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Old June 1st 04, 06:54 PM
Ross
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Hi All

I'm due 2 new tyres on the front of my 147 1.6 soon and would appreciate
some advice.

It's currently fitted with Goodyear Eagle NCT5's which give great grip and
feel but I'd like some more life (16K miles and down to 2mm) and they are a
bit noisy on a lot of surfaces.

I'm tempted to stick with them as they perform well and it'll mean not
mixing them with the rears. Plus I've driven later 147's with Firestone's
fitted and didn't like them at all.

My local tyre place has recommended Goodyear Hydragrip's as quieter,longer
life, and similar grip/feel, but I can't find much out about them.

I've had Pirelli P6000's on other cars and have liked them but found them
noisy.

Any other suggestions gratefully received.

Regards
Ross


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Old June 1st 04, 08:49 PM
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Ross > wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I'm due 2 new tyres on the front of my 147 1.6 soon and would appreciate
> some advice.
>
> It's currently fitted with Goodyear Eagle NCT5's which give great grip and
> feel but I'd like some more life (16K miles and down to 2mm) and they are a
> bit noisy on a lot of surfaces.


Personally, I'm not a big fan of NCT5s - had a pair fitted to the front
of the 155 last week, and found they squeel at the slightest
provocation, and don't ultimately have a huge amount of grip. P6000s are
much better in this respect.

Can't see what you're complaining about at 16k life, if I get 8k out of
a pair of fronts on a FWD car, or rears on RWD, then I'm more than
happy. (I used to use Yokohama's finest sticky stuff - 3k miles per set)

> I'm tempted to stick with them as they perform well and it'll mean not
> mixing them with the rears. Plus I've driven later 147's with Firestone's
> fitted and didn't like them at all.
>
> My local tyre place has recommended Goodyear Hydragrip's as quieter,longer
> life, and similar grip/feel, but I can't find much out about them.


Personally, I wouldn't have Goodyears ever again - so far I've had NCT3s
and NCT5s and they're not worth the £40 saving over a pair of P6000s.

> I've had Pirelli P6000's on other cars and have liked them but found them
> noisy.


Put up with the noise - P6000s (not the Powergy version, though) are
lovely, sticky and progressive tyres when driven hard.

You won't see 16k miles out of a pair, though. You must drive like a
nun!

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Old June 2nd 04, 10:45 AM
Tom Boltwood
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<snip>
> Personally, I wouldn't have Goodyears ever again - so far I've had NCT3s
> and NCT5s and they're not worth the £40 saving over a pair of P6000s.

<snip>

After discovering the wonderful (and cheap) Goodyear Eagle Venturas I can't
see myself owning another tyre again. They **** all over my P6000s which I
were bitterly disappointed with.

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Old June 2nd 04, 01:49 PM
Pete
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:45:51 +0100, Tom Boltwood >,
wrote:

>After discovering the wonderful (and cheap) Goodyear Eagle Venturas I can't
>see myself owning another tyre again. They **** all over my P6000s


I did not know that Goodyear made urinating tyres.
How often do you have to refill them, and what happens
when you get a blow-out ???

Pete
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Old June 2nd 04, 03:51 PM
Tom Boltwood
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> From: >
> Organization: Zen Internet
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.alfa-romeo
> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:49:31 +0100
> Subject: Tyre Advice, Please.
>
> On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:45:51 +0100, Tom Boltwood >,
> wrote:
>
>> After discovering the wonderful (and cheap) Goodyear Eagle Venturas I can't
>> see myself owning another tyre again. They **** all over my P6000s

>
> I did not know that Goodyear made urinating tyres.
> How often do you have to refill them, and what happens
> when you get a blow-out ???
>

They are connected to the roof gutters. I'm not sure what happens in case of
a blow out, but urination couldn't be simpler, they just lift their legs.

