64 vw steering adjustment - wheels rubs when turned hard right

When I crank my wheel hard to the right, the inside of the tire rubs on
the floorpan on my 64 beetle convertible. On the ball joint beams on
newer beetles (66 on) , there is a wheel lock stop that can be ajusted
to limit the distance of the turn, preventing this from happening. I
can't find anything similar on the linkpin setup on my 64. Is an
adjustment of this type possible on the linkpin type front end? Thanks
in advance.

oldnslo wrote:
> When I crank my wheel hard to the right, the inside of the tire rubs on
> the floorpan on my 64 beetle convertible. On the ball joint beams on
> newer beetles (66 on) , there is a wheel lock stop that can be ajusted
> to limit the distance of the turn, preventing this from happening. I
> can't find anything similar on the linkpin setup on my 64. Is an
> adjustment of this type possible on the linkpin type front end? Thanks
> in advance.
>

It's possible that the tie rods have been mis-adjusted at some point,
or the steering box moved (sideways) on the beam. I don't think '64
beam has the welded "tits" (tech term) to locate the box.

The critical thing in re-adjusting the tie rods is to ensure that
the straight-ahead position of the steering shaft corresponds to the
tightest mesh of the gears. New boxes were marked with a slotted band
(looks like wedding ring) on the wormshaft to indicate straight-ahead,
but you can't always rely on it.

Short answer: I can't give you a pat "how-to". Be cautious if
you decide to re-adjust the tie rods; you may wish you had just
learned to live with the rubbing.

I suppose one could weld a stop on the beam as a last resort...


Speedy Jim
http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/

Pretend it is a NASCAR and just turn left!!

Fweem.

Dave


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Greensboro, NC 27407

Also an antique VW nut!
"oldnslo" > wrote in message
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> Speedy Jim wrote:
> > oldnslo wrote:
> > > When I crank my wheel hard to the right, the inside of the tire rubs
on
> > > the floorpan on my 64 beetle convertible. On the ball joint beams on
> > > newer beetles (66 on) , there is a wheel lock stop that can be ajusted
> > > to limit the distance of the turn, preventing this from happening. I
> > > can't find anything similar on the linkpin setup on my 64. Is an
> > > adjustment of this type possible on the linkpin type front end?
Thanks
> > > in advance.
> > >
> >
> > It's possible that the tie rods have been mis-adjusted at some point,
> ...
> > I suppose one could weld a stop on the beam as a last resort...
> >
> >
> > Speedy Jim
> > http://www.nls.net/mp/volks/
>
> Thanks Jim. That's the conclusion I came to on my own, but I wanted to
> get a second opinion. I guess I'm not as dumb as I look. I've done a
> fair amount of research, but can't find any specs on the measurement of
> the placement of the steering box, but I kinda doubt that it could have
> moved much. I've owned the car for 30 some years and it's something
> that I've learned to live with. I've never had anything done to the
> box but an occasional snugging up and topping off with oil. She tracks
> down the road extremely well and the steering is well within tolerance,
> so it seems unlikely that there is much wrong with the tie rods, etc.
> Probably the easiest way is to live with it, but I will investigate
> welding a stop somewhere to limit the turn. It doesn't have to do
> much, since it's rubs mostly when I am backing up. After spending the
> last few years restoring her, it just sorta drives me nuts when I
> forget. Of course for me, that is a pretty short trip....
>

oldnslo wrote:
> When I crank my wheel hard to the right, the inside of the tire rubs on
> the floorpan on my 64 beetle convertible. On the ball joint beams on
> newer beetles (66 on) , there is a wheel lock stop that can be ajusted
> to limit the distance of the turn, preventing this from happening. I
> can't find anything similar on the linkpin setup on my 64. Is an
> adjustment of this type possible on the linkpin type front end? Thanks
> in advance.
>
>
65 and older car do not have a steering angle limit. It is made by the
spindle itself. when bushings are seriously worn the steering travel
increase.
if all is tight you have to weld on the point just in the rear of the
thread of the front backing plate bolt. this is the angle limiter.

You are not alone with this problem I have a 73 and it does the same thing.
I just don't turn it so hard to the right.: ' )

"Peppe" > wrote in message
...
> oldnslo wrote:
>> When I crank my wheel hard to the right, the inside of the tire rubs on
>> the floorpan on my 64 beetle convertible. On the ball joint beams on
>> newer beetles (66 on) , there is a wheel lock stop that can be ajusted
>> to limit the distance of the turn, preventing this from happening. I
>> can't find anything similar on the linkpin setup on my 64. Is an
>> adjustment of this type possible on the linkpin type front end? Thanks
>> in advance.
>>
>>
> 65 and older car do not have a steering angle limit. It is made by the
> spindle itself. when bushings are seriously worn the steering travel
> increase.
> if all is tight you have to weld on the point just in the rear of the
> thread of the front backing plate bolt. this is the angle limiter.
>
>