Oil can be made

Methane gas is an abundant natural resource. It is CH4 One part carbon 4
parts hydrogen. It is emitted by Animals and rotting garbage.

In a recent experiment some Methane was subjected to intense pressure and as
a result Crude oil was the by product. One of the big oil sayings and the
green people is that we will run out of crude oil. I think it is impossible
to do. With all of the animals and garbage on this planet every day, we will
never run out of Crude Oil.


I think it is time for all of you to contact your congressmen and senators
and ask them why we do not start making crude oil without drilling.

All of the garbage dumps should be fitted with methane recovery systems.
Even barns where cattle are kept can be fitted with devices of that sort.

What do you all think?

Les Benn wrote:
> Methane gas is an abundant natural resource. It is CH4 One part
> carbon 4 parts hydrogen. It is emitted by Animals and rotting
> garbage.
> In a recent experiment some Methane was subjected to intense
> pressure and as a result Crude oil was the by product. One of the
> big oil sayings and the green people is that we will run out of
> crude oil. I think it is impossible to do. With all of the animals
> and garbage on this planet every day, we will never run out of
> Crude Oil.
>
> I think it is time for all of you to contact your congressmen and
> senators and ask them why we do not start making crude oil without
> drilling.
> All of the garbage dumps should be fitted with methane recovery
> systems. Even barns where cattle are kept can be fitted with
> devices of that sort.
> What do you all think?

I think "crude oil" is not what results from pressurizing methane gas.

There may be easily stored and transportable combustibles that can be
produced from naturally-occurring processes, but "crude oil" implies
subsequent refining is required, and that and its energy requirements,
as well as the impact of invitable combustion and by-products are
probably not much different from what happens now.

It's a good idea to harness methane, and I hope someone does it on a
significant scale. It will take large investments of money and time.
Meanwhile, let's see if we can divert some of the good-ol'-boy money
from corn to something with a reasonable future.

--
Frank ess

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:13:20 -0700, Les Benn rearranged some electrons to
say:

> Methane gas is an abundant natural resource. It is CH4 One part carbon 4
> parts hydrogen. It is emitted by Animals and rotting garbage.
>
> In a recent experiment some Methane was subjected to intense pressure
> and as a result Crude oil was the by product. One of the big oil sayings
> and the green people is that we will run out of crude oil. I think it is
> impossible to do. With all of the animals and garbage on this planet
> every day, we will never run out of Crude Oil.
>
>
> I think it is time for all of you to contact your congressmen and
> senators and ask them why we do not start making crude oil without
> drilling.
>
> All of the garbage dumps should be fitted with methane recovery systems.
> Even barns where cattle are kept can be fitted with devices of that
> sort.
>
> What do you all think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fuel

The technology was invented nearly 100 years ago.

Les Benn wrote:
> Methane gas is an abundant natural resource. It is CH4 One part carbon 4
> parts hydrogen. It is emitted by Animals and rotting garbage.
>
> In a recent experiment some Methane was subjected to intense pressure and as
> a result Crude oil was the by product. One of the big oil sayings and the
> green people is that we will run out of crude oil. I think it is impossible
> to do. With all of the animals and garbage on this planet every day, we will
> never run out of Crude Oil.
>
>
> I think it is time for all of you to contact your congressmen and senators
> and ask them why we do not start making crude oil without drilling.
>
> All of the garbage dumps should be fitted with methane recovery systems.
> Even barns where cattle are kept can be fitted with devices of that sort.
>
> What do you all think?
>
>

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=18410

Methane is abundant on Saturn's moon titan. And without any biological
processes to account for it. Why then is it considered absurd my so
many to doubt the fossil origin of methane, an abundant gas on earth?

We know we can synthesize oil from methane. So if we can using heat and
pressure why couldn't that same process be occurring naturally inside
earth? Lays a little doubt at the feet of the Fossil fuel peak oil
alarmists. Perhaps oil is more abundant on earth than imagined or
admitted to. Who do you think would profit from propagating the scarce
resource theory?

On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 15:13:20 -0700, "Les Benn" > wrote:

>Methane gas is an abundant natural resource. It is CH4 One part carbon 4
>parts hydrogen. It is emitted by Animals and rotting garbage.
>
>In a recent experiment some Methane was subjected to intense pressure and as
>a result Crude oil was the by product. One of the big oil sayings and the
>green people is that we will run out of crude oil. I think it is impossible
>to do. With all of the animals and garbage on this planet every day, we will
>never run out of Crude Oil.
>
>
>I think it is time for all of you to contact your congressmen and senators
>and ask them why we do not start making crude oil without drilling.
>
>All of the garbage dumps should be fitted with methane recovery systems.
>Even barns where cattle are kept can be fitted with devices of that sort.
>
>What do you all think?
>

I have yet to see the cost of conversion of methane in quantity.

It's one thing to produce a small quantity under controlled conditions
in a lab, and quite another to produce on a large scale.

There is zero doubt that there is sufficient methane available. In
fact, in California, dairy farmers, stockyards, etc, are comverting
mountains of manure and settling ponds to trap methane. Initial use is
for the facilities directly for power production to run lights,
machinery, etc.

If similar facilities can be converted, and excess, passed on to other
converted systems, the oil reserves would be extended. If there is
insufficient methane, we could always run a piping system to
extraterrestrial sources.

Seriously, methane is very abundant in solid form in the deep oceans.
In fact, it is a serious concern for proponents of global cooling. As
ocean leavels drop to become gigantic sheets of glacial ice on land,
the pressure required to keep the methane in solidity will drop. This
will release great quantities of methane into the atmosphere. This
would poison the atmosphere, and there is an added danger of a global
"explosion" resulting in a conflagaration which eliminates a greater
portion of the worlds populace. This would tremendously extend the
available oil reserves.

All in all, the best solution, since a complete social change on a
worldwide basis regarding the use of fossil fuels, is a huge reduction
in world populations. Essentially, starting over with the knowledge we
possess today. Only a sudden leap in technology would, as far as I can
see, be an alternative solution. Even at that the population levels
are too great.

On 2009-08-30, columbotrek > wrote:

> Methane is abundant on Saturn's moon titan. And without any biological
> processes to account for it. Why then is it considered absurd my so
> many to doubt the fossil origin of methane, an abundant gas on earth?

The reason why is rather simple, science is not pure and like anything
else questioning the status quo opens one up to be called a kook. A
politically established theory is very difficult to get rid of even if
there is a mountain of evidence for something else. With regard to the
general public many people can't let go of what they were taught in
grade school.

Considering all the hydrocarbons in the solar system in addition to the
depths that oil has been found at it's unlikely that all oil or all
hydrocarbons on earth are from life forms. My guess is that some is and
some isn't.

"Frank ess" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Les Benn wrote:
>> Methane gas is an abundant natural resource. It is CH4 One part
>> carbon 4 parts hydrogen. It is emitted by Animals and rotting

<snip>

>> What do you all think?
>
> I think "crude oil" is not what results from pressurizing methane gas.
>
> There may be easily stored and transportable combustibles that can be
> produced from naturally-occurring processes, but "crude oil" implies
> subsequent refining is required, and that and its energy requirements, as
> well as the impact of invitable combustion and by-products are probably
> not much different from what happens now.
>
> It's a good idea to harness methane, and I hope someone does it on a
> significant scale. It will take large investments of money and time.
> Meanwhile, let's see if we can divert some of the good-ol'-boy money from
> corn to something with a reasonable future.


"Harness methane"? "Someone" has already done it on a significant scale.
Methane is natural gas. I've harnessed it (with the help of my local gas
company) to heat my house, cook my food, and provide me with hot water.

Paul