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Old June 2nd 04, 05:12 PM
Ross
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"Tom Boltwood" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> After discovering the wonderful (and cheap) Goodyear Eagle Venturas I

can't
> see myself owning another tyre again. They **** all over my P6000s which I
> were bitterly disappointed with.
>


Do you know how the Venturas compare to the NCT5's? More expensive, softer
or harder, quieter?

Regards
Ross



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Old June 2nd 04, 05:16 PM
Ross
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"SteveH" > wrote in message
k...
> Personally, I'm not a big fan of NCT5s - had a pair fitted to the front
> of the 155 last week, and found they squeel at the slightest
> provocation, and don't ultimately have a huge amount of grip.


Perhaps they don't suit the 155? I haven't found they squeal on the 147, and
give plenty of grip.

> Personally, I wouldn't have Goodyears ever again - so far I've had NCT3s
> and NCT5s and they're not worth the £40 saving over a pair of P6000s.
>


Actually I've been quoted cheaper, but only by a few quid, on the Pirelli's.


> Put up with the noise - P6000s (not the Powergy version, though) are
> lovely, sticky and progressive tyres when driven hard.
>
> You won't see 16k miles out of a pair, though. You must drive like a
> nun!


I like to think of my driving style as more Mother Superior! ;-)

Regards
Ross




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Old June 3rd 04, 11:16 AM
Tom Boltwood
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> From: "Ross" >
> Reply-To: "Ross" >
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.alfa-romeo
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:12:17 +0100
> Subject: Tyre Advice, Please.
>
>
> "Tom Boltwood" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> After discovering the wonderful (and cheap) Goodyear Eagle Venturas I

> can't
>> see myself owning another tyre again. They **** all over my P6000s which I
>> were bitterly disappointed with.
>>

>
> Do you know how the Venturas compare to the NCT5's? More expensive, softer
> or harder, quieter?
>

I don't know anything about the NCT5's I'm afraid. The Venturas are 55 quid
for 205 50 15s. Their grip is progressive and very, very good especially in
the wet. They don't seem to be any more noisy than any other tyre I've used.
In terms of longevity I don't know, I've only had them on for about three or
four thousand miles but they don't seem very worn.

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Old June 3rd 04, 11:51 AM
Martin
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Have a look at Dunlops (Sport SP 2000 or something). I was dubious when
they were fitted to my prevous car (Golf 1.8Turbo) but found them far
superior to the P6000 in every respect.

Now have 156 Sportwagon 2.4JTD (175BHP) - and she is sweet! Tyres not yet
run in so cant give a view on them at the mo...


"Tom Boltwood" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> > From: "Ross" >
> > Reply-To: "Ross" >
> > Newsgroups: alt.autos.alfa-romeo
> > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:12:17 +0100
> > Subject: Tyre Advice, Please.
> >
> >
> > "Tom Boltwood" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >>
> >>
> >> After discovering the wonderful (and cheap) Goodyear Eagle Venturas I

> > can't
> >> see myself owning another tyre again. They **** all over my P6000s

which I
> >> were bitterly disappointed with.
> >>

> >
> > Do you know how the Venturas compare to the NCT5's? More expensive,

softer
> > or harder, quieter?
> >

> I don't know anything about the NCT5's I'm afraid. The Venturas are 55

quid
> for 205 50 15s. Their grip is progressive and very, very good especially

in
> the wet. They don't seem to be any more noisy than any other tyre I've

used.
> In terms of longevity I don't know, I've only had them on for about three

or
> four thousand miles but they don't seem very worn.
>



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Old June 3rd 04, 11:58 AM
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Martin > wrote:

> Have a look at Dunlops (Sport SP 2000 or something). I was dubious when
> they were fitted to my prevous car (Golf 1.8Turbo) but found them far
> superior to the P6000 in every respect.


I've got SP200s on the front of the 75, and you're right, they are good.
Probably wouldn't rate them higher than the P6000s on the rear, but it's
a close call.

Now, my 155 is very interesting at the moment with reasonably grippy
NCT5s on the front and teflon Cheng Shan budgets on the back.

Think I might go back for a matching pair of NCT5s on pay day.
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