Run Flat tire question

"Dad" > wrote in message
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> "Tom in Missouri" > wrote in message
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--SNIP--
>> Glad to see Ohio is fixing their roads.
>>
> Actually I didn't say Ohio, I said Ohio turnpike which has been around for
> close to a half century and I've used it that long. I've yet to see a pot
> hole in it and you didn't either. It's called maintenance, you'll get that
> where you live at some later date.

--SNIP> --

> Dad
> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>
>

Road maintenance in MO.some day? Ha, Ha
They are doing "some" work, but I'm not holding my breath.

The Ohio Pike is a nice slab, they've made big improvements on the
interstates also. I-70 was unbearable in the late 80s.

Marty

"Marty" > wrote in message
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> "Dad" > wrote in message
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>
> Road maintenance in MO.some day? Ha, Ha
> They are doing "some" work, but I'm not holding my breath.
>
> The Ohio Pike is a nice slab, they've made big improvements on the
> interstates also. I-70 was unbearable in the late 80s.
>
> Marty
>
They really beat that poor road up between Indy and St Louis, almost as bad
as I75 from Toledo to Detroit. What's it like now, I got to make a run
across there in February?

--
Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

"Marty" > wrote in message
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> "Dad" > wrote in message
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>
> Road maintenance in MO.some day? Ha, Ha
> They are doing "some" work, but I'm not holding my breath.
>
> The Ohio Pike is a nice slab, they've made big improvements on the
> interstates also. I-70 was unbearable in the late 80s.
>
> Marty
>
They really beat that poor road up between Indy and St Louis, almost as bad
as I75 from Toledo to Detroit. What's it like now, I got to make a run
across there in February?

--
Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

"Dad" > wrote in message
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>>
> They really beat that poor road up between Indy and St Louis, almost as
> bad as I75 from Toledo to Detroit. What's it like now, I got to make a run
> across there in February?
>
> --
> Dad
> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>

Unless they made improvements this past summer, the run between Terre Haute
and Indy was a bit rough. In IL the road itself is in good shape, but in a
Vette' you will be wantin' to use the left lane often.
The 65 speed limit is a PITA in both states, but then we survived the 55 MPH
era didn't we. ;-)

If you are going past St.Louis on I-44, it's worthy to note that they got
rid of the killer hill & curve just west of Rolla this past summer. The down
side is that the curves leading to it (west bound) are still banked OUT and
I-44 in general is a rough SOB.

HTH,
Marty

"Dad" > wrote in message
...
>
>>
> They really beat that poor road up between Indy and St Louis, almost as
> bad as I75 from Toledo to Detroit. What's it like now, I got to make a run
> across there in February?
>
> --
> Dad
> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>

Unless they made improvements this past summer, the run between Terre Haute
and Indy was a bit rough. In IL the road itself is in good shape, but in a
Vette' you will be wantin' to use the left lane often.
The 65 speed limit is a PITA in both states, but then we survived the 55 MPH
era didn't we. ;-)

If you are going past St.Louis on I-44, it's worthy to note that they got
rid of the killer hill & curve just west of Rolla this past summer. The down
side is that the curves leading to it (west bound) are still banked OUT and
I-44 in general is a rough SOB.

HTH,
Marty

I too plugged one of my C5 run flats over a year ago. I rarely go up to
85-90 and figure the run flat will bring me down to 55. Until I saw this
post, I forgot I plugged one.

