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Honda Civic 01 Alternator change at 58K
Hi,
I cannot believe that I had to change my alternator and Struts at 58K. What kind of quality is Honda producing? I called their customer service, they said sorry out of the warranty!! Very disappointing. Will never buy a Honda again. |
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Hisham wrote:
> Hi, > I cannot believe that I had to change my alternator and Struts at 58K. > What kind of quality is Honda producing? > I called their customer service, they said sorry out of the warranty!! > Very disappointing. Will never buy a Honda again. No car is going to be problem-free, but Hondas (and Toyotas for that matter) still experience less problems than GM, Ford and Crapsler. My father had an issue with a wheel bearing on his 2004 Toyota Corolla, but is he crying foul? No. If the alternator and struts are the only problems your Civic has had, then you should be thankful. |
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Well, I don't think so. I pay a price premium when I buy a Honda not to have these kind of issues. Wheel bearing problem is wear & tear problem. I also just changed the brake pads (which is okay). Alternator is a different issue. It is a sign of bad product and quality control. So, it is not okay. Anyway, their loss. Never Honda again. S.S. wrote: > Hisham wrote: > > > Hi, > > I cannot believe that I had to change my alternator and Struts at 58K. > > What kind of quality is Honda producing? > > I called their customer service, they said sorry out of the warranty!! > > Very disappointing. Will never buy a Honda again. > > No car is going to be problem-free, but Hondas (and Toyotas for that matter) > still experience less problems than GM, Ford and Crapsler. My father had an > issue with a wheel bearing on his 2004 Toyota Corolla, but is he crying > foul? No. If the alternator and struts are the only problems your Civic > has had, then you should be thankful. |
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Hi,
Well, I don't think so. I pay a price premium when I buy a Honda not to have these kind of issues. Wheel bearing problem is wear & tear problem. I also just changed the brake pads (which is okay). Alternator is a different issue. It is a sign of bad product and quality control. So, it is not okay. Anyway, their loss. Never Honda again. S.S. wrote: > Hisham wrote: > > > Hi, > > I cannot believe that I had to change my alternator and Struts at 58K. > > What kind of quality is Honda producing? > > I called their customer service, they said sorry out of the warranty!! > > Very disappointing. Will never buy a Honda again. > > No car is going to be problem-free, but Hondas (and Toyotas for that matter) > still experience less problems than GM, Ford and Crapsler. My father had an > issue with a wheel bearing on his 2004 Toyota Corolla, but is he crying > foul? No. If the alternator and struts are the only problems your Civic > has had, then you should be thankful. |
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Hisham wrote:
> Hi, > Well, I don't think so. I pay a price premium when I buy a Honda not > to have these kind of issues. Wheel bearing problem is wear & tear > problem. I also just changed the brake pads (which is okay). > Alternator is a different issue. It is a sign of bad product and > quality control. So, it is not okay. Anyway, their loss. Never Honda > again. I am guessing that you've never owned a Honda before, let alone any Japanese car. Nothing in this world is perfect, and that includes the highest quality cars. Even my '93 Accord has had a few unusual issues, but it's not like it was having problems every other day. At least your alternator lasted longer than the average Delco alternator that creeps its way into many GM cars. My father once had a '94 Grand Prix that fried quite a few alternators before he got rid of it at 90K miles. BTW, the wheel bearing problem in his Corolla could not have been not a wear and tear issue, as the car had only 10K miles on it at the time. Like I said, no car going to be problem-free, but if you want a car that will give you the least amount of problems, Honda and Toyota are apparently still the most reliable brands. And if the alternator and struts were the only non-routine issues your Civic has had, then I'd say it's doing OK compared to most other brands. If you want something that will give you no problems at all, your only choice is no car at all. |
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Sorry about your problems. What happened with the alternator and struts?
Who told you they were bad and do you have a lot of potholes on your roads? With some additional info we may be able to get at the bottom of this. Also, did you buy your 01 new or used? |
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S.S. wrote:
> but Hondas (and Toyotas for that matter) > still experience less problems than GM, Ford and Crapsler. GM has made tremendous strides in quality in the past 5-10 years. Here's J.D. Power's vehicle dependability study (how many problems for a 3-year old vehicle). GM is better than industry average at #4! The problem is that reliability reputation takes a long time to build up (and dwindle), so GM's reputation is still stuck on the crappy quality that they produced in the 80s. And the fact that GM cars are so ugly doesn't help either. =) http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases...asp?ID=2004055 |
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Hisham wrote:
> I cannot believe that I had to change my alternator and Struts at 58K. > What kind of quality is Honda producing? It is true that the current generation Civic is not as reliable as the previous generations. Honda may be a victim of its own reputation because people have too high expectations. I admit that I was initially somewhat disappointed when I bought my 01 Civic because it wasn't 100% perfect. But 4 years later, I'm pretty happy with it, no major problems, and I would buy Honda again. Take a look at J.D. Power's dependability study: http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases...asp?ID=2004055 They look at how many problems for 3-year old cars (this report is for 2001 models). It shows that Honda is near the top of the list with 210 problems per 100 vehicles, which comes out to 2.1 problems per vehicle... and hey, you had a problem with the alternator and struts. > I called their customer service, they said sorry out of the warranty!! > Very disappointing. Will never buy a Honda again. Out of curiosity, what other makes of cars have you owned? And how did the quality compare to Honda? Hyundai has a 10 year warranty, but their dependability is 375 problems per 100 vehicles. Would you be happier with longer warranty and worse reliability? |
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Bucky wrote:
> S.S. wrote: >> but Hondas (and Toyotas for that matter) >> still experience less problems than GM, Ford and Crapsler. > > GM has made tremendous strides in quality in the past 5-10 years. > Here's J.D. Power's vehicle dependability study (how many problems for > a 3-year old vehicle). GM is better than industry average at #4! The > problem is that reliability reputation takes a long time to build up > (and dwindle), so GM's reputation is still stuck on the crappy quality > that they produced in the 80s. And the fact that GM cars are so ugly > doesn't help either. =) > > http://www.jdpower.com/news/releases...asp?ID=2004055 Sorry, but I don't put too much stock into a lot of what JD Power says. I am not convinced that GM has been making the strides in quality that have been claimed because they still make some unreliable cars--Malibu, Grand Am, and some of their trucks haven't had particularly good reliability ratings. Cavalier and Sunfire were two of GM's most unreliable cars, but were recently phased out in favour of the Chevy Cobalt. The Cobalt coupe is nice, but who knows how well it will hold up in the long run. It seems that GM's most reliable cars are their big cars like the Buick LeSabre. Another thing to consider is, what type of problems did JD Power consider to be relevant? I was focusing mainly on mechanical issues. Other than a handful of auto tranny issues with V6-powered cars, most of the gripes that people have had with recent Hondas are of the fit-and-finish type (such as interior rattles, which are becoming common on many new cars by most manufacturers). For those who keep their cars for 5 years or more, I would still tend to believe that Hondas (and Toyotas) will be more mechanically reliable than GMs when they get up there in age. |
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Agree totally, S.S.
If I had to cross the country in an 8 year old Cadillac (in 2013, say), I would cringe. If I had to do it in an 8 year old Civic, I know that I'd get there without breaking down. |
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