Toyota trans question

From the VIN of a 92 Camry, is it possible to tell if it came with a
stick or auto trans?

jt2sk12f4n0077268

Thanks,
Ray

On Jan 21, 10:22*pm, news > wrote:
> *From the VIN of a 92 Camry, is it possible to tell if it came with a
> stick or auto trans?
>
> jt2sk12f4n0077268
>
> Thanks,
> Ray

That is a 4 cylinder, which I have never seen paired with a stick, so
I'll say it has an automatic. The only (Camry) sticks I've seen from
1992 to 1996 were in the SE V6 coupe. BTW, that VIN doesn't quite
look legitimate but I'm no VIN expert. At minimum I'm thinking the
"F" is wrong.

Toyota MDT in MO

Comboverfish wrote:
> On Jan 21, 10:22 pm, news > wrote:
>> From the VIN of a 92 Camry, is it possible to tell if it came with a
>> stick or auto trans?
>>
>> jt2sk12f4n0077268
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ray
>
> That is a 4 cylinder, which I have never seen paired with a stick, so
> I'll say it has an automatic. The only (Camry) sticks I've seen from
> 1992 to 1996 were in the SE V6 coupe. BTW, that VIN doesn't quite
> look legitimate but I'm no VIN expert. At minimum I'm thinking the
> "F" is wrong.
>
> Toyota MDT in MO

from carfax:
1992 TOYOTA CAMRY LE
JT2SK12F4N0077268
SEDAN 4 DR
2.2L L4 FI 16V / FRONT WHEEL DRIVE

short version of why I want to know - this car bumped my wife's car in a
parking lot 2 years ago. They left it touching her car. The other
driver was found at fault. Now, they're trying to get it overturned.
By what I don't know, but my theory was it was a stick and they left it
in neutral when parking it and it rolled.

Ray

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:01:10 GMT, Ray > wrote:
>short version of why I want to know - this car bumped my wife's car in a
>parking lot 2 years ago. They left it touching her car. The other
>driver was found at fault. Now, they're trying to get it overturned.
>By what I don't know, but my theory was it was a stick and they left it
>in neutral when parking it and it rolled.

That's irrelevent.

AZ Nomad wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:01:10 GMT, Ray > wrote:
>> short version of why I want to know - this car bumped my wife's car in a
>> parking lot 2 years ago. They left it touching her car. The other
>> driver was found at fault. Now, they're trying to get it overturned.
>> By what I don't know, but my theory was it was a stick and they left it
>> in neutral when parking it and it rolled.
>
> That's irrelevent.

no it's not.

Side note: In manitoba, we have public insurance, so it's only one
insurance company.

My wife's car was parked and hit by another car. The other driver
denies doing it despite the fact the cars were touching when my wife
came back to her car. The accident was deemed the fault of the other
driver, who maintains her innocence. She's now taking us to small
claims court in the hope a judge will overturn the liability for the
accident. (that's the final appeals process here for car accidents.)

How is that possible? One scenario I can see her trying is the fact
that it's a she said - she said thing - my wife can't prove anything,
and the other driver could say that my wife hit HER car and is covering
it up. (although, if she was, why would she leave a note, file a
security report, file an insurance claim, and a police report too?)

I'm not worried about losing in court, just looking to cover all my
bases. I've wondered if the other car was a stick and was left in
neutral and rolled forward into my wife's car, because what kind of
idiot leaves their car TOUCHING another car?

So, because no one actually can prove what happened, and there's no
witnesses, I'm trying to make sure that any loopholes work out in our
favor. (For example, on the accident report, the other driver mentions
that she was involved in another accident the SAME DAY. that'll look
real good in front of the judge.)

Court sucks. And because it's small claims court, a lawyer @ $100/hour
is out, because I can't even recover my costs if they're greater than $100.

All this for virtually no damage, and if the owner of the Toyota had
left a message saying "oops, sorry, I bumped your car" we would have
said "sh*t happens, it's a 16 year old car." But instead, they left
this Camry humping the Beretta.

Ray

"Ray" > wrote in message
news%nlj.65532
> My wife's car was parked and hit by another car. The other driver denies
> doing it despite the fact the cars were touching when my wife came back to
> her car.