"Tom in Missouri" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>I don't know where or how this became such a popular opinion that a
>repaired
> tire is worthless.
>
> Probably the people who sell tires. $200 for a tire vs. $2 for a plug,
> maybe?
>
> I have run both patched and plugged tires at speeds most you who only
> dream
> of and have had no failures and no indication of impending failure by
> examining the repair after such use.
>
> I've even plugged and patched race slicks, which according to many is the
> supreme no-no. Supposedly, you can't plug a slick because the tread is
> not
> thick enough to hold. However, I have never had one indicate any
> separation
> or pulling out. They have actually performed better than patches as
> patches
> tend to make a large spot wear more than the surrounding tread. As such,
> when patching slicks, I never used a full size patch, but always cut the
> patch smaller to minimize the wear spot.
>
> The problem many claim is due to the steel belts being broken by the
> puncturing object, i.e., nail, screw, etc.
>
> The real problem is steel belts. They are heavy, thus they are more
> rotating mass and tend to expand more at high speed than a similar
> non-steel
> cord. This is why John Greenwood was able to race on B.F. Goodrich TAs in
> the early '70s even though they were not speed rated.
>
> This is also why Firestone 500 tires blew apart, especially on Corvettes.
> The steel belts worked fine at 55 mph but when taken to the 120 mph even a
> '75 low horse Corvette was capable of, the belts literally tore out of the
> carcass due to the design by Firestone.
>
> Fix a Flat on the other hand, is a problem. It rarely ever flows evenly
> around the outside of the tire, instead puddling and creating a heavy spot
> that throws the tire out of balance. It is a mess to clean out, and the
> fumes are explosive so that removal of the tire can be hazardous.
>
>
>
>
> "C5Guy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Can you really trust a "repaired" tyre, especially at high speed.....
>>
>> "Dad" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "H and A" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> Found a nail in the tread portion on one of my Goodyear Run Flat
>> >> tires.
>> >> Once removed, is this something that can be plugged, without harming
> the
>> >> tire pressure sensor? Any thing special I need to know about
>> >> repairing
>> >> the tire before I remove the nail?
>> > Unless you plan on replacing it very soon plugging it is not the
>> > answer.
>> > To continue to use the tire you need to plug and then patch from the
>> > inside. The patch is to contain the air and the plug is to stop the
>> > migration of water and other fine trash from breaking the patch seal.
> You
>> > should not be able to damage the pressure sensor by plugging the tire,
> it
>> > is about the size of an old Zippo lighter and attached to the valve
> stem.
>> > The only warnings I've heard on them being damaged is the use of
>> > "Fix-A-Flat" or tire removal by an incompetent tire repair shop. Dally
>> > Tire a Goodyear dealer in Coldwater Mi. charged $10 to repair a tire,
>> > Capitol Tire in Toledo got me for $56 just to mount one, a Goodyear
> dealer
>> > that will never see me again. Plus I would like for them to get all of
> the
>> > attention that I paid for by passing this on to everyone.
>> > --
>> > Dad
>> > 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
>> > 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>> >
>>
>>
>

I too plugged one of my C5 run flats over a year ago. I rarely go up to
85-90 and figure the run flat will bring me down to 55. Until I saw this
post, I forgot I plugged one.

"Tom in Missouri" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>I don't know where or how this became such a popular opinion that a
>repaired
> tire is worthless.
>
> Probably the people who sell tires. $200 for a tire vs. $2 for a plug,
> maybe?
>
> I have run both patched and plugged tires at speeds most you who only
> dream
> of and have had no failures and no indication of impending failure by
> examining the repair after such use.
>
> I've even plugged and patched race slicks, which according to many is the
> supreme no-no. Supposedly, you can't plug a slick because the tread is
> not
> thick enough to hold. However, I have never had one indicate any
> separation
> or pulling out. They have actually performed better than patches as
> patches
> tend to make a large spot wear more than the surrounding tread. As such,
> when patching slicks, I never used a full size patch, but always cut the
> patch smaller to minimize the wear spot.
>
> The problem many claim is due to the steel belts being broken by the
> puncturing object, i.e., nail, screw, etc.
>
> The real problem is steel belts. They are heavy, thus they are more
> rotating mass and tend to expand more at high speed than a similar
> non-steel
> cord. This is why John Greenwood was able to race on B.F. Goodrich TAs in
> the early '70s even though they were not speed rated.
>
> This is also why Firestone 500 tires blew apart, especially on Corvettes.
> The steel belts worked fine at 55 mph but when taken to the 120 mph even a
> '75 low horse Corvette was capable of, the belts literally tore out of the
> carcass due to the design by Firestone.
>
> Fix a Flat on the other hand, is a problem. It rarely ever flows evenly
> around the outside of the tire, instead puddling and creating a heavy spot
> that throws the tire out of balance. It is a mess to clean out, and the
> fumes are explosive so that removal of the tire can be hazardous.
>
>
>
>
> "C5Guy" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Can you really trust a "repaired" tyre, especially at high speed.....
>>
>> "Dad" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > "H and A" > wrote in message
>> > news >> >> Found a nail in the tread portion on one of my Goodyear Run Flat
>> >> tires.
>> >> Once removed, is this something that can be plugged, without harming
> the
>> >> tire pressure sensor? Any thing special I need to know about
>> >> repairing
>> >> the tire before I remove the nail?
>> > Unless you plan on replacing it very soon plugging it is not the
>> > answer.
>> > To continue to use the tire you need to plug and then patch from the
>> > inside. The patch is to contain the air and the plug is to stop the
>> > migration of water and other fine trash from breaking the patch seal.
> You
>> > should not be able to damage the pressure sensor by plugging the tire,
> it
>> > is about the size of an old Zippo lighter and attached to the valve
> stem.
>> > The only warnings I've heard on them being damaged is the use of
>> > "Fix-A-Flat" or tire removal by an incompetent tire repair shop. Dally
>> > Tire a Goodyear dealer in Coldwater Mi. charged $10 to repair a tire,
>> > Capitol Tire in Toledo got me for $56 just to mount one, a Goodyear
> dealer
>> > that will never see me again. Plus I would like for them to get all of
> the
>> > attention that I paid for by passing this on to everyone.
>> > --
>> > Dad
>> > 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
>> > 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
>> >
>>
>>
>