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Old November 5th 05, 08:27 PM
Dave
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jaybird wrote:
> "Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >,
> > jaybird > wrote:
> >>
> >>The most courteous are older Black males, but the most rude are younger
> >>Black males.

> >
> > That's because the older ones have been literally beaten down by
> > your bretheren.

>
> Nice trolling attempt, but that aside I think they're just more mature about
> things, and many younger black males still have the chip on their shoulder
> they've been conditioned to have since birth. Not all, but many. I stopped
> a very nice older black man the other day. He was a retired Army First
> Sergeant, we had a very cordial conversation and he went on down the road.
> Believe it or not, he had never been beaten and I didn't even beat him this
> time!
>
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> I am not the cause of your problems.
> My actions are the result of your actions.
> Your life is not my fault.


Many of the black males I know, regardless if they're older or younger,
remember things like Rodney King, and other things they've seen in the
media, or in some cases seen firsthand. If it comes up, I've never
heard one say they're not scared of it happening to them.

While it's not likely, and I don't assume all cops are racist, but
unfortunately there's some bad apples in any group. They just probably
are covering their bases, since they don't know who you are other than
you have a gun and you're assumed to be right always.

I behave that way if I'm pulled over too. I don't want to be
remembered as "the guy who pulled a wallet on a cop."

Dave

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Old November 5th 05, 08:28 PM
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jaybird wrote:
> "Scott en Aztlán" > wrote in message
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> > On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:12:55 GMT, "jaybird" > wrote:
> >
> >>2. Hispanics without licenses or insurance (all over the place around
> >>here
> >>since we're so close to Mexico. They get their cars towed and they getto
> >>walk).

> >
> > Texas has that law, too?
> >
> > The Lone Star State just went up another notch in my book.

>
> We used to throw them in jail but they complained because it was taking up
> too much space. Now we have to write tickets and tow cars.
>
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> Your life is not my fault.


I'm impressed they do that. The assholes should be locked up, but at
least they lose that car - until they steal or buy another.

Dave

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Old November 6th 05, 12:18 AM
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In article >,
jaybird > wrote:
>
>"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> jaybird > wrote:
>>>
>>>The most courteous are older Black males, but the most rude are younger
>>>Black males.

>>
>> That's because the older ones have been literally beaten down by
>> your bretheren.

>
>Nice trolling attempt, but that aside I think they're just more mature about
>things


"Maturity" is often used as a synonym for "willingness to knuckle
under". From cops, nearly always so.

>, and many younger black males still have the chip on their shoulder
>they've been conditioned to have since birth. Not all, but many. I stopped
>a very nice older black man the other day. He was a retired Army First
>Sergeant, we had a very cordial conversation and he went on down the road.
>Believe it or not, he had never been beaten and I didn't even beat him this
>time!


Naa, he got his beating down in the Army.
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Old November 6th 05, 07:20 AM
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On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:12:55 GMT, jaybird > said the
following in rec.autos.driving...

> 2. Hispanics without licenses or insurance (all over the place around here
> since we're so close to Mexico. They get their cars towed and they get to
> walk).
>


Maybe this is a stupid question, but if these hispanics have no license
or other form of ID, then why are they walking and not being given an
escort back to Mexico courtesy of the INS (or what ever they call
themselves these days)?

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Old November 6th 05, 07:22 AM
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On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 10:12:08 -0600, Dan J.S. > said the
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> wouldn't the insurance institute take that under consideration?
>
>


Doubt it. All the IIHS is interested in is anything that will put more
people into high risk categories and allow insurance companies to raise
their rates.

They are one of the most biased and unethical "research," organizations
outthere.

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Old November 7th 05, 06:24 PM
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"Dave" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
> jaybird wrote:
>> "Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >,
>> > jaybird > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>The most courteous are older Black males, but the most rude are younger
>> >>Black males.
>> >
>> > That's because the older ones have been literally beaten down by
>> > your bretheren.

>>
>> Nice trolling attempt, but that aside I think they're just more mature
>> about
>> things, and many younger black males still have the chip on their
>> shoulder
>> they've been conditioned to have since birth. Not all, but many. I
>> stopped
>> a very nice older black man the other day. He was a retired Army First
>> Sergeant, we had a very cordial conversation and he went on down the
>> road.
>> Believe it or not, he had never been beaten and I didn't even beat him
>> this
>> time!
>>
>> --
>> ---
>> jaybird
>> ---
>> I am not the cause of your problems.
>> My actions are the result of your actions.
>> Your life is not my fault.

>
> Many of the black males I know, regardless if they're older or younger,
> remember things like Rodney King, and other things they've seen in the
> media, or in some cases seen firsthand. If it comes up, I've never
> heard one say they're not scared of it happening to them.


