAV and CRV are posermobiles
with the height and suspension to handle more terrain if they could just
find the traction!

I know of a guy who builds offroad buggies using toyota 1600cc twin cam
engines from the Toyo Levin sports cars and similiar on a box chassis single
seat 4wd frame. light, powerful and boasting Simex 33" trekker extreme tyres
they're real fun offroaders.

rhys