If you wife's car were legally parked, and she was not in it, it would seem
that is
a platform of your case. Did your car roll, as you might suspect that the
other car
did? (If your wife's car were still in the legal parking limits, then this
might offset the
possibility that your car rolled.)

Was the other car outside its parking limit? Whether the other woman drove
into
your car, or the car made contact by rolling, if it nudged into your space,
the other
woman should be liable for failure to control her vehicle.

Dont know anything about law there, but if you can support your position I
might
think you would be in good shape before a judge.

Ray wrote:
>
> AZ Nomad wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:01:10 GMT, Ray > wrote:
> >> short version of why I want to know - this car bumped my wife's car in a
> >> parking lot 2 years ago. They left it touching her car. The other
> >> driver was found at fault. Now, they're trying to get it overturned.
> >> By what I don't know, but my theory was it was a stick and they left it
> >> in neutral when parking it and it rolled.
> >
> > That's irrelevent.
>
> no it's not.
>
> Side note: In manitoba, we have public insurance, so it's only one
> insurance company.
>
> My wife's car was parked and hit by another car. The other driver
> denies doing it despite the fact the cars were touching when my wife
> came back to her car. The accident was deemed the fault of the other
> driver, who maintains her innocence. She's now taking us to small
> claims court in the hope a judge will overturn the liability for the
> accident. (that's the final appeals process here for car accidents.)
>
> How is that possible? One scenario I can see her trying is the fact
> that it's a she said - she said thing - my wife can't prove anything,
> and the other driver could say that my wife hit HER car and is covering
> it up. (although, if she was, why would she leave a note, file a
> security report, file an insurance claim, and a police report too?)
>
> I'm not worried about losing in court, just looking to cover all my
> bases. I've wondered if the other car was a stick and was left in
> neutral and rolled forward into my wife's car, because what kind of
> idiot leaves their car TOUCHING another car?

I suspect your wife is going to be found at fault. Not because you have
presented evidence for that, but because you haven't described what
happened in a way any one reading your post could tell what happened. If
you describe what happened in court in the same way you will lose.

-jim



>
> So, because no one actually can prove what happened, and there's no
> witnesses, I'm trying to make sure that any loopholes work out in our
> favor. (For example, on the accident report, the other driver mentions
> that she was involved in another accident the SAME DAY. that'll look
> real good in front of the judge.)
>
> Court sucks. And because it's small claims court, a lawyer @ $100/hour
> is out, because I can't even recover my costs if they're greater than $100.
>
> All this for virtually no damage, and if the owner of the Toyota had
> left a message saying "oops, sorry, I bumped your car" we would have
> said "sh*t happens, it's a 16 year old car." But instead, they left
> this Camry humping the Beretta.
>
> Ray

HLS wrote:
>
> "Ray" > wrote in message
> news%nlj.65532
>> My wife's car was parked and hit by another car. The other driver
>> denies doing it despite the fact the cars were touching when my wife
>> came back to her car.
>
> If you wife's car were legally parked, and she was not in it, it would
> seem that is
> a platform of your case. Did your car roll, as you might suspect that
> the other car
> did? (If your wife's car were still in the legal parking limits, then
> this might offset the
> possibility that your car rolled.)
>
> Was the other car outside its parking limit? Whether the other woman
> drove into
> your car, or the car made contact by rolling, if it nudged into your
> space, the other
> woman should be liable for failure to control her vehicle.
>
> Dont know anything about law there, but if you can support your position
> I might
> think you would be in good shape before a judge.


Our car is an automatic, so it's not rolling anywhere. Actually, the
parking pawl is buggered, so it DOES roll about a foot, which is why you
have to set the park brake on it. Been like that for about 5 years.

Still, our car was parked at 7:30 am, the other driver got there around
3:30pm, so our car hadn't moved in about 8 hours...


We're actually planning on contacting the other party to see if we can
work something out instead of going to court. The total damage to a 16
year old Beretta was under $500 and had they left a note we probably
would have said "whatever" and not worried about it. As we haven't had
our car fixed yet, we can still withdraw the claim if they pay us out.
Manitoba Public insurance also allows them to purchase the accident and
keep a claims-free status. We're pretty sure that's why they're suing
as the other driver had another accident the same day with the same car,
totalling it, and we're guessing at fault for - all the damage to the
other driver's car was right side near the rear door and tire... like
maybe they ran a light and got T-boned or turned left in front of someone.