I've seen that happen to people of all races though when they are on drugs
and run from the cops. Many of the black males I know don't engage in that
kind of activity so they're not too worried about it. Regardless of the
outcome, that was the initial cause.

>
> While it's not likely, and I don't assume all cops are racist, but
> unfortunately there's some bad apples in any group. They just probably
> are covering their bases, since they don't know who you are other than
> you have a gun and you're assumed to be right always.


True, but when people choose to engage in more serious criminal activity,
the ends can't always be predicted whether they're right or wrong.

>
> I behave that way if I'm pulled over too. I don't want to be
> remembered as "the guy who pulled a wallet on a cop."


Me too.

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Old November 7th 05, 06:28 PM
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"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> jaybird > wrote:
>>
>>"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >,
>>> jaybird > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The most courteous are older Black males, but the most rude are younger
>>>>Black males.
>>>
>>> That's because the older ones have been literally beaten down by
>>> your bretheren.

>>
>>Nice trolling attempt, but that aside I think they're just more mature
>>about
>>things

>
> "Maturity" is often used as a synonym for "willingness to knuckle
> under". From cops, nearly always so.


No, I meant it literally.

>
>>, and many younger black males still have the chip on their shoulder
>>they've been conditioned to have since birth. Not all, but many. I
>>stopped
>>a very nice older black man the other day. He was a retired Army First
>>Sergeant, we had a very cordial conversation and he went on down the road.
>>Believe it or not, he had never been beaten and I didn't even beat him
>>this
>>time!

>
> Naa, he got his beating down in the Army.


I didn't see any evidence of that either. We both had a mutual, adult
conversation and there was no animosity given or felt in return.

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Old November 7th 05, 06:29 PM
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"Ben" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:22:52 GMT, "jaybird" > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Ben" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:17:39 -0800, Scott en Aztlán
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:12:55 GMT, "jaybird" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>2. Hispanics without licenses or insurance (all over the place around
>>>>>here
>>>>>since we're so close to Mexico. They get their cars towed and they get
>>>>>to
>>>>>walk).
>>>>
>>>>Texas has that law, too?
>>>>
>>>
>>> must be relatively recent if he means it's mandatory. Of course, in
>>> some juristdictions it's been SOP for years, but only if you were
>>> hispanic.

>>
>>It's not mandatory but we can't leave the car on the side of the road and
>>obviously no one in the car can legally drive it so it has to be
>>impounded.

>
> But you apparently CAN ignore uninsured drivers who commit hit-and-run
> accidents.
>
> Or was that just another example of a city PD in Texas being too
> ****ing lazy to enforce the law?


You'll have to throw some cites around now and then for us to discuss
anything new in the thread.

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Old November 7th 05, 06:32 PM
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"Paul." > wrote in message
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> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:12:55 GMT, jaybird > said the
> following in rec.autos.driving...
>
>> 2. Hispanics without licenses or insurance (all over the place around
>> here
>> since we're so close to Mexico. They get their cars towed and they get
>> to
>> walk).
>>

>
> Maybe this is a stupid question, but if these hispanics have no license
> or other form of ID, then why are they walking and not being given an
> escort back to Mexico courtesy of the INS (or what ever they call
> themselves these days)?


You know, that's a damn good question. Local cops don't have the authority
or the resources and the INS won't come out and pick them up. Believe me,
we've tried over and over to no avail.

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Old November 8th 05, 02:43 AM
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In article >,
jaybird > wrote:
>
>"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> jaybird > wrote:
>>>
>>>"Matthew Russotto" > wrote in message
...
>>>> In article >,
>>>> jaybird > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>The most courteous are older Black males, but the most rude are younger
>>>>>Black males.
>>>>
>>>> That's because the older ones have been literally beaten down by
>>>> your bretheren.
>>>
>>>Nice trolling attempt, but that aside I think they're just more mature
>>>about
>>>things

>>
>> "Maturity" is often used as a synonym for "willingness to knuckle
>> under". From cops, nearly always so.

>
>No, I meant it literally.


The literal meaning of "maturity" is wide enough to include that sense.

>>>, and many younger black males still have the chip on their shoulder
>>>they've been conditioned to have since birth. Not all, but many. I
>>>stopped
>>>a very nice older black man the other day. He was a retired Army First
>>>Sergeant, we had a very cordial conversation and he went on down the road.
>>>Believe it or not, he had never been beaten and I didn't even beat him
>>>this
>>>time!

>>
>> Naa, he got his beating down in the Army.

>
>I didn't see any evidence of that either.


Sure you did. You just didn't recognize it. He was in the Army;
that's the first thing they do, beat the individuality out of recruits and
replace it with obedience to anyone with the proper markings on their
uniform; they call it Basic Training.
 




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