Anyway, still want to know if it's a stick. Toyota of Canada hasn't
emailed me back, so I'll just go visit a dealer and ask.

On Jan 23, 7:48*am, Ray >
wrote:
> HLS wrote:
>
> > "Ray" > wrote in message
> > news%nlj.65532
> >> My wife's car was parked and hit by another car. *The other driver
> >> denies doing it despite the fact the cars were touching when my wife
> >> came back to her car.
>
> > If you wife's car were legally parked, and she was not in it, it would
> > seem that is
> > a platform of your case. *Did your car roll, as you might suspect that
> > the other car
> > did? * (If your wife's car were still in the legal parking limits, then
> > this might offset the
> > possibility that your car rolled.)
>
> > Was the other car outside its parking limit? *Whether the other woman
> > drove into
> > your car, or the car made contact by rolling, if it nudged into your
> > space, the other
> > woman should be liable for failure to control her vehicle.
>
> > Dont know anything about law there, but if you can support your position
> > I might
> > think you would be in good shape before a judge.
>
> Our car is an automatic, so it's not rolling anywhere. *Actually, the
> parking pawl is buggered, so it DOES roll about a foot, which is why you
> * have to set the park brake on it. *Been like that for about 5 years.
>
> Still, our car was parked at 7:30 am, the other driver got there around
> 3:30pm, so our car hadn't moved in about 8 hours...
>
> We're actually planning on contacting the other party to see if we can
> work something out instead of going to court. *The total damage to a 16
> year old Beretta was under $500 and had they left a note we probably
> would have said "whatever" and not worried about it. As we haven't had
> our car fixed yet, we can still withdraw the claim if they pay us out.
> Manitoba Public insurance also allows them to purchase the accident and
> keep a claims-free status. *We're pretty sure that's why they're suing
> as the other driver had another accident the same day with the same car,
> totalling it, and we're guessing at fault for - all the damage to the
> other driver's car was right side near the rear door and tire... like
> maybe they ran a light and got T-boned or turned left in front of someone.
>
> Anyway, still want to know if it's a stick. *Toyota of Canada hasn't
> emailed me back, so I'll just go visit a dealer and ask.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have incomplete info for 1992 and no OEM vin decoder. Knowing that
you are in Canada changes things from my last answer. If this is a
Canada spec car the "F" digit may be legitimate, but I don't know what
it stands for. From my info and from some guessing it looks like a
Canada spec DX or LX 4 cylinder *can* be equipped with the 5 speed
manual transaxle, but I would guess thay are made in limited number.
It's still highly likely that this Camry has an automatic. Nothing
beats asking the owner or looking at it.

Toyota MDT in MO

jim wrote:
>
> I suspect your wife is going to be found at fault. Not because you have
> presented evidence for that, but because you haven't described what
> happened in a way any one reading your post could tell what happened. If
> you describe what happened in court in the same way you will lose.
>
> -jim

well, I won't be bringing it up if they don't.

It's my wife's word vs the other driver's.
A vehicle hit a parked unmanned vehicle, so it can't be 50-50.

My wife left a note, contacted security (who took pictures and amended
the note for the other driver to contact security), had the driver
paged, contacted the insurance company, had to file a hit and run
report, has a clean driving record, and according to the security
guard's notes, "was very upset."

the other driver: Told the police she thought the note was a joke,
didn't call because she didn't want to talk to strangers (she's 28!),
was involved in another $4000 car accident the same day, was driving her
father's car.

The insurance company has already found in our favor once. I'm 99%
convinced of a win. We have contacted the other party to discuss
settling this outside of court - it was $450 damage to our car, and they
can either buy us out (haven't had it fixed yet) or pay off the
insurance company and have a clean record. That's cheaper than what
their premiums will go up by. We still haven't ruled out a $100/hour
shark lawyer, because I don't want to lose. Also, the other driver said
there was no damage to her car, so even if we lose, all we have to do is
pull the claim and we don't even lose because then the insurance company
pays nothing and nothing happens to anyone's license/insurance.

My wife's still ****ed about it tho - someone smacked her car and LEFT
IT THERE.

